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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:18pm PT
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It's difficult getting air after you've eaten a carton of twinkies...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
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And she didn't plagiarize Melania even once!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:30pm PT
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The U.S. Military, by far. At it's best, the Armed Services are a great example of socialism and meritocracy.
There is signifcant quibbling to be done relative to "meritcracy", but righto.
If only McNamara were still alive to give us true cost/benefit ratios.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
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Michelle's speech was great, especially the line about 140 characters.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
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Here's a little Michelle truth for ya, Craggy....
“That is the story of this country, the story that has brought me to this stage tonight, the story of generations of people who felt the lash of bondage, the shame of servitude, the sting of segregation, but who kept on striving and hoping and doing what needed to be done so that today I wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves,” she said. “And I watch my daughters, two beautiful, intelligent, black young women playing with their dogs on the White House lawn. And because of Hillary Clinton, my daughters and all our sons and daughters now take for granted that a woman can be president of the United States.”
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:38pm PT
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The stuportopo Hillary loons are criminals.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:41pm PT
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Medusa looks better as a guy...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:41pm PT
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Here's a little more Michelle truth for ya...
"See, because at that moment I realized that our time in the White House would form the foundation for who they (our daughters) would become and how well we managed this experience could truly make or break them. That is what Barack and I think about every day as we try to guide and protect our girls through the challenges of this unusual life in the spotlight, how we urge them to ignore those who question their father’s citizenship or faith.
How we insist that the hateful language they hear from public figures on TV does not represent the true spirit of this country.
How we explain that when someone is cruel or acts like a bully, you don’t stoop to their level. No, our motto is, when they go low, we go high."
Tell me, Dean, that you wouldn't provide exactly the same advice to your children.
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jstan
climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:43pm PT
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In no special order I can see myself voting for:
1. Barack
2. Hillary
3. Biden
4. Kerry
5. Gore
6. Bernie
7. Collin Powell
8. Eliot Spitzer
9. Warren
10. Jerry Brown
The Democrats have a very deep bench.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:49pm PT
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Not so much the rigging as who's captaining the ship.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 25, 2016 - 09:54pm PT
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Awright, awright....I give up.
No matter how much truth Michelle delivered in that speech...no matter how many inarguable, universal truths it might have contained, you hate Barack Obama. And that's gonna obscure anything and everything. Ah, well.
Sleep well, and safe travels.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:00pm PT
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Oh, crank.....once again, you ARE Obama. Nothing could be further from the truth. But I digress....
UnEmployment is down;
Stock market is up;
Growth is up.
There are still many challenges, but to argue that overall, the situation has not greatly improved over 2008-2009, I.e., when the Great Recession was at its worst, is disingenuous.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:10pm PT
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^^^true. time and exponential population growth has a way of demanding that, right?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:18pm PT
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Consequences? You mean digging us out of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression? The one the last Republican president left?
You mean the one the last Democratic and Republican congresses left? It may or may not have been the worst financial crisis, but it was the biggest employment and output dip. That depth did not, however, differ in any order of magnitude from many of the other postwar recessions. Obama did, however, preside over the weakest postwar recovery, and the reasons are largely on him -- costly, anti-business regulation and counterproductive legislation (e.g. Dodd-Frank and the ACA). This is the longest period in my 65-year lifetime in which the U.S. economy has not sustained a 3% real growth rate.
John
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:22pm PT
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no matter how many inarguable, universal truths it might have contained,
hey, one of those inarguable truths she provided, her last mentioned.
"God Bless America!"
don't think we'll ever hear an orangutan say that..
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 10:29pm PT
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Interesting that Obama is able to determine the way the economy moves.
Could Reagan have done the same?
Looking for evidence that the policies mentioned
had the alleged effects and that Obama instituted them.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jul 26, 2016 - 04:59am PT
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UnEmployment is down;
Stock market is up;
Growth is up.
There are still many challenges, but to argue that overall, the situation has not greatly improved over 2008-2009, I.e., when the Great Recession was at its worst, is disingenuous.
To argue that the situation is improved with a 100% increase in national debt to the tune of $20 Trillion dollars isn't disingenuous, its just plain stoopid.
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Jul 26, 2016 - 07:14am PT
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To argue that the situation is improved with a 100% increase in national debt to the tune of $20 Trillion dollars isn't disingenuous, its just plain stoopid.
+1
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 26, 2016 - 07:21am PT
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explain the consequences of a rising national debt please?
then explain why interest rates are the lowest level over 80 years in the US
and then explain why you vote Republican every election when the House of Representatives is controlled since 2010 by Republicans
and every spending bill, every increase in the debt was and continues to be approved by the Republicans you vote into office
you personally OWN the increase in the debt by voting twice for Bush who doubled the debt and you OWN the debt since 2010 by voting in House Republicans
oh, and guess what else ?
the Republicans YOU vote for are also in control the US Senate and they too have voted for every dollar increase in the debt
but you didn't know any of that, did you bunky?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jul 26, 2016 - 07:39am PT
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This is the longest period in my 65-year lifetime in which the U.S. economy has not sustained a 3% real growth rate.
During Obama's presidency GDP has increased 13%, while the DJIA has increased 124%.
Median household income has fallen.
What percentage of the US population has really benefited from this recovery?
*Edited/clarified for Fritz.
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