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zBrown
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 12, 2016 - 10:30am PT
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The big controversy in Baja is whether to ban the practice.
The last one in the Monumental bullring in central Barcelona was September 25, 2011.
Has anyone asked for the opinions of any of the presidential candidates or any of the SuperiorTopians yet (I did not check the ST).
Would you approve if the audience just threw tomatoes at the bulls and then took them through a car wash?
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 12, 2016 - 11:49am PT
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I guess I'll play. I like BS.
"THE BULL IS LOOSE!"
The event had a madcap moment when tournament mascot, "Titleist" the bull, got loose from his tether near the 16th green and roamed around the golf course for 20 minutes.
"Apparently he got stung by a wasp right on the nose," said spectator Mike Adams. "He was fine and then all of a sudden he rubbed his nose on the ground and on the tree where he's tied and then he rolled around on the ground snorting. He is normally totally mild-mannered and tame, but he just got agitated when he got stung."
Scoring official Bobby Wilson saw the whole thing unfold. "One minute Titleist was fine and the next he was haulin' ass down the fairway dragging his tethering rope behind him."
Chase Duncan - appropriately named for this misadventure - a sophomore finance major from N.C. State, met Titleist up close and personal.
"I was lining up a nine-inch putt for par on 17 and my playing partner, Mark Silvers from South Carolina, said 'Holy shit!' I looked up and it's running over the hill, about a hundred yards away from us and closing fast.
"So we start walking slowly in the opposite direction, but the bull made eye contact with me. I just saw the movie 'Jackass Number 2' where Johnny Knoxville gets knocked into next week by a bull and here I am with no rodeo clown or gate to jump over. All I remember next was thinking about those massive horns, so I bolted," he explains in between laughs.
"Thankfully the bull slowed down and turned away into the woods. Now I still have a nine-inch putt and I'm still petrified. I never shook over a nine-inch putt like that in my life," he said with a grin.
http://news.cybergolf.com/golf_news/knights_joust_noles_chop_bull_romps_at_hootie_at_bulls_bay
This has been a sort of recurring joke out at my dad's old country club, because often several bulls graze along one of the fence-lines on the back nine.
Johnny Knoxville's last cigarette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucKLiVN54mk
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:23pm PT
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cintune
climber
Colorado School of Mimes
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Apr 12, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 12, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
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The bullfight bulls have it better than cattle raised to eat. By a long shot.
They're not crammed together in too-small lots, dragged around by tractors when they're lame, beaten with truncheons and cattle prods, have their horns sawed off, have to live standing and sleeping in their own sh#t, and marched in a line to what they must know is their execution.
Instead, bullfight bulls are pretty much left alone their whole lives. Until the Big Day, they live as free-range cattle with minimal human contact.
And bullfight bulls get to keep their balls.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2016 - 01:22pm PT
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A guy from my neighborhood became a matador. I believe he's on the east coast now. I'm gonna have to track him down for his thoughts.
His brother was a golfer and the fighter was actually an accomplished body surfer also. Go figure.
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thirsty
climber
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Apr 12, 2016 - 06:22pm PT
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I have attended in Mexico. Sort of sad that people have found these sort of death spectacles so entertaining for so many thousands of years. The saddest part is the beginning when the assistants injure the bull so it can't lift its head anymore. (They aren't just pricking it to make it mad.) It is a relief when the matador finally kills it. Much sadder though is people willing to save a few bucks on meat and eggs by buying from producers who keep their animals confined their whole lives.
The acrobatic bull leaping from Minoan Crete is impressive.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 12, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
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Cintune! The Crete bull jumper frescos are fantastic!
Otherwise, up here in Idaho, Rodeo bull-riding gives the bulls a chance to get even with the cowboys again & again.
I love this photo from the Caldwell Idaho Rodeo, two years ago.
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EP
Trad climber
Way Out There
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Apr 12, 2016 - 07:02pm PT
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I attended two bullfights at the age of 17; the first was in Tijuana with the senior Spanish class and the second in Pamplona at th Running of the Bulls just two months later.
I don't remember the it one much, but after a week in Pamplona all alone I scored a ticket and went in on the last day. I was caught up in the hysterics of the spectacle and rose to my feet in excitement many times to shout "Ole! " with the crowd.
I loved it, but have never been back to a bullfight.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 12, 2016 - 07:26pm PT
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Pocoloco1, thanks for the link.
Bull fighting is one of several cultural practices that many are not familiar with in the U.S. and that our culture does not practice or always understand.
James A. Michener's book, "Mexico", gave me a good understanding of the once very popular sport of bull fighting. Today the sport is like many other cultural practices that are not accepted because of the changing times.
So be it, but it's good to understand the origins and remember the culture it came from.
edit: not about bull fighting but about early Mexico and the impact Spain had. "The Journey of the Flame" by Walter Nordhoff, good read.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Apr 12, 2016 - 09:10pm PT
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I was entertained in the Tijuana Bullring in the early 90s.
Carlos Santana, "Regresa a Casa" show.
Bullfighting, or any fighting to the death for entertainment is uncivilized.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2016 - 09:21pm PT
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Should not the matadores be compelled to ride the bull before picadoring a fight with one?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 12, 2016 - 09:28pm PT
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All the while thinking, "Those estoopido Cretins."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 12, 2016 - 09:56pm PT
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I was an aficionado from an early age, probably due to my grandfather's
connection to the St Patrick's Battalion in the Mexican-American War.
I worshipped El Cordobés.
I ran with the toros in Guadalupe, Spain, but it was not like the Pamplona
cluster. It was just me and a gachupine and one toro. Holy moly, that was
some kind of intense! El bravo almost got us both. Luckily we had better
traction on the cobblestones.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2016 - 07:52am PT
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^My friend Lyle gave El C a nod in the classic surf film Island Magic.
I don't recall whether they actually met.
I don't think he'll mind if I cut the segment out and put it on the ytube.
Stay tubed.
70+ year old statin scarfing, da-brimmed, SUPeeing hodad still active in the waterworld
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 13, 2016 - 08:15am PT
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Haven't read thread, rooting for the bull
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Apr 15, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
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Reilly, just finishing reading a super book called The Journey of the Flame by Walter Nordhoff. Really liked this book first published in 1933 and all about Baja Ca its desert plants, marine life, mule psychology, codes of honor,Mexican equestrian ability, customs and more. Enjoy, lynnie
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Apr 15, 2016 - 08:27pm PT
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His brother was a golfer and the fighter was actually an accomplished body surfer also. All somewhat complimentary pursuits . . . Throw in some autoracing, bullfighting and mountaineering, too.
I am bullfighting existence in general . . . So much happening on the Earth.
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