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nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2016 - 11:33am PT
I feel fat. I look fat. Well... I am. And outta shape.


Soo.... last few times around this challenged motivated (obviously didn't stick).

$10 a pound. Goal is ten lbs. Don't make it - cough up for each pound.

We just have to start/end before SushiFest because... well... it's SushiFest.


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nature
Aya
labrat
SC seagoat
Sewellymon
clarkolator
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
Sure Dad, I'll trade you.

You gave me these f*#ked up genes anyway. WTF? Over.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
I'm beyond fat and out of shape. Too much beer and too may pretzels. I'm in. But who gets the money when I fail?
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
Also, this means I need to weigh in, right? which means I need to actually acknowledge how slobby I am? On second thought.....
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:18pm PT
I'd be into this for a training challenge. I don't need to drop pounds so much as I need to be consistently active.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:21pm PT
Hey HDDJ, we should find some regular schedule to meet up and get some exercise. We're only 45 minutes apart. I'm getting hitched this summer and want to look less, um, paunchy for it.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
Sure dude. Even just someone to message with who will keep me honest.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
well in the past the whole point was to aim at losing 10 lbs. Not sure how else to work it otherwise.

And I need both. Or new genes and jeans.

But yeah, the motivation part... whatever works, right?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:37pm PT
didn't Fish win the last one of these...?

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/312043/SuperTaco-Members-Place-your-bets-for-the-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=969475

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/869387/SuperBlast-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/757673/January-2009-Diet-Challenge-OT

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/679876/Autumn-08-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/514348/Bigwall-Hippy-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/513242/January-08-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/445724/Diet-Challenge-Autumn-Special-Event

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/383665/Another-Diet-Challenge-How-can-this-be

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/312043/SuperTaco-Members-Place-your-bets-for-the-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/304145/Diet-Challenge-07

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/302249/I-cannot-believe-Im-considering-the-Diet-Challenge

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/179664/Diet-Challenge-update

amazingly, probably over 50% of the STForum posting members weren't born when the first thread went up...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 12:40pm PT
OK we start Sunday March 6th - gives us two nights to indulge and blimp up.

Weigh out is no later than 23:59 April 5th.

If you lose 10 pounds or more you split the pile of cash (if there is any) with the other winners/losers.

Otherwise you cough up $10 per pound that you don't lose up to the 10 pound target.

There's no penalty for blimping up even bigger you just cough up a Benjamin and hide in your hole.



I've got a good uphill battle. Last times around I also had muscle mass so it was straight blubber loss. This time I'm sure I'll add five pounds in muscle which means 15 pounds of whale insulation to lose.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
Fish I think won all of them. I won in the first one just barely.

Oh and thanks for that first link Ed.

The side bets! That made it even more fun.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:43pm PT
I'm in!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
Medium Sooze wrote:
Commit to losing 10 pounds in 1 month
Weigh-in is anytime on Friday, September 19th
Weigh-in are on the honor system or feel free to post
2 week weigh-in will be Friday, October 3rd
Lose at least 4 pounds by 2 week weigh-in or pay $10 penalty
Weigh-out will be any time on Sunday, October 19th
For every 1 pound you DO NOT LOSE you pay $10 to the pool
Winners split the Pool
No extreme dieting allowed
Sabotage is legal


Locker - no doubt but that hasn't been an issue in the past. Should we add no gastric bypasses to the rules?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 4, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
In.
(Which Sushi Fest) ;)


Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
Yeah, Dad. Thanks. I hear this often. And you wonder why I cut myself.

Lynne mentioned in one of those threads that we should share how we are doing this. So the above info from Locker/Dad is excellent.

I'm at about 175lbs - heaviest I've ever been. So with a target of 165lbs It'll still men I'm 6 lbs over where I started the very first challenge 159->149. But I also use to, um, climb. back. then. when?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:10pm PT
Maybe supertopo peer pressure will help? I will think about it, would be great to cut some weight for performance on rock.

The training manual suggests cutting weight in power phase. I should start it now. Link power and weight loss, train hard March, send the gnar in April...will it be acceptable to bitch about overeating in this thread?

I am about 173 lbs or so at 6'2 (will check tonight). My best performances on rock were when I dropped weight to just under 165 (FFA the Emperor). BUT I feel like I gained strength since than, but also added pounds. In the fall I sent a redpointed a few cool 5.12- climbs and was very close to sending a solid 12 (which was soft IMO). It is not grade chasing, but grades let me know if I am improving or what. If I lose the pounds, I may do my best (maybe will be able to keep up with some of my stronger friends).
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:13pm PT
My seasonal girlfriend doesn't complain about the head size brah.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
Maybe supertopo peer pressure will help?

and yeah, anything goes. Especially the sabotage part.


mmmmm..... EAT UP BLIMPIES!

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
Cosmic Crackwoman :)
Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
After a 6 month Yosemite/work season I returned to the gym. I weighed in at 199 pounds in mid November, and weighed in at 184 pounds yesterday. Gained 5 pounds or so of muscle and got a little toned at the gym, but lost 20 pounds or so at the dinner table. The gym was easy compared to the dinner table, and the gym kicks my ass.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:22pm PT

On our way to send the gnar.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
This could happen:


mmmm..... training food

In a galaxy far far away....

rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 01:41pm PT
I went from 194 Wednesday to 182 Thursday....that stuff they give you for the colonoscopy really does the trick. We will see how long it stays off.
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 02:22pm PT
Diet Challenge???? Humm, it's been awhile. I don't think I've got 10 to lose but I definitely have 10 I could shift (fat to muscle would be swell).

Crappy internet connection (in Potrero), multi page views are nearly impossible. When's the projected start date?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
Sunday is the projected start date. But with only three committed we could hold off on starting the blubber loss.
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Mar 4, 2016 - 03:31pm PT
I went on the Flu diet. Basically you are so sick you don't eat anything for like a week. Works great.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 03:42pm PT
geeze you porkers...get a clue...

it's the honor system and it has to do with the change of your weight, IF you are embarrassed to admit a weight at the weigh in, just knock of a pound or ten or twenty... then loose ten from that...

you're golden...

we trust you.
Prod

Trad climber
Mar 4, 2016 - 04:00pm PT
I'm anywhere from 1 pound to 6 pounds from my goal weight. Been that way for about a year.

I'd do a 5# weight challenge.... I'm sort of more with The Sooze, I'd rather change fat out for muscle.

Cheers and good luck you fat bastards!

Prod.
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 04:19pm PT
Prod, if you could pay $50 to lose that last 5 pounds would you do it? If the answer is yes, do the challenge. You may not be in the winners pool but you'll hit your goal weight in 4 weeks.

Also, past challenges have surprised many...losing more than they thought they could and often kick starting a new baseline weight/lifestyle.

Ed, you're right about Mussy. He wins every challenge... the man will not lose a challenge.

I'm a possible maybe but only if the challenge kicks out a week. Otherwise no scale. Seriously don't hold weigh ins for me, I may be only a few pounds up after my trip. Wayyyy less cervesa and food this year sans Dreamy Chris.

Nature, I recommend the midpoint weighin & penalty. You slack....you pay.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 05:49pm PT
when can you get to a scale sooze?

I'm fine with pushing it back a week. maybe more Tubbo's will join up.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
best line of the night so far is kev's response to my statement - "i'm out of shape"

"No, round is a shape"
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Mar 4, 2016 - 07:41pm PT
OMG, 3rd time typing this. My mexican internet keeps dropping.

I'll be back to my scale on Friday next week. But I may not be in once I get back, if there is any justice I won't be all super tubby from a few weeks of rice and beans but who knows. When I left I had a solid 5 that I'd love to say goodbye to, so it's possible.

Don't hold the DC for me, but if you do.... I'm a possible maybe. Plus when I get back I immediately loop through Phoenix for a few days. That always adds a few pounds.

Nature - remember you bringing your scale to weigh out in Vegas? Hahhahhha
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 4, 2016 - 08:32pm PT
I worked all day and this is beginning to sound complicated, but I want to lose 5# by the end of the month. Want to be in good shape before I get to TPR instead of getting in shape there. Can I participate? Cheers to all who care about where they are headed and thanks Nature!
MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Mar 4, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
I have lost 10 pounds jugging, cleaning and new-routing.

I alway have said, you don't need to diet or train if you are addicted to climbing...
clarkolator

climber
Mar 4, 2016 - 09:10pm PT
In. And hey Roger Brown from Oceano, whoever you are, I started at 199 and am now at 183. I shallenje u chu a djuel!
Lurkingtard

climber
Mar 5, 2016 - 12:07am PT
I have lost 10 pounds Pre-spraying, spraying, and post spraying about all my new 2/10 routes I've been bolting up.




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Oh and I pooped.











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Roger Brown

climber
Oceano, California
Mar 5, 2016 - 07:05am PT
Clarkolator,
That 184 was gym floor weight. It's 181 out of the shower. I am stopping at 180, any more and I would have to start losing muscle. I'm not in, just spraying:-)
clarkolator

climber
Mar 5, 2016 - 09:29am PT
Wow, nice work Roger Brown. That level of lean is hard to do.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2016 - 09:33am PT
Nature - remember you bringing your scale to weigh out in Vegas? Hahhahhha

yup. and i still have that scale. it's my lucky scale apparently.

