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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Sep 12, 2016 - 01:21pm PT
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I'd dump the carabiners for spectra soft shackles.Lighter, secure as hell, (at least as secure as a locker)and still detachable.
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
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Sal,
carabiners were for quick check of portaledge before moving on to the Fins and Suspension system. I'll be using 1" flat webbing with 1" cam buckles for the 8 suspension adjustment points.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Sep 12, 2016 - 02:22pm PT
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impressive.
over long hours sitting in these things ive spent lots of time dreaming up design ideas, most of which evaporate at the first sign of reality and/or the skill to actually do anything about it. kudos for rolling up your sleeves and making it happen.
be interested to see your fin/suspension storage ideas. ive always though more dedicated clip loops would be nice, and that those cup holder things would be better as proper zipped pockets accessible from both sides of the fin.
and if you make a fly with a window in it - locate the window about 30cm lower so you can actually see out the damned thing when sitting down.
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 12, 2016 - 03:29pm PT
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ecdh,
Thanks for the comments. I'll see how the fins go this evening. Plans and sketches versus reality is always different.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Sep 12, 2016 - 03:38pm PT
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Keep us posted.
Im usually in a team of 2 in a 2 person BD and the fins are both the nicest and hardest thing about it.
Sitting against the wall a single middle fin is the go (so extra storage on that would be nice) but then sleeping we drop it and put the two outer find up.
With a little jiggerypokery this could be refined a bit i think. It certainly works well enough to deserve it.
You metal heads are alchemists. If youre good on a sewing machine thats a sweet skillset to have.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Sep 12, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
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nice looking welds--
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FTOR
Sport climber
CA
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Sep 12, 2016 - 07:14pm PT
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one observation. its best not to have too tight of fit with your joints. remember you're in an environment that's all dirt, chalk dust and grime. it's a real drag if you can't knock these down easily or if it won't come apart at all. been there, done that. nice work.
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Al Barkamps
Social climber
Red Stick
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Sep 12, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
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+1 for the comment above....
Corner suspension points should be fixed to the corner titanium, like, say, an eye bolt or something clever. I see nothing but problems with that webbing sliding over the corners when unfurling on a windy day. Plus, corners get beat to sh#t.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Sep 12, 2016 - 08:04pm PT
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Why didnt you shoe up at the Stoney BBQ?
Nice art project
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Sep 13, 2016 - 02:26am PT
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I'll be using 1" flat webbing with 1" cam buckles for the 8 suspension adjustment points.
I am in the process of transitioning my ledge trapeze from flat webbing to perlon cord. The thin webbing I am using now tends to get twisted and bunched up in the buckles.
Have you ever seen a British ship of the main with webbing for rigging?
No.
I will use the same 2:1 pulley configuration I am using with the webbing, and use some custom mini-jumars at the ends of the ropes for adjustment.
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 13, 2016 - 10:34am PT
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Got about 70% done with the fins last night. Fin Body made with 1680d Cordura Nylon. The draw string nalgene pouch which can double as a storage pouch made from leftover 210d pack cloth. The back large zippered pocket is made from vinyl netting.
Fly Material comes in tomorrow. Found a rough design online I liked in metric units so I made my own drawing to make at the shop:
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2016 - 08:15am PT
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TWO questions:
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Going to be sewing the fins on this evening. Can anyone tell me what length their portaledge straps are? Or the height from middle of bed to straps/anchor?
Trying to figure out how long my suspensions straps need to be.
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Bungee and frame:
Was thinking of running a bungee through the entire frame but I realized it will not fold up well if I do that. The Pika single ledge I inspected teminated the bungee at the end of the long pole sections and the short cross poles were attached via cord instead of bungee.
What is standard for double portaledges? What approach would be best/easiest when making your own?
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2016 - 11:55am PT
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Ready for the Prow tomorrow:
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
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That looks great! Hope it works for you. Bring tape.
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OlympicMtnBoy
climber
Seattle
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Sep 22, 2016 - 07:28pm PT
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That is sweet! Only took you like a month, my projects take forever!
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 23, 2016 - 08:11am PT
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WOW .... what a pro!
Nice workmanship ....
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PAUL SOUZA
Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
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Sep 23, 2016 - 11:46am PT
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Nice job!
...WOOT!!
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Sep 23, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
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Strong work! Way cool.
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randy88fj62
Trad climber
LA, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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Portaledge worked like a charm. Made a minor mistake as sewed daisy chain loops too high up on the suspension straps causing us to not be able to max adjust angles. We were able to work around it but I'll be relocating the daisy chain loops down lower.
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