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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 21, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
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Moose... can't you see that some of us see things 180 degrees differently than you do.
Go and walk around my middle class neighborhood and talk to my neighbors.
The only poll that matters is the election in November.
Carry on.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
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So, I have to fervently believe in HRC to vote for her?
of course not, wherever did you get that idea?
you don't even have to vote for anybody
probably tens of millions of people who vote for Trump or Clinton purely as a vote against the other one
nothing wrong with that, been going on for over 200 years in America
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:06pm PT
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moosedrool -- "BELIEVE ME, I'VE SEEN IT ALL"
Another absolute made by those who vehemently claim there's no absolutes.
Just give it up.
You people prove every day here how clueless you really are ......
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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But I will vote for her amigo, because drumpf is no way shape or form qualified to be POTUS. How is it possible this jagoff has gotten as far as he did? It simply boggles the mind. How has the GOP fallen so far? Was it Dubya that did it in? The endless wars that grind on and on and on? Or is it the simpleton republican voter that wants to make America great again by building a fukin wall across Mexico and deporting all Muslims based on the actions by a few self-proclaimed jihadis? Perhaps it's the defunding of Planned Parenthood because they sell "baby parts?" Fuk's sake, the GOP is filled to the brim with stupid, and it's nothing but a detriment to the forward progress of this country.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:10pm PT
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I am glad you shared your perspective. You have had experiences most of us have not.
I was not feeling bullied or told how to vote but simply asked, if I chose to, to listen (read) about another's perspective. It's good food for thought.
I'm often intrigued by others who share a significantly different perspective than mine when they discuss (write) in a sensical logical manner without going crazy weird bat sh#t.
Thanks Moose!
Susan
Edit. How has the GOP fallen so far . For whatever reason they fell prey to the fringe ultra red meat eaters. We desperately need a robust two party system and this does not bode well.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:15pm PT
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If you currently enjoy your access to OUR Federal public lands, it would be a very good idea to not vote Republican.
GOP Platform Supports Transferring Western Public Lands To States
The new language in the platform, approved Monday, states:
“Congress shall immediately pass universal legislation providing for a timely and orderly mechanism requiring the federal government to convey certain federally controlled public lands to states. We call upon all national and state leaders and representatives to exert their utmost power and influence to urge the transfer of those lands, identified in the review process, to all willing states for the benefit of the states and the nation as a whole. The residents of state and local communities know best how to protect the land where they work and live.”
http://www.opb.org/news/series/election-2016/republican-platform-public-land-privatization/
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:20pm PT
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I hear ya Moose.
Never, in our lifetimes, has a candidate been so grossly unqualified to become president. He is absolutely awful in so many ways, including his authoritarian tendencies.
Now he says he might not honor nato commitments, an organization that has largely been responsible for peace in the West for over 60 years.
Absolutely reckless and ignorant.
John m wrote:
Don't nuke it, just start a new thread and link it to the old one.
Interesting idea!
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
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I agree moose. But sadly i think the US needs to go thru this. Neither choice is good. Its a choice between bad change and bad inertia.
I doubt either will get a second term, so play the long game.
I hate trump and what he stands for which is pure reactionary crowd revelling, hes a cargo cult big man whose followers suffer from stockholm syndrome. Hes not a hitler hes a gang leader.
But like bad leaders he may just be the innoculation the US needs against further presidential idiocy, whereas clinton is obviously a further creeping spread of an existing disease.
Its a gamble, but i think the people of the US will better recover from trump than from clinton, stronger rather than more strung out.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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Drill, baby, drill. It's like the GOP is the dark side of the force. They're a parody of evil. Gays=bad. Blacks=bad. Muslims=bad. Mexicans=bad. Women? Well, they should be at home tending the children and cooking the meals while the men are out,uh, swinging golf clubs and sending other people's kids off to war to secure those natural resources that Americans deserve because, well, they're americans..
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:29pm PT
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Trump= arch enemy of the usual suspects; haters all.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:37pm PT
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moose has seen more hardship than you ever have, faroukbitch.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:37pm PT
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...sadly i think the US needs to go thru this... may just be the innoculation the US needs...
you mean like the atom bombs dropped on H and N? perhaps they innoculated the U.S. and the world against worse?
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But I will vote for her amigo, because drumpf is no way shape or form qualified to be POTUS. How is it possible this jagoff has gotten as far as he did? It simply boggles the mind. How has the GOP fallen so far? Was it Dubya that did it in? The endless wars that grind on and on and on? Or is it the simpleton republican voter that wants to make America great again by building a fukin wall across Mexico and deporting all Muslims based on the actions by a few self-proclaimed jihadis? Perhaps it's the defunding of Planned Parenthood because they sell "baby parts?" Fuk's sake, the GOP is filled to the brim with stupid, and it's nothing but a detriment to the forward progress of this country.
Right on. :)
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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I rant well, and farouk is still a fukin bitch.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:47pm PT
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From what I've occasionally read, Rick Sumner has always struck me as smart and thoughtful, not glib or flip nor retrogressive. So it blows me away that he is a Trump supporter. (Politics makes strange bedfellows?)
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
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really? you have not been paying attention to Rick's political posts then
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:50pm PT
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oh yeah, a true con. suck this, suck that. larry craig is waiting for you in a bathroom stall, with dennis hastert wanting seconds. bitch.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
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Well, in my defense, I haven't studied him.
(Perhaps I'm biased by his pioneering FAs?)
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:54pm PT
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hey farouk, medusa needs his ball sack shaved. accommodate him please.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Jul 21, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
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don't mistake me with your mother. I know we're both hairy, but her hair is longer.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 21, 2016 - 04:05pm PT
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Trust me, the Trump movement is one of those movements that convert democracies into regimes.
Uh, you clearly never studied the constitution or how our government works. Of course,
it would be OK if Bernie brought about regime change, right? Democracy is a bitch when
it doesn't go yer way.
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