That was the same night I had four of a kind aces against the crack dealer.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 5, 2016 - 09:59am PT
Ok. Not going into details but suffice it to say I need to lose 10 pounds (and more)
It starts tomorrow...right!!??
Off to the races.


Susan
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Mar 5, 2016 - 02:53pm PT
I'll be with you guys in spirit and if you don't mind my lurking. I'm too small (height) to drop 10 but the winter doldrums, working too much and getting lazy have left me with an extra 5 or so I'd love to see gone. Started by stopping obvious sugar intake ( a week now) except for some red wine. If I restrict my diet (type of food too much) I become traumatized!! For me better to reduce portions and move more. It'll help that daylight savings hits next weekend. I get really affected by darkness at 5:00 pm and always feel like I'm in hibernation mode that time of the year.

A little off subject but do any of you use a standing desk? Thoughts? Thinking about getting one since my work is in an office and I have to be at computer and on phone a lot.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 5, 2016 - 06:27pm PT
Appreciate your post crusher.
WBraun

climber
Mar 5, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
A little off subject but do any of you use a standing desk?

The person in resource management office uses one as well as the secretary in the YOSAR office including the Valley medical clinc.

They really like them because the desk adjusts to sit or stand very quick.

You stand or sit according to your desire at any time or circumstance .....
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 5, 2016 - 06:47pm PT
10 is just too much for me to shed in a month. (Height here, too--that's 8% of my body weight.)

But the snow is melting here and I've got my eye on a whole lot of routes this summer.

I would be willing to play WITH NO CHANCE OF WINNING, but would pony up $10 for each pound less than 5 lost.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2016 - 06:50pm PT
That seems reasonable.

My scale is angry at me.

Sooze is a maybe and a week out.

Thoughts on starting tomorrow? I'm leaning for tomorrow.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 5, 2016 - 07:27pm PT
Lemme know, so I know if I have to blow out now or I have wiggle room!

Susan
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 5, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
If we don't start tomorrow that means I just ate all those carbs for nothing... and I was really looking forward to the apple cake and maple ice cream :/
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 5, 2016 - 07:59pm PT
I'm in but it's too embarrassing to provide details. I've a new screen
saver of the Matterhorn but I'm afraid the North Face isn't going to be
sullied by my presence this year. I am determined to get the little lady
up the Breithorn, though. LOL The Mittellegi Ridge might be within my grasp.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Mar 5, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
Jus go do Excalibur, you'll loose 10# ;)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 5, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
F*#k man, more than the 174 I thought I was. But my goal is 164 still. I am starting NOW.


JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 6, 2016 - 01:38am PT
I'm in, though 10 is maybe not necessary. Good to have a project though - too much time sitting in trucks and planes for the past 3 weeks. No scale available until Tues morning, which is a bummer as I've just come back home (India) and start shedding pounds as soon as I hit the ground here.
-John
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 6, 2016 - 06:04am PT
You lucky guys/gals. I couldn't put on weight if I was locked up in a pizzeria for a month with nothing to do but eat.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 6, 2016 - 06:33am PT
Morning weigh-in complete. We going for it today? I'm starting! If it means a reset next week I'll just eat a few tubs of frosting or something.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 6, 2016 - 06:56am PT

One BMI search and now I'm on the liposuction intervention database.


Dieting?
Screw that.

Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 6, 2016 - 06:59am PT
You're all fat and old. Except Donini who is whip-tough and still under 18.



nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2016 - 07:07am PT
Ok let's do this

Let the blubber begin to roll off
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 6, 2016 - 08:15am PT
I already did 7.13 miles this morning in a reprieve between storms.
It was a run/hike/shuffle kind of thing. I know Goretex is supposed to be breathable but I had some sauna moments...oh boy two birds with one stone.

Let's. Do. This.

Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2016 - 08:42am PT
I'm weighed in and it's not a pretty sight. my goal is 12lbs.

With mixed success i've used an app called Loseit.

we're going fishing and it's a good hike in and especially out.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 6, 2016 - 09:46am PT

My name is Jon and I'm a foodie, I mean fatty.

At my current weight I feel like I could twist and stack multiple sport climbers into creative shapes. In this I am a complete hypocrite as I aspire to climb hard steep stuff in a much lighter version of myself. ;)

Good luck all with the challenge!
clarkolator

climber
Mar 6, 2016 - 09:49am PT
Yikes! Good thing we're doing this, my 183 became 189.6 while I wasn't looking.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 6, 2016 - 11:23am PT
Okay so I found out when I was cleaning the bathroom that a corner of the scale was on the bathmat, screwing up the measurement. Gained 4.4 pounds just like that.

Which means I'm in for the whole 10!
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 6, 2016 - 04:27pm PT
Weighed in. Absolutely the fattest by 15lbs that I've ever been in my life. Hyperextended my knee loading the car to go fishing (WHO DOES THAT?) off to a great start!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 6, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
It's Sunday and I took me mum for pizza, Mittellegi be damned.
Gonna take it to the house tomorrow!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2016 - 05:41pm PT
according to my iphone I burned 3K calories and ate half that. If we caught fish....

G&T's have half the calories as a good beer.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 6, 2016 - 06:40pm PT
so who's on the tapeworm?

I know a dood, if'n your looking to get serious on the slim-train.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 6, 2016 - 07:25pm PT
I'm still in. 194 start.
Edit
Still the same after a 9 mile walk with the dogs this afternoon ;-(
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 6, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
Let's do this folks. Make it super easy on me. We all drop #10 and well...

and not to be a lazy f-... all side bets start soon.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 6, 2016 - 07:53pm PT
10? Which cheek?
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 6, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
Start - 78kg (scale A , will not be in a single place for the coming month, variation on measurement expected...)
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
Mar 7, 2016 - 05:07am PT
See what I just wrote on the "Oatmeal" thread.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 7, 2016 - 05:53am PT
hey there say, steveA ... wow, say, i did see that...

here you go:





*just saw the other greyhound and though it was funny, :))
Tom Patterson

Trad climber
Seattle
Mar 7, 2016 - 06:55am PT
Good luck, everyone! For a pretty sweet and inspirational lift, take 6 minutes to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0qYRWQpZI
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:05am PT
Down a pound from yesterday's (correct) weigh in, due to reduced volume in ye olde intestinal tract, I'm sure.

Planning some stationary exercise on the elliptical this morning to rev up the metabolism then a snowshoe with my mom later on.

Also: got some oatmeal on the stove. Thanks for the info Steve
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2016 - 08:46am PT
Doing the same on the oatmeal front. It's also good for the heart and I'm going to check my BP in a few.

According to map my run we did about a four mile hike yesterday. it's pretty steep for a mile and we spent a good hour and a half fly fishing. MMR says I burned almost 2000 calories. Does that seem right?

The Valmont bike park is not very far away. It's a terrain course and looks like fun.

Good job everyone! We got this.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 7, 2016 - 09:09am PT
"The number of calories burned hiking depends in part on your body weight. In general, a 160-lb person burns between 430 and 440 calories per hour of hiking. A 200-lb person burns approximately 550 calories per hour of hiking. The more you weigh, the more calories you burn in an hour of hiking."

In general on "terrain", I expect to cover between 3 to 5 mph.
2000 calories for a 4 mile hike... seems like a lot.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 7, 2016 - 09:16am PT
2000 calories for a 4 mile hike... seems like a lot.

Not if yer carrying drones, batteries, sushi knives, and the hopes of a generation.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2016 - 09:48am PT
Actually, I was carrying a salad and a tenkara rod.

Though the hopes of a generation is - especially this one - is crushing weight.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 7, 2016 - 09:56am PT
Well I did the exact same hike, and my phone said I burned 400 calories. Seems much more reasonable to me. i'm down 2.8 lb since yesterday - I guess the pre-weigh-in pigout worked :)
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 7, 2016 - 09:58am PT
I'm in too. Want to be below 180 lbs for IC in April. Weighed myself yesterday

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2016 - 10:12am PT
OK here's the list I think and weights for those willing to admit it (not a requirement).

nature - 181.5 start. Target: 169.5 and then onto 165.
Aya
labrat - 194 start
SC seagoat
Sewellymon - 222
clarkolator
skcreidc - 188 start
Pewf - 124.4
JMC
Vitaliy M. - 178.9



any corrections?

Weigh out is by 23:59 April 5th.

