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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 31, 2016 - 11:06am PT
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'Nosedive'?
I laugh robustly.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 31, 2016 - 11:15am PT
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Cragar: First time I've ever ventured up your ride route. Pretty neat country up there. I didn't see anyone, except for one dirt-bike rider in one full day.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Aug 31, 2016 - 12:01pm PT
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Hey Fritz! Yeah, that has pretty much been my experience in the EastFork environs. Most folks are hanging in the Stanley zone, albeit more 'impressive' but the EastFork zone is pretty durned bitchin! I'll be in the Stanley/Whitecloud/Yankee zone for LaborDay. BTW, nice pic!! Here is one from above AntsBasin which was one of my all-time favorite loops that is now closed to MTBs.
I'll bet you've been in the spot my pic was taken!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 31, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
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Crager: I haven't been in Ants Basin since I went in there as a 6 year old on a pack trip to Born Lakes. I really didn't do much hiking & no climbing in the White Clouds back in my younger days, since I favored granite in the Sawtooths.
However since 2005, I've been doing 4-wheel drive & day hikes around the fringes of the range. Last year was hiking Washington Basin and enjoying a great view of Castle Peak.
The only major White Cloud peak I ever climbed was the south-side of Croesus Peak, when I was 17 years old, looking for artifacts around the many old mines on it.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Aug 31, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
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Awesome!! My MTB is named after CastlePeak and the frame was built in Ketchum. Thanks for the pics. I climbed the Mountaineers route a couple decades ago on the Perch and I can understand your penchant for the Sawtooth granite! I have yet to not find or see some form of a 'mother of zones' as we call 'em when I visit the Stanley zone. The exposed faulted layers in the Whiteclouds really do it for me.
You mentioned Born lakes...Here is a pic of the upper Born basin taken from the same spot the Ants pic was taken.
The traversing descent to the Born zone on an MTB is as good as it gets! It is the MotherZone of TechnoGnarl-DH!!
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
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Obama is building a 90 foot wall while Trump is in Mexico.
If it would keep Trump out, that would be an Obama action I would wholeheartedly support.
John
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Aug 31, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
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Croesus is a nice looking peak. How's the rock?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 01:54pm PT
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^^^^
Excellent!
John
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 31, 2016 - 01:56pm PT
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Mexico?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 31, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
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I thought he wasn't a politician.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Aug 31, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
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I am not a Trump supporter.
I've taken a look at things again and Trump is running the most technologically advanced political campaign in history from a marketing standpoint. There is a chance he actually might win.
In the last year he has created one of the strongest brands ever built. It is not about a man being a president. It is about a brand that says "F- the System" from the right wing side. He is a crazy individual in a world of crazy individuals.
Here is a great video that shows how close this race really is and how important your vote is:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 31, 2016 - 03:00pm PT
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Spider, what does "strongest brand" mean. If it is public awareness I would agree. However I have read stories reporting that his hotels have suffered. His publicity seems to be counter productive. Alas, we will never know because he will not release his tax returns
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 31, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
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Spider, I think the media is responsible for marketing his brand.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:06pm PT
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.....She's cautious by nature.....
lol
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:12pm PT
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You'd be disingenuous to say that trip to Mexico wasn't a huge success for Trump.
He's getting sh#t done before he gets into office. And Nieto knows he can benefit or lose from this. Nieto chose wisely.
It could be win-win for US/Mexico is they want to 'play ball'. Losers immediately will be South/Central Americas. But then Brazil and Venezuela are doing a good job f*#king themselves.
EDIT: Hitlery doesn't speak off-the-cuff, because she can't do it well. The real, bitchy her comes out. The 'real' Hitlery turns EVERYBODY off. Even people who 'like' her.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:15pm PT
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Neto told Trump they wouldn't pay for the wall, Trump said they didn't discuss it.
Trump lies again.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:19pm PT
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Despite that all the experts have spoken I'm inclined to wait for more than an hour or two to see how it shakes out.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
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It's 'Nieto', Bob, you racist!
The meeting wasn't about the payment of the wall. It was a meeting to discuss where they both could work together. It was a f*#king preliminary meeting to get acquainted, get a feel for where they PRIVATELY stand.
I though it was a good move, not just for politics and the election, but to start a dialogue with a guy you're going to have to get to know well.
Mission accomplished!!!!
EDIT: Despite that all the experts have spoken I'm inclined to wait for more than an hour or two to see how it shakes out.
Trump's immigration speech tonight in Arizona will be fun to watch!!! 5pm PST?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
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The two losers are going into the drug business together? To be logically correct it's "putos".
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 31, 2016 - 04:28pm PT
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Yeah, Trump is the dishonest/phony one in this campaign. Keep telling yourself that.
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