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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Mar 28, 2016 - 08:32am PT
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Here's an interesting article.http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/are-foreign-recruits-causing-idealogical-rifts-in-isis
No doubt that ISIS are some sick phucks, but what situation was created to cultivate such a terrorist group. And then we destroy ISIS, what then? What about the 10 million refugees that have left to avoid the violence. What do they look forward to coming home to. The whole situation is phucked. We created this monster through our foreign policy and oil extraction whether you believe or not, now we have to deal with it.
It easy to say they "just hate us" if you're willing to be lazy and pull the trigger. We'll all do what we have to do to protect our own. I get that. But when innocence is sacrificed in greater numbers to kill of few phuck heads, then they won already.
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 28, 2016 - 08:53am PT
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Many of our policies the past several decades, notably the disastrous Iraq War, have no doubt exacerbated many bad situations, but Steve, you ignore the fact that there were generations of conflict that preceded our relatively recent entry into the area. Your analysis greatly oversimplifies things, ignoring quite a bit of history.
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STEEVEE
Social climber
HUMBOLDT, CA
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Mar 28, 2016 - 09:18am PT
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I agree. The tribal culture of the Middle East is complex and thousands of years old. That's exactly my point. We should have never have phucked around in there to begin with. We should have let them evolve internally and organically. But too late for that now.
By the way, our recent involvement in the Middle East is just an adoption of imperialism that's been around for centuries. We just put a pretty face on it and call it "Democracy" and install our friendly leaders through coups or military and financial support. And if they get out of control, we'll just invade them or assassinate them https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US/Foreign_Assassinations_since_1945
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 28, 2016 - 09:23am PT
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If only we had a strong president like the hairdo to bomb everything into dust, all our problems would be solved.
What's that they say about "We can defeat an army much easier than we can defeat an idea."?
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2016 - 10:40am PT
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Chanting Allah-Hoo-Ak-Bar repeatedly while shooting guns in the desert is a damn good way to get detained.
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 30, 2016 - 12:13pm PT
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^^^Lol.
And try doing that if you're black...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Mar 30, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
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Whereas toting an AR15 into a Starbucks, wearing a cowboy hat and saying Godbless is a-ok.
Got yer point, but in Ca. that would not be too kosher, illegal in fact. Maybe Texas, or open-carry States that is not unusual.
But, shooting guns in the desert is legal, even in Ca.! So is chanting Allahu Akbar as you fire. It's legal.
...just unusual.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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ISIS is not a threat in America. Christians are the real threat in America.
"World history is rife with instances of cruelty and barbarism at the hands of Christians, but since this is America it is one of those subjects few are willing to ever mention. Sadly, there is still an inordinate amount of cruelty and barbarism attributable to Christians who also happen to be exclusively American Republicans.
"Even though they are not beheading or burning their victims at the stake, they are causing undue pain and suffering to other Americans, primarily women. It is all an integral part of their cherished religious liberty and as is nearly always the case it is women taking the brunt of the inhumane cruelty....."
Full article here:
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/01/cruel-texas-republicans-force-women-deliver-dead-babies.html
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2016 - 10:03am PT
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^^^Yep.....a bunch of crankloons.
Has the whole world gone crazy?
Am I the only one who gives a sh#t about the rules?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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No, thankfully you're not.
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 7, 2016 - 08:24am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 16, 2016 - 05:27pm PT
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The Four Horsemen are coming for Daesh in Mosul.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 16, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
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Got a strong feeling that following the election, no matter who wins and thanks to the rabble-rouser, there will be some serious home grown terrorist activity from the radicals on both sides. And probably all rom "patriotic" Americans, not Muslims. There's nothing more dangerous or irrational than a true believer.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 16, 2016 - 09:11pm PT
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There's nothing more dangerous or irrational than a true believer...
unless it's a non-belever, which is to say a member of the great unwashed who do more harm through their lack of conviction in anything other than abject mediocrity.
But to return to the subject at hand I must say I am pleasantly surprised to see the resolve being exhibited by the Iraqis. There may be grounds for hope although the Sunni/Shiite divide is as deep as ever and will likely last many generations.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Oct 16, 2016 - 09:11pm PT
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I Think you're right. It appears the radical militant left has already picked up where they left off after assaulting people at Trump rallies.
'Nazi Republicans get out': GOP headquarters in NC town firebombed
You are dumber than I thought. It was teaparty operatives.
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