I think we'll skip the half way paint penalty as I have faith in all of you. Give it a few more days before side bets.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 7, 2016 - 10:15am PT
I'm away from a scale for a few days. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

Susan
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 7, 2016 - 10:15am PT
You can add my start weight (124.4) to keep me honest.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 7, 2016 - 11:44am PT
You can add mine as 178.9 :(

Will need support to not overeat in the evenings. Goal is to not real food (vegetables only) after 7pm, aside from days when I finish the workouts late after work.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2016 - 11:46am PT
Will need support to not overeat in the evenings.

ok noted! I'm usually pretty good about not eating snacks a lot in the evenings. My problem is I like Beer.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 7, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
I found the scale in a closet, after coming out with it, I stood upon it and got an even 200. I then decided to take off my size 13 tennies and it reads 198. At 5'10" I must be marbled like a tri-tip. Damn.

So 198 and rabbit food after dinner for snacks. See how long that lasts.


Last month at new area.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
Mar 7, 2016 - 12:40pm PT
I'd be in, but I'm too lazy to walk over and weigh in.

It's enough that I have all you featherweights beat by a mile. :-)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
So if I do manage to drop the 10 (fantasy-land), does that mean I get to wear more gear? Because I'm already carrying an El Cap rack up 30' climbs.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:16pm PT
Feeling like my energy is down today. Had a salad with no dressing but scallops for protein source. And a full tomato. Divided that into two portions and supplemented with coffee to avoid snacking. Also just had my carboloaded lunch of 130 calorie pack of Oatmeal with 4 scallops with chai/some milk. Hope this wave of energy will carry me to the gym tonight, so that I can do an hour of light cardio and Yoga. Will be posting tonight about the post workout meal with intentions to keep the peer pressure high and avoid snacking on kind bars. If you encounter me in the bitch mode at some time during the next month, please don't take it personally. ;)

PS: Burchy didn't join yet?!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
You can listen to this podcast fatass! (actually useful stuff for anyone losing weight - came out today in coincidence with the challenge)
https://www.trainingbeta.com/media/weight-loss-climbers/?portfolioID=3838

And join me at Yoga tonight ;)
haha

and I did go on a 40 minute walk for lunch today.

#sprayhardburnfat
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:31pm PT
#donttellthewarbler
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:03pm PT
I ate three broiled scallops, and then soup of two napa cabbage leaves in broth with ginger garlic and white pepper. was going to have cedar planked salmon and spinach but managed to lose the sack of spinach. you all need to try broth with ginger garlic and white pepper. it's the shizzzzzzzzz.

tried to go to the gym... managed to walk at 15% incline at 3mph for half an hour but any faster made my stupid hyperextended knee hurt. fale. but it's gotta be better than sitting on the couch, drinking whisky, eating chips and ice cream I guess. cantwait for daylight savings so i can do stuff outdoors after work!

my mom made thia challenge a little sweeter with her own incentive, so its gonna happen.....
clarkolator

climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:09pm PT
I'm still in. Start weight is 189.6.

Today was salami, tri-tip, nuts, and chard; did weight circuits in the morning and enduro laps the gym in pm.

Thanks for the motivation, all!

PS what's ginger garlic? You mean ginger, and garlic?
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:32pm PT
Old family friend in town. Got dragged to pizza place.

Ordered a salad: good job, Pewf!
With blue cheese dressing: ehhh not so hot
Drank beer: Pewf has no willpower

Aside from that episode, really noticing the effects of reducing grains and sugar. Low mental energy, but I felt okay physically. Snowshoeing got postponed because of some work-ish stuff, so I did extra indoor aerobic + situps, pullups, pushups

JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
day 2, holding at 78kg. I haven't crapped in 2 days though, so I've got that going for me.
In keeping with the units of the challenge, that's 172 pounds.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 7, 2016 - 08:51pm PT
ginger and garlic
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2016 - 09:11pm PT
nature - 181.5 start. Target: 169.5 and then onto 165.
Aya
labrat - 194 start
SC seagoat
Sewellymon - 222 start
clarkolator - 189.6 start
skcreidc - 188 start
Pewf - 124.4 start
JMC - 172 start
Vitaliy M. - 178.9


Support only participant(s):
fivethirty - 166
Burch - 227 forecast
locker - 72 and holding (don't blow away Dad!)
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 7, 2016 - 09:16pm PT
^ Cracked me up!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 8, 2016 - 09:12am PT
Oh boy. I didn't know I had to make THE number public!!!
It's gonna have to be: "Trust Me" it's "yyyyuge"....at least to me.

Anyway...I did want to report a good launch. Due to rain I haven't been outside riding but I've gotten some good distances in wth running/hiking/spinning. It's paying off...1.1 since Sunday. I know it always starts out strong, butt least it's motivating.

I head out to Moab next week and that should also ramp up the activity levels.

Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2016 - 10:25am PT
Susan - you don't have to make the number public.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 8, 2016 - 12:58pm PT
Woooop down 3.6 since sunday... pure bloat but motivating. I just did cold laser therapy on my hyperextended knee and.... it seems to have made it worse.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 8, 2016 - 01:08pm PT
Hang in there...
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 8, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
Trying to drop pounds while injured is the worst (because that leaves what, dieting?) I hope your knee feels better soon, Aya.

Down 2.4. I'm sure the other 7.6 are going to be way harder.

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:00pm PT

Who else is looking forward to the dinner?

GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
Isn't a diet kind of like aid?
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
Ok ok, all right. I'd forgotten. It's all about the support. We are supposed to make you feel like you are eating better 'n us. ;-) I'll take pictures and post them up too. Too early for dinner yet tho

And Burchey will be fine. As soon as his wife gives birth, he'll shed those pounds in sympathy and be back to 200# in no time.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
Who else is looking forward to the dinner?

Is that an invite? Looks good!

Susan
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:40pm PT
Is that an invite? Looks good!

Was hoping I will a)make someone gag b) feel good about their life. Hopefully it is c)all of the above.

Yes, welcome to come over to Starbucks and share that with me. Along with a bottle of Zzyquil and a few hypoglycemia induced passive aggressive jokes. Could be super fun, if I don't choke anyone on the way there.

Did I mention I can bring chewing gum and pickles we can eat for snacks?

Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 8, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
cedar planked salmon with mustar dill agave and some wilted spinach. i got home late but hey i think it will be goooood
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 8, 2016 - 06:41pm PT

I threw some cherry tomatoes on it for color.

Susan
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Mar 8, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
Ewwww mushrooms

I stopped eating meat about 10 days ago. That usually jump starts my weight loss attempts.
Been trying to shed the 10 or so pounds I put on after my surgery. It's been like a year... I fail at weight loss.
#fattyforlife
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 8, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
169.8, post-breakfast (oatmeal, of course!). The return to a vegetarian diet always strips the pounds off of me. Oatmeal for breakfast, with some fruit and nuts mixed in, brown sugar and milk. Coffee and yogurt (both good for keeping the pipes clean).
For lunch, rice or roti, some kind of dahl or beans, a cooked vegetable, and some salad. Dinner, much the same as lunch. That, combined with an increase in exercise whenever I'm home, do the trick.
I don't drink much beer anymore, probably because of the limited varieties local to Asia (yes, there is good beer, but not the range of US or Europe). Whisky & water, or if I've recently returned from someplace with good shops, wine.
Chocolate is probably my greatest vice, I will see if I can pare it down to a minimum.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 8, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
Susan. Great call on those cherry tomatoes for color!

We had Kale and onions as a vegetable side, and potatoes and edamame pasta with carrots in spicy Thai peanut sauce.



No oil added, except for what was in the peanuts. I had seconds on the potatoes...

That should make V feel better about his food ;)
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 8, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
Great job everyone (except locker - don't sneeze)


Besides fish I'm pretty much vegan so not a lot changes in my diet. Cutting out flour based carbs (no tort's with my Mexican dishes for instance) is helping a ton I think.

One problem I'm sure to face is muscle mass building up. To hit my projected weight I have to lose close to 20 pounds of whale blubber.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 8, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
Nice grub, everybody!

Fasting, except for Doritos. And Dave wanted to get a beer after work, so that too.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 8, 2016 - 08:04pm PT
you know you could always try Friendly-phetamin™

some people just sub it for food, y'know.


Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 8, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
A trip report about starting to cut calories...a first. LOL
http://vividrea1ity.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-first-day-on-diet.html
clarkolator

climber
Mar 9, 2016 - 05:33am PT
Nice Vitaly! Love the post. Good job, way to press on through and do the second part of the workout, sounds like you were rewarded for your efforts. Punishing burrito picture, though, not what I need right now.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 06:10am PT
I had to look ZzyQuil up. That's a sleep aid.... You works nights or something Vitaliy? Even working graveyard shift as a kid wrecked me...

Off for the morning 6 miles on trail. Dog DEMANDS it.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 9, 2016 - 06:27am PT
Bloating is awesome, because I'm down 6.4 since Sunday AM. Can't keep this up forever though I'd win easily if I could.

justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 9, 2016 - 08:52am PT
Allright- I've been lurking. I'm in too. I still have Christmas pudge hanging around. Normally I hit the ground running after New Years and get back in shape... but I tore my right calf right out of the gate first week in Feb. No cardio no climbing until it heals. Meh.

I'm not a good dieter- especially since the husband is such an excellent cook and it's hard not to clean the plate. Usually I just get outside more and the weight goes away, but injuries and cold weather are a hindrance. Initially I'll try to just drop all the comfort carbs and sugar.

I did bravely run the gauntlet of Girlscout cookies at the market yesterday without caving in. It was hard :(

I'm at 136. 130 is normal... 127 is what I consider "fighting weight" for optimal climbing. Looking to get rid of that 6 pounds to get back to "normal".

Great blog Vitaliy- Yoga is NOT for me either. I'm way to hyper active to sit quietly ever, and downward... anything...is just torture. Did take up pilates which is way more fun and I can work around the various injures easier.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 9, 2016 - 09:22am PT
skcreidc, no I work days but have had some trouble falling asleep. Melotonin wouldn't work, other stuff is too strong. I got over it for a few month but on the first night when I restricted the calories I couldn't sleep more than an hour or two because I was just too damn hungry, than waking up to piss like 5 times because I went heavy on the liquids and veggies.
Last night was much better.

justthemaid, how did you get a gig in Jim Herson's basement? That is likely a good spot to become a crusher. :) I like Yoga, especially power vinyasa at PGSF on Mon/Wed. Had a pulled hamstring which is still tight and a semi injured knee, so I stay away from the power class as the pace is faster and I like to focus on breathing/get deeper in the pose. The instructor talked a bit too much on Monday though and my mind wasn't into it.

I noticed, having a bowl of fresh salad in the morning is tastier than Oatmeal. Without any sort of dressing, it is a lot of bulk and not much as far as the calories go. Need to figure out some kind of a dinner which would keep me full but not be more than 200 calories or so. Maybe a microwaved bag of broccoli with half of chicken breast or scallops?

Also, Fage greek yogurt paired with an apple (or blueberries) is a nice lunch option. Like 200 calories, without the added sugar. Only natural sugar found in the apple, which is good to have.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 9, 2016 - 09:24am PT
I'm on a downward slope...so that's good. Not like Aya...but slow and steady.

I did bravely run the gauntlet of Girlscout cookies at the market yesterday without caving in. It was hard :(

I agree it's hard. But once they told me it was $5 a box it's gotten a whole lot easier.


Good work everyone!

Susan
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 9, 2016 - 09:54am PT
I've lost 19 lbs since January on the Paleo diet, which is basically just eating meat, fruit, nuts, and vegetables. My girl has lost 10 lbs and we both feel great energy wise. You don't count calories, but you can't eat dairy, grains, preservatives, or sugar. It is hard to shop for food without preservatives or sugars, but doable for a little more money. Cookies and sugar in general were the hardest to avoid and I still drink beer on occasion. Sushi is one of our favorite cheat meals, but pretty healthy for a cheat meal.
The biggest thing is to find what works for you and like most things moderation is key. Great recipes on Pintrest, if anyone is interested in this diet. Cool to see this thread.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 10:08am PT
Hope you got that licked Vitaliy. I'm bummed to hear my hero (Moose) doesn't even weigh a buck fifty! I'll never loose that much weight!!

Morning weight in was at 184.4 lbs. Down 3.6 lbs. My strategy is no animal products or oils, and eat as much carbs (starch) as I want. Add veggies and some fruit for nutrients each day,

Local CostCo carrying fresh organic blueberries now. This morning was steal cut oats with fresh blueberries. I'll have to eat again at 11 or 12 for sure.

Tonight is vegan chorizo; no oils added, but it does have textured soy protein for that "meaty" mouth feel. Kinda have mixed feeling about that TSP stuff..... Patty likes it tho. Normally anything veganized I am loath to call by the original name, but this tastes pretty legit.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 9, 2016 - 10:08am PT
Down 2.8 post-workout. Heavier meals than I wanted for the last couple. Today I must atone.


nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2016 - 10:43am PT
down about 2.5. that was the easy part. now i have to work for it. at least it's warming up a bit.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Mar 9, 2016 - 10:58am PT
Down 7.5lbs since just after my shoulder injury. Lot of time for relatively little drop. But I figure with Thin Mint season almost over, I'm doing pretty good.


Gym last night.
Need to run tonight. Hope it's not going to rain.


-Believe Logoff Run
Burnin' Oil

Trad climber
CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 11:00am PT
Vitaliy, you suck. Running this morning, feeling gassed, all I could think about was that stupid burrito in your blog. Even now, I can't get it out of my head. Carnitas burrito supreme with green sauce and three bottles of Negra Modelo.......
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2016 - 11:48am PT
bump to the next page
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2016 - 11:48am PT
nature - 181.5 start. Target: 169.5 and then onto 165.
Aya
labrat - 194 start
SC seagoat
Sewellymon - 222 start
clarkolator - 189.6 start
skcreidc - 188 start
Pewf - 124.4 start
JMC - 172 start
Vitaliy M. - 178.9
clinker - 198 (sorry about that!)

Support only participant(s):*
fivethirty - 166
Burch - 237 and bulging
locker - 69 and holding (don't blow away Dad!)
moosdrool 147.4 aiming for 140
justthemaid 136 aiming for 130

*if you are not doing the full 10 lbs by April 5th 23:59 I put you in the support group
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 11:53am PT
I found Patty's ginger sauce; whoooooooho. Definitely livened up the brown rice and butternut squash I just ate for lunch.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2016 - 11:59am PT
you need some of my ginger tataki sauce. you know the one ;)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 9, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
Dug into the remains of last year's garden for lunch. Beet "tartare" and a coupla old carrots.

One thing that's been hard is keeping my epic weight loss plan on the lowdown around my daughter (including quietly reducing my portion for our shared meals rather than eating something different than her and my hubby). Even in the first grade she comes home with peer-induced worries about getting fat (when in fact she's skin-and-bones). Even if I were to tell her that it's not about being skeletal in order to conform to some societal ideal, but rather, this is about _*THE SEND*_, I'm afraid that the explanation wouldn't take.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 9, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
how did you get a gig in Jim Herson's basement?

Gig?.. The guy kicked the bucket 15 years ago. I've been trapped in this basement ever since. Little help here? ;)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 9, 2016 - 06:16pm PT

supper... yum?
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 06:24pm PT
Nature, I DO remember that ginger tataki sauce....yum yum yum.....good idea!

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:14pm PT
Hey, El Natural, I am in.

I worked super hard. Climbed a handful of gym routes. Hit Seabright for a beer a fish taco.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:26pm PT
184.9. Salami, tri-tip, almonds, and taco salad w/o the taco; circuit weights and enduro clings on the garage 2 x 4. Again, thanks for the motie, everybody!
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:36pm PT
skcreidc you could try this vegan chorizo recipe [url="http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/02/vegan-chorizo-food-lab-recipe.htmlhttp://"]http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/02/vegan-chorizo-food-lab-recipe.htmlhttp://[/url]

I like it a lot. Made it for sushifest breakfast and it seemed to go over well although maybe folks were being nice.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
great job everyone. I said it before and I'll continue to say it - nothing would make me happier than to have us all win.. i mean lose... er, yeah that.

My fridge is now stuffed full of veggies. I'm usually pretty good about eating well anyway but this challenge makes me think about it a bit more. I think I'm having sauteed onion and spinach in coconut oil with little Field Roast Smoked Apple Vegan Sausage tossed in.

We had a great ride today - went over to Valmont Bike Park. The place is wicked cool.



clinker: noted! my bad!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 9, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
Where is that bike park? I want to go!!

Susan
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 9, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
It's here right in Boulder, few minute ride from nature's front door.

I have never really biked before so I had a grand time going over the baby jumps. Literally, labelled for children. And getting scared.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 9, 2016 - 08:50pm PT
Okey dokey my next trip there I'm bringing my bike (and veggies) ;)

Susan
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 9, 2016 - 08:54pm PT
I'm too skeered to ride there with the youngins'. I'll stick to dodging care on my road bike.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 10, 2016 - 08:32am PT
Thanks for the recipe link Aya! We will give it a try.

I'm feeling cocky today, so tonight is beer night. Lucky beer is vegan. The talk of Negro Modelo got to me....
Bread

Trad climber
Craggy Mountains, NC
Mar 10, 2016 - 09:09am PT
I just finished the Subway diet. Tuna sub gave me food poisoning. Lost 5lbs in 24hrs hugging the comode. Went from 178.5 to 173.5 (just below my fighting weight) where I've been holding steady for just over a week. Tried everything before that, but could hardly shed a pound.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 10, 2016 - 09:31am PT
Subway diet seems like a sure way to send the proj.
Weighted in at 174 yesterday, before a mostly cardio climbing (30 mins of climbing v0-2/3 boulder problems up and down without stopping)/stairmaster (hour) gym day.
Not an intense day, because I was still sore from Tuesday's bouldering/hangboard/weighted pull ups. Plan is to rest today and have an intense bouldering/hangboard session tomorrow after work. Than ski for two days giving the forearms/back/core some rest.

Before going to sleep I was hungry as an ox so I ate several cucumbers/other veggies.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2016 - 09:51am PT
The India diet is the one you want. A sip of water and yer good to go (unless you die). And it's one thing to hug a commode in these parts. Try working with a squatter. I think I lost about 18 pounds on that trip. A bought of something in Thailand almost killed me. Without pounding massive water I probably would have overheated to death. The guy in the Thai restaurant at the top of the hill on east Railay handed me a hand full of pills and told me take them and take a nap in the corner. It knocked me out and I woke up feeling not dead.

Though the other thing about India/Thailand is their portions are smaller. Us fat bloated americans will double size an already too large of a meal.

Just got done with an hour and a half of flying the Cessna on only a cup of coffee. Looking forward to this weigh in.

It's thursday so it's Thursday Night Cruiser Ride. I'm making coin margs instead of drinking beer.

HAPPY THURSDAY! LET'S RIDE!!!
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 10, 2016 - 10:42am PT
Down 5! (okay, 4.8 but who's counting)

Yesterday I was lightheaded a few times when standing, but a strange thing happened. My hunger has vanished, replaced by a sort of euphoria.

SOOO I'm not sure that's all that healthy. Going to eat more today, and especially tomorrow morning before I head out with my Silent Partner (I'm gonna die) and Microtrax to get in some laps.

I think it's going to be warm enough to get in a road bike cruise today. Our trails are still mud and snow, but I need a break from indoor stationary exercise.
Burnin' Oil

Trad climber
CA
Mar 10, 2016 - 10:45am PT
No booze in 4.3 days - now every climb is rattly fingers, rattly hands- even 5.6 gym jugs.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2016 - 10:46am PT
I weighed in on Aya's scale but have been using mine for the last few days. I think they are about 5lbs off. mine shows me down 9lbs but it's probably more like 4lbs. That's a lot for a few days but i suspect it's just less water due to eating foods that are less inflammatory like beer.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 10, 2016 - 11:06am PT
Slow and controlled weight loss with "Lifestyle changes" in your daily diet is key to losing and keeping it off...

I do agree with this. Well, that and looking at what you eat and how it plays with your microbiome, food tolerances, and genetics.

And for me, hormones? Aging? I spend my 20s as a "chunky" climber, at least compared to the Rifle crowd. Didn't matter how few calories I took in or how much I exercised, I couldn't lose weight.

After I turned 30 (and especially after I had my daughter), that changed. I'm 15# down from what I weighed back then, a slow consistent drop over the years.

I didn't think I'd be able to do more than 5# for the challenge until I saw I was up 4 and figured it was at least partially water from a bunch of salty meals.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 10, 2016 - 11:09am PT
Not part of the challenge but

I'm down ~8lbs in the past month.
Portion control, eliminating a few guilty pleasures, and jump starting my metabolism with daily short HIIT body weight only workouts.
12lbs to go.

Good luck peeps
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2016 - 11:09am PT
Slow and controlled weight loss with "Lifestyle changes" in your daily diet(ing) is key to losing and keeping it off...


This is very true. Dad is wise. After awhile in India I got use to the smaller portions and never really found myself hungry. At this point I've probably lost a pound of blubber and the rest water. Maybe two pounds but I'm adding it back on with a little muscle tone.

The hard part is maintaining it. I've been focused on my diet my entire adult life and still realize I find myself going down a dead end at times. So I don't look at challenges like these as a quick fix but rather a reminder of what I want to be.

Though to be fair to myself a bad food day for me is a good food day for 90%+ of americans. 30 years ago I gave up red meat. 27 years ago I gave up birds. That was about the same time the first organic (labeled) foods showed up in the Arcata Co-Op (f'ing hippy!). About 25 years ago i went strict vegan for two and a half years. I added fish only back in at that time. about 10 years ago i started eating eggs again but have since stopped about six months ago.

I've also cut back on tofu because of moob growth.

so on a bad day it's greasy fries and not a lot of fruits and veggies. This challenge made me fill my fridge with lots of veggies. So that's what I'm eating. Hard to get fat and bloated on grazing.
Burnin' Oil

Trad climber
CA
Mar 10, 2016 - 11:50am PT
Slow and controlled weight loss with "Lifestyle changes" in your daily diet(ing) is key to losing and keeping it off...


See it and hear about it very often...

Too many are in a hurry...

Ha ha. That requires consistent discipline, which I don't have.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 10, 2016 - 11:54am PT
made it to the base of the Rainbow Wall in 1:10 compared to a year and a half ago it taking us about 2 hrs

Yeah, I heard people bitching about the approach to rainbow wall, making it sound like some full day epic. Don't remember it taking long at all.


So nature and all, what do YOU guys do for your meals/snacks? Sharing is caring, would love to diversify my meals. Which can be summarized bu boring mixed with coffee.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2016 - 12:18pm PT
here's a 630 calorie meal for you.

I take a tablespoon of coconut oil in an iron skillet and cook up a half cup organic yellow onion. I toss in a can of organic black beans and cook it down so it's sorta thick. Pinch of salt or more. Pile a couple cups of organic spinach on a plate and pour the hot beans over them. Top that with a medium sized avocado and a fair amount of OG salsa. I might toss on a slice of Chao vegan cheese and that'll add another 60 calories. and if you do not know about this cheese and want to be vegan you have to try it. It'll make a vegan grilled cheese sammich that nobody could tell is vegan unless you told them. it gets all gooey and stringy like real cheese. One reason for that is they culture like cheese (rather than manufacturing it with other vegan cheeses that turn to cardboard when heated).

I'm big on OG foods but there are a few were it doesn't matter like avocados.

For snacks i've been soaking raw almonds and nibbling on them.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 10, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
OG = Original Gangster foods? :)

Nuts and avocados have a lot of calories. My meals are likely no more than 2-300 calories.

For example my lunch was a plate of veggies with a bit of chicken breast.

Breakfast was a single pack of oatmeal with a bit of almond milk and 4-5 scallops as my protein.

The dinner will likely be something more exciting. Like a salad? Don't forget I am trying to lose about 15 lbs, which is kind of a lot in a month. 10 a month is 1 lb in about 3 days. I guess 2.5 lbs a week is not that unhealthy. If I do 3lbs/week, I will be psyched. Will be difficult to sustain weight loss and energy while climbing/training. Not too bad though so far and a month is not all that long. After it ends, planning to maintain the weight though.
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
Mar 10, 2016 - 04:34pm PT
Good, you all are on the program. Glad you didn't wait for me.... I wouldn't have gone in. Got on the home scale today just a few pounds up from my "fat weight" so < 5 away from the target. Considering I ate like a pig in Phoenix complete with a commutes box of candy from Vegas to Pheonix and another from Phoenix to JT I think I'm okay.

BioDomes are kicking it out and some lean protein already defrosted. I may not be in, but I'm inspired.

~S
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 10, 2016 - 05:10pm PT
Me, too Susan. :) Inspired.
I have been on the Paleo-Auto-immune diet for three months now:
Have brought my blood numbers all back to within normal range after being 'way above anything like normal.
Have lost 12 pounds, without really noticing it leaving. Feel stronger and healthier than in a long time, in spite of a recent several-day sleepover with the nurses and docs for an adhesion.

I'm working to get my foods and sleep and spirit and life as healthy as I possibly can. Taking the best care I can of my body since I need it for more adventures. I have another 30-40 years of playing I want to do before I sit down to write my memoirs. :)

I am going to check back in after 30 days. By then, I'll have my next round of test scores back. I am totally confounding most of the mainstream MDs around here. Again. And the nurses: "You CAN'T have a resting pulse of 58 at your age! And your blood pressure is almost low!"

This is such a great idea. I don't want to lose 10 more pounds either, maybe 7. But I'll be cheering for us all. :)

Back to reading W. H. Murray's last book. That guy had exquisite sang froid and a delightful sense of humor as well.

Good Luck to us all!
feralfae
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 06:12am PT
"Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.”

― Hippocrates

Just another day in starch land... Off to do the usual with the dog; 6 miles of trail. Weighed in at 184 today.

justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 11, 2016 - 07:11am PT
Show us your moobs! :) Er.. maybe not

I'm paying attention to portion control too. I can usually feel full on half of a normal American portion if I don't keep munching away. Snacks are tough. Still figuring that out. Usually I just make a big cup of tea if I'm feeling snack-y.

The boy is out of town which actually makes it easier in some ways.. I hate cooking so I just make a lot of salads with some turkey or ham. I've mostly given up red meat because my stomach just doesn't seem to be able to digest it well.

The calf is finally feeling better so I'll be able to up my activity level. Probably get back on the rock next week.
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 11, 2016 - 07:28am PT
Shoulder is a bit f%×ed up from swimming, and I baked a loaf of banana bread today - neither of which are constructive for this particular challenge. Will pound out some milea tomorrow morning to make up for my transgressions.
Keep the faith!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 11, 2016 - 09:13am PT
Unmoved at 198. Actually, I am motivated(moved) and interested at what you guys do to lose the pounds. Too much physical work the last couple weeks. Have cut the snacks back and chomped a few more veggies.

When is the challenge end date?
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 11, 2016 - 09:16am PT
My plan to shed the pounds by throwing down a hunnert (okay, or maybe 6) toprope laps today has been defeated the sick child on my couch. Back to the stationary exercise machine.

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 09:29am PT
Started the trail jog with my 9 year old beast belly on the ground gacking; twice. So much for 6 miles I thought. But she bounced back quick and was tearing it up soon after. So we went for 8.




Anybody here regularly eat barley? I'm going to give it a shot starting next week.

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 09:37am PT
I prefer to drink it :)
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 09:39am PT
Liquid bread my man, liquid bread. Probably why I am still at 184lbs lol!!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 11, 2016 - 09:44am PT
Nature, what date the challenge end?
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 10:14am PT
Here Clinker, a quote from Nature
Weigh out is no later than 23:59 April 5th.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 11, 2016 - 11:09am PT
I am motivated(moved) and interested at what you guys do to lose the pounds. Too much physical work the last couple weeks. Have cut the snacks back and chomped a few more veggies.

I been trying to replace real meals with those that are low in calories but filling. For example my pack of oatmeal is VERY diluted with water and is not solid in consistency. Add a bit of cinnamon for flavor, mix a bit of milk in there. By the time I am done with fluid, I get to the solid stuff on the bottom. That with some sort of a protein followed by a cup of coffee fills me up till sometime afternoon. Adding more veggies and salady foods. Drinking more liquid. Chewing gum instead of going for a snack. Feel better today than earlier in the week. Not sure if it is because I am more over the flu or because my body is more used to the caloric deficit. Weight in today at 172 which is really good compared to 178.9 Saturday and 179 on Sunday. Getting under 167 or maybe even 166 by the end of the next week would rock. But likely not happen as I am sure a lot of my weight loss so far was due to my body holding on to less water.
Burnin' Oil

Trad climber
CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 11:17am PT
I am down from 204 to 197 in one week.

Minimize intake (less than 1000 calories per day) and maximize activity (running, lifting and climbing every day) to keep the metabolism going. Fighting through the lethargy is tough but it is penance for gluttony.

Once the weather dries up, I will increase calories to less than 2000 per day and offset that by more running.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 11, 2016 - 12:04pm PT
Thanks, skcreidc.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 11, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
Fell off the fitness train last night, but so worth it.

My daughter is graduating, got a job last week, and arrived with 4 of her awesome friends on spring break. They were in San Fran yesterday and bought me cheese as a present. Got the pasta water boiling, threw some onions and olive oil in a pan, sat back and watched the show. Great people, great feast, wouldn't trade it for the world.

Which brings me to why this thread is so great. I don't need to know what to do - I pretty much get how you lose weight. What I don't get is how you lose the bad attitude, the giving in to temptation, blowing off the goals just for today. It's hard to stay on track, especially when (as with last night) blowing things off is a good thing when viewed from a different perspective.

Anyway I feel like part of the answer is right here in this thread, with the encouragement and what-not. All your posts get me stokaged! I'm back on track, just watch the pounds melt away now!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 11, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
goddamit Moose.....stop that loser sh#t. Oh weight, this is the loser thread.

I flatlined today. Weather pretty sucky so it looks like primarily indoor stuff...not my fav.
I usually don't mind outdoor inclement weather unless its really windy (which it is) because I have this long time phobia of being hit by a branch. Probably because it happened to me as a child....it was small but it stunned me pretty badly so I'm still stuck with the phobia.


Susan
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 11, 2016 - 02:20pm PT
Moosefatty

An oxymoron where this particular moose is masquerading as the ox.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
We did a 14 mile cruiser ride last night - Thursday Night Cruiser Ride. I pulled my sushi trailer. Now granted I have an electric assist on my bike but I still got a hell of a work out. I think I ate about 900 calories of food yesterday. Though that was probably about 2000 calories of margarita and whatever else got passed around.
cotuclimber

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 11, 2016 - 05:13pm PT
An interesting thread to follow. The biggest loser for the very fit. Lol.

Nature, are you a professional chef, or the sushi fest is a thing on the side, strictly for fun?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2016 - 05:35pm PT
it's great when the biggest loser wins. and that's rather generous to term us 'fit'. haha..

i'm somewhere in between. I ran Sushi by Nature as a catering and sushi party business for a couple years but never really got it very far off the ground. I still do a party or two on occasion. I think I may try to bring my ginger/tataki sauce to market. Otherwise SushiFest is for fun (although technically I count the income/losses on schedule C).
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 11, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
I've been having a rough day, but came home to a great dinner!

nature grilled some marinated tofu that we had with an apple habanero chutney, big salad with perfect avocado, and a raw avocado carrot cumin soup. He's got some sort of weird hippie raw burgers in the dehydrator.


Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 12, 2016 - 09:22am PT
OG = old geezer

you are all an inspiration, but I've a longer term program that wouldn't fit the "Challenge" format.

It is interesting all the opinions about diet, nutrition, etc... it is probably just becoming a science... so much of it has to do with the ecology of our guts...
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 12, 2016 - 09:41am PT
118.8 this morning. The last time I weighed below 119 was after a colonoscopy prep. The time before that was in high school, I believe.

Still feeling like I need to add more food back in, though, because I'm hoping for a more steady decline on the last 4.4 pounds.
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 12, 2016 - 09:50am PT
Well, I've been down with a stomach bug for 2 days. Soup tea and and crackers was all my stomach could handle. Good(?) news is I'm down a few pounds. Have to see where it levels out.

Getting outside today for a hike in the Gorge if it kills me. Tired of being locked down. Sick of f*#king winter.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2016 - 10:07am PT
down about 4 lbs at this point.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2016 - 03:34pm PT
we went for a 3 mile run. I walked half of it but still i deserve a marg. down 6. probably just bloat. thinking i might consider my starting weight to be 179.5. my goal is down 15lbs by SushiFest.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 12, 2016 - 05:48pm PT
I want to be down that much by Sushifest, too.

Get Drunk Not Fat has helped me decide that since I burned 321 calories on that run, I'm entitled to a vodka martini. I made it extra dry, with a twist, but am contemplating a higher vermouth percentage since vermouth is "healthier"....
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Mar 12, 2016 - 05:52pm PT
I am a sympathy contestant and failed hugely tonight. Dinner was two margaritas and some chips and salsa (at least it was quality margarita). I may not get lighter, but it was really delicious. Tomorrow I will indulge in remorse.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 13, 2016 - 10:49am PT
I am listing on my port side.

Rained out of today's excursion.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 13, 2016 - 10:55am PT
Goretex donned...did about 5 miles of a run/walk/shuffle.
Goretex just not that breathable when heavily sweating.
I'll probably go to an Orange Theory class where I can sweat unbounded.

Susan
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 14, 2016 - 08:41am PT
Not happy with my diet over the weekend. Went skiing with some friends so it was tough to keep away from full meals and eating out. :( Will have to weight myself later in the week.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2016 - 09:19am PT
there was birthday cake. I passed. No snacks at night. Light dinner with hardly any empty carbs. More Veggies. But there was beer and I did make sushi for the Shortest ST. Paddy's Day Parade (1.5 blocks).


Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 14, 2016 - 09:21am PT
I took yesterday off. Ate a bit more (though still avoiding simple carbs) and skied with my family instead of focused aerobic. About a pound up today from my low point. I'm always heavier after skiing. Maybe inflammation in my knees?

I'm feeling tired today. Storm inbound, so maybe that's the low pressure. I'm planning time in the gym during the next two days in order to earn a trip to the hot springs Wednesday.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 14, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
Did a bit of a walk yesterday. Ended in pouring rain. The dogs were not amused. Wish my back soreness would pass so I could be a bit more active...
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 14, 2016 - 03:13pm PT
I ate cake. Scale reflects that. Ive also gained weight each morning after drinking. *sigh*
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 14, 2016 - 03:29pm PT
^^^^^^could be muscle Aya. just saying...that's what I tell myself at least ;)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 14, 2016 - 03:56pm PT
It really can be a problem. I bought some single malt scotch because I was just getting too strong drinking beer.
crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Mar 14, 2016 - 06:04pm PT
I seem to be down 2 lbs after cutting portions and stopping sugar for 10 days (and only having a little in the past few days because I fell off that wagon). I haven't yet amped up my exercise but hopefully now with the time change I will feel and be more energetic.

Part of my problem is that I work a 9-hour day (inside) and drive almost an hour either way to and from work. Fitting in workouts is a b*tch!



nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
well one thing we all have going for us is we've now had the first week to figure out what it might take and what doesn't help. Locker/Dad is right - it takes dedication. Short term and especially long term you need to find your game and stick to it. That takes time - often a lifetime. So use the first week as a prep week and don't worry too much about where you are. And trust me - as we get closer to paydirt (or the opposite) sh#t gets even more real.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 14, 2016 - 07:03pm PT
I know what it's going to take for me is no drinking no cake. I'm doing salmon/spinach/eggs for breakfast too. Lean protein for lunch, snacking on veggies with baba ghanouj throughout the day, and something else for dinner. It's definitely not as fun as raiding the candy dish at work or... today a client brough TWO dozen donuts and a receptionist brought three dozen cupcakes!?!!?!??! but I think it will work. The honey smokes salmon from cotsco is really good stuff. stay away from the smoked steelhead.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 14, 2016 - 07:05pm PT
oh and echoing fivethirty... i have added a bit more meat back into my diet. i feel kind of guilty but also it's what works for me. I'm trying to stick to sustainably sourced seafood, but im now keeping a tray of roasted sliced turkey breast in the fridge at work to snack on.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 15, 2016 - 10:41am PT
After climbing/core yesterday and pre-work 1 hrs 5 mins of cardio today, I was down to 169. According to scales it means I lost 10 lbs. BUT I am sure a lot of it was sweat and timing. Real weight is around 171, but psyched anyway. Have to continue down to be 164 BEFORE sweating.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 15, 2016 - 11:18am PT
I fell off the wagon last night. Dinner with my son. I think that is a worthy reason. I know I coulda had salad but we were at a great fish and chips place. I didn't eat the fries...well maybe 2.

Two day road trip starting tomorrow. It's usually a crap shoot what I eat on those. The real problem is no body movement. That lack of movement really gets me. Badly.

So I may have to look more towards the end of the week to get back on track.

My name is Susan and I am a fatty.


clarkolator

climber
Mar 16, 2016 - 08:27am PT
Totally worthy reason, Susan. And we love all of you, even the fatty bits.

Vitaly - way to go!

Crusher - I'm a 9 hour a day commuter, too! We gotta start a group session.

Pwef and Aya - Hilarious!

Five Thirty - the salmon, spinach, and eggs sounds too good. Gotta go shopping today, saw Sockeye for 7.99...

Wound up on the drunk not fat diet this weekend - revisited the old stompin' grounds up there you can't cross the street without bumping into a microbrew. Too cold to climb so skiied downhill hard, then hiked around Smith Rock, visualizing the future and remembering the past...(sigh)

Meanwhile back at the ranch did circuit weights and hangboard with 20 grams carb Monday, six-mile hill run (these East Bay hills are like teletubby hills right now, sooo pretty) and enduro cling with fasting yesterday, now down to 180.8. Got the gut cleared out, the glycogen right down there where I can dial it in, now all I need is a wagon to fall off of. St. Patty's anybody?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2016 - 09:59am PT
I have two teeth that are causing a lot of pain. Dentist tomorrow. I suspect I won't be eating much. lose/win/lose

ugh.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 16, 2016 - 10:34am PT
Yesterday was weird. As I said, I went to the gym early before work and did an hour of cardio and stretched after. Than went on a 30 min walk and went to yoga after work. The yoga class was more of a stretching, low intensity class and I felt like I have energy after. So I took the following power yoga class. After 3 hours of yoga I was done and today I am resting till the evening, when I will go climb at the gym. Hope to recover and follow the healthy diet for the next two days, as it seems a few friends and I will try climbing something long in the Valley.

Meanwhile back at the ranch did circuit weights and hangboard with 20 grams carb Monday, six-mile hill run (these East Bay hills are like teletubby hills right now, sooo pretty) and enduro cling with fasting yesterday, now down to 180.8. Got the gut cleared out, the glycogen right down there where I can dial it in, now all I need is a wagon to fall off of. St. Patty's anybody?

How did you get the gut cleaned out? :) The BMs are rare now. :( (sorry for TMI)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 16, 2016 - 10:57am PT
Lose some flab and send the gnar brah! Caitlin told me Maria got injured, super fortunate you are able to go.
So you scramble eggs and in the end of it throw some pieces of salman into it? Do you cook the spinach with it all, separately or eat it raw?

I am thinking of making sushi rolls with just enough rice, more cucumbers, some avocado and tuna or salmon. Tasty and filling, especially if you get in more fresh shiet.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 16, 2016 - 11:04am PT
How did you get the gut cleaned out? :) The BMs are rare now.


Jeeze Vitaliy, that's not good. I'm no expert, but I know that's bad for the long term at least. And it means your gut bacteria are not happy.

So my late breakfast has altered to include half cup barley, a half cup oatmeal with bananas and either blueberries or frozen cherries, then topped off with ground flax.
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 16, 2016 - 11:42pm PT
167lbs at mid-morning today: 5 lbs down from the start, but some of that attributable to level of hydration etc. Running fairly regularly, 5-7km a day, some core work and limited kettle bell. Prior to challenge I pulled or have a minor tear on a muscle in my back/shoulder, so my range of exercise is a bit limited and pissing me off. 21 hours of international flights await, will have to exercise some control so I am not a grazing and guzzling cow.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 17, 2016 - 06:16am PT
I'm still only down 6.7 overall. Cake and stuff last weekend kind of ruined it. But, I've lost weight less every morning since the start EXCEPT the three mornings after I had alcohol the night before. I guess that's my answer!

Poop.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2016 - 07:01am PT
I ate one meal yesterday and given i'm about to head to the dentist I probably won't eat much today. Also on antibiotics and tramadol so alcohol is out. But that's ok - i've gotta finish my pilots license and get DTAP off the ground.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 17, 2016 - 09:39am PT
I'm stuck between 4-5 pounds. I have a sick cat who has been keeping me up at night... lack of sleep drains my willpower pretty quick. Haven't had trouble keeping up the exercise schedule--it's already part of my routine and I just upped the frequency and duration a little bit. But I've had more food than I need the last couple days.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 17, 2016 - 11:37am PT
I did a hangboard session before climbing, which felt good. But sucked ass climbing. Upper body is sore. Lower body is very sore from Tuesday's workouts. Recovering today and tomorrow with diet only on the agenda. Going to Yosemite for the weekend.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
Now that you're no longer carrying all that tonnage you'll have a much better chance...

yeah, at least 50 feet earlier on the runway!


Vitally if you really want to get things moving a coffee enema will do wonders.



So... still no food today. One side of my mouth is number. Just got a root canal. They take 10 minutes these days.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 18, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
No fair removing body parts, nature! Oh wait -- you keep the tooth on a root canal, right?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 18, 2016 - 03:10pm PT
I weighted myself in at 169.5 last night, WITHOUT working out during the day and BEFORE taking a dump. So feel good about it. This weekend may put another dent in my diet though. But who knows, I expect to exert a good amount.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
What I mean by them taking 10 minutes is they've got the process down as well as the technology. After you are all numbed up it's a matter of drilling to the root, either removing it or cleaning out the canal, irrigating it, adding an antiseptic which is left for a week and then putting in a temp filling. I'll go back in a week when they will open it up again, irrigate it one more time and then insert the final piece and then seal it up. I'm left with a temp filling so I still have the process of getting the crown.

This is how endodontists roll these days. My first dentist told me as much.


I've not really eaten in a few days and the scale reflects that. Not exactly the way I wanted this to work especially since we got over a foot of snow and I'd like to get out and kick some turns.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2016 - 03:31pm PT
Dad,

No kidding! The way I figure it that's like $7200/hour.

We're in the wrong biz!

Son
MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Mar 18, 2016 - 07:17pm PT
In the same boat. Just got a temporary crown, and heading to Mexico next Weds for the root canal: $280 -vs- $1100 in Reno.

Still doing the crown local - $920 is not bad, plus I have friends who have had crowns done in Mexico and they have told me their dentists can tell the crown was south of the border. But a root canal? No-one will ever see that.

Plus, I can pick up some good tequila!
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 19, 2016 - 06:41am PT
Diet is going pretty good. I'm down 4/5 pounds already. My calf seems to have healed, so I've been able to start climbing again a couple days a week. I've also been doing palates. I'm sticking to paleo-type meals. Usually just oatmeal for breakfast. I've got a couple of friends insisting that wheat is the source of my chronic sinus issues, so I'm piggybacking a month of wheat/gluten-free experimentation to see if it helps the health issue.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2016 - 07:31am PT
after not eating for two days i'm now down 8.4 lbs. I'm going to keep going past the 10 lbs.

I'm seriously thinking of getting most of the work done in Bali since i'm traveling there in 4 months anyway. Poor me - having to stay in Indonesia for an extra couple weeks. poor me... poor poor me. It basically pays for the trip.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Mar 19, 2016 - 07:52am PT
Please, no more dental nightmare stories, makes me cringe.
Sh!t, I weigh 5 lbs. less than I did when I was a senior in high school. I'm sitting at 150 right now. I think I need to put on 5 lbs. of muscle. Man, this 5.8 at the Overlook (Red Wagon)really kicked my ass the other day. I Toproped the Right Trinity no problem though, but I got pretty pumped.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2016 - 07:59am PT
so in other words you can rope gun in the creek?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 19, 2016 - 08:04am PT
My name is Jon and I am a porker. 196

I started eating breakfast earlier the last four days. This helps me fire up the metabolism. Greek vanilla yogurt with granola on top, in a paper cup, to go.

Part of my problem this week was the customer made baked goodies every day and also made some breakfasts and lunches unannounced. I felt it was my duty to consume them.

This month those may not have been free meals.


Mister E, interesting option. Where in Mexico?

Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 19, 2016 - 08:20am PT
Whopper chest cold. I've been in bed for the last couple days. Not much appetite, though. Not sure if I'll go up or down in weight.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2016 - 11:38am PT
it's not over! still have two weeks+!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 19, 2016 - 11:59am PT
Nature,

Is this a final weigh in at the end date or progress during the play(course) of the challenge, as in football?


Not getting any kinder eating these.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 19, 2016 - 03:31pm PT
No worries swellymon. I'll tell you my last chance weight loss secret; stop drinking beer the last week. Good for 5 lbs with my metabolism.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2016 - 05:43pm PT
Nature,

Is this a final weigh in at the end date or progress during the play(course) of the challenge, as in football?


We're keeping it real simple. Nobody talked about side bets so those are out. Medium Sooze suggested a midway weigh in (5 lbs) and I like the idea but I'm lazy so....

weigh out before midnight April 5th and that's it. $10/lb not met unless you meet the 10lb lose. No penalty for turning into a bigger blob.
cotuclimber

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 19, 2016 - 08:01pm PT
Not a part of it, but lost 5 lbs! In the last year.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 19, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
We had broiled shrimp and steamed manilla clams and mashed cauliflower for dinner.

But i'm having wine. I'm only human.
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Mar 19, 2016 - 08:50pm PT
Got some food poisoning going on right now - not the best way to lose weight.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 20, 2016 - 09:44am PT
I'm back over 5 pounds lost. No exercise for the last few days, but no alcohol either, and my biggest calorie input has been Nyquil.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 20, 2016 - 10:05am PT
Way off because of travel. Getting back on the horse...er...actually the bike!

Time to roll.
Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2016 - 10:33am PT
Down 10.3 but I think that might be a bit of dehydration. Down 16.5 isn't goal.

Sveltness here I come
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 20, 2016 - 10:43am PT
I drank a bottle of wine last night. SOMEONE isn't helping me.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 20, 2016 - 11:15am PT
Well, I'm down 5 lbs now and been that way for 4 days. When I go totally meatless, no dairy, and no oil my body has to be convinced I'm sticking to this new regimen before it will give up that next block of weight. In other words, I plateau for a week or so. So this next week I should start slowly shedding some more pounds. Not having any hunger pangs and snack on a normal schedule.

Workout wise I've been climbing 4 times a week, and cardiovascular 6 days a week consisting of on trail 6 to 8 miles carrying 15 pounds. Turning 60 this year and would like to get a couple things done. The next step for me is leading some steep at Indian Creek.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 20, 2016 - 11:40am PT
I drank a bottle of wine last night. SOMEONE isn't helping me.

Phew....I don't feel so bad. I think I polished off about 2/3 of a great red.

Now with spring equinox...rebirth and all that.

Some schmaltz...


Susan





crusher

climber
Santa Monica, CA
Mar 21, 2016 - 12:06pm PT
schmaltz...

Susan, funny. I have schmaltz coming in the form of Passover next month. Time to prepare myself, at least, for that food and wine onslaught.

I'm just lurking but have to get back on the workout horse myself - spent the weekend at 2 different funeral/memorial services - did ok eating/drinking wise but other than a hike on Saturday afternoon didn't work out as much as I would have liked to. It's been a bit easier to reduce portions since I've been doing it for a couple of weeks now.



skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Mar 21, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
Oh, no worries! Didn't Steve McQueen already get rid of that thing?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2016 - 01:11pm PT
I'm pretty impressed with the amount of weight i'm losing. 15 lbs in a month. At least if I hit the weights are climb a little and add some muscle I'll still be below the 10lbs.

Going to stuff my piehole at sushifest though I tell ya!
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:50am PT
Blubber bump!

How's it going, everybody?

I took my kid to the doc yesterday. Turns out we have influenza. We had flu shots in October, so hoping that will reduce the duration.

Two days ago, my cognitively-impaired, hyperthyroid cat had a massive splat of diarrhea in the bathroom where he was confined for the wee hours of the night. He paced in it and shook his paws and managed to uniformly coat the lower 3 feet of walls, plus floor. The only exercise I've had since Friday is four hours of scrubbing poo while delirious. Good way to reduce appetite, though.

Down 6. I dunno, gonna be a tough haul to drop the rest. Never give up, never surrender, or something.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:35am PT
Down 11 and sort of not sure if I should continue this aggressive diet to get to the weight I wanted to get to, as I feel it isn't the healthiest, doesn't allow enough energy to feel fine all day and it does not let me recover from workouts as well. 168 yesterday in the evening. My original goal was 164/5.

A few friends and I did South Face of Watkins in a day from Happy Isles on Saturday and by the end of it I felt fairly wasted. The descent took forever due to all the snow on top, postholing and sh#t. I think took like over 7 hours to get back to the car, which sucked. 23 hour day. After that I literally inhaled half a box of granola with a protein shake, went to sleep, woke up 5 hours later, inhaled the other half and felt bad about all that. The week so far, has been going ok at the gym and with the calorie cutting. However, I got on my usual cardio machine last night and experience cramps in my legs. Obviously, I am still feeling the Watkins outing, which was Saturday.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 24, 2016 - 07:43am PT
0.4lb to go for ten, and another 20 to go after that. I don't FEEL any less blobby though.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:58am PT
Yes. After a stall I'm a loser again. Hoping I make it all the way (well for this first step).

Susan

Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 25, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
We went out to our favorite sake bar last night, thinking that we'd finished the bottle of sake we usually keep there at our last visit, so we'd be safe. No such luck. They pulled out half a bottle we had left over. I also figured all I wanted was the grilled fish heads - sooo good, healthy too - but no, they were all out. We had sashimi, and a bit of seaweed salad. Cool. But no, Yukisan, the chef, gave us a bunh of monkfish liver. Well, sure... and then suddenly there's a pile of deep fried salmon skin in front of us. If you insist!

Needless to say I still have a bit to go before I don't owe any of you people money :)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 27, 2016 - 07:53am PT
One week to go!

Not looking good for me. I'm stuck at 6 pounds and change and still too sick to take on any real cardio. Did twenty minutes yesterday at an easy pace, but I'm afraid of sucking gunk deeper into my lungs.

On the bright side, half my clothes are now too big. I guess I'll be hitting the thrift store.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 27, 2016 - 08:42am PT

Down five. Slow descent on the scale. I have been pretty active and pulling harder, must have converted a bit to muscle.

What I have realized during this challenge and reading everyone's posts is that I have never controlled what I eat. It has been difficult for me to both cut back on portion size and to change up my normal fare.

In 2010 I dropped down to just under 160 over 8 months of Wed and Sunday hiking, missing only two Sundays which were on average in the low 20 miles. I ate whatever I pleased and ballooned back soon after.

This must be why I tend to be too busy eating to take selfies.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Mar 27, 2016 - 08:48am PT
Hey, Tubby, step away from the carbs . . .
clarkolator

climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
After getting down 9 pounds a couple of weeks ago, I'm back where I started. Yikes!

Here we go, good thing there's 31 days in March!
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 28, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
Here we go, good thing there's 31 days in March!

OHH! I totally forgot this thing lasts a month, not four weeks. There is hope for me yet!! Downside: I swore off liquor until the end of the contest thinking it was just a week, and I have a friend's birthday coming up before the deadline. Do I betray my vow or hoist a brew?

Down 6.4 today. I really wanted to ride my bike but couldn't. Maybe by the next break in the weather I will stop hacking up a lung. Managed some bouldering though. Even though I'm mostly half-dead from this stupid flu, I could really feel the weight difference.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 28, 2016 - 07:26pm PT
Wait we're weighing out April 5th? If we started on a sunday shouldn't we weigh out on a sunday? not that I'm complaining.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 05:35am PT
185.9
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:47am PT
Yesterday got a great surprise. Although, I put in more calories in my body during the last week (I was feeling weaker and even got sick), yesterday stepped on the scale and was down to 165 lbs!!! Started at 179. Woot!

From now on, I will focus on maintaining it without the focus on dropping below 160, till I am done with a trip to Alaska in April. Can't go there feeling weak. After the return, will re-assess the weight, maybe train strength for 3 weeks (hangboard/boulder), than drop a few lbs before summer. Must be in alligator wrestling shape. :)

Down five. Slow descent on the scale. I have been pretty active and pulling harder, must have converted a bit to muscle.

What I have realized during this challenge and reading everyone's posts is that I have never controlled what I eat. It has been difficult for me to both cut back on portion size and to change up my normal fare.

If it is slow, but you are willing to keep at it after the challenge, it is good. As long as we don't go back to eating a ton of empty calories, we can maintain the results.
My personal problem is occasional episodes of binge eating. Very embarrassing to admit, two days ago I was about to go to sleep, than got up, went to the kitchen and ate three Luna/Kind bars. I can control myself during the day, but before I go to sleep, at times I have a craving that it is very hard to cope with. That's pretty much how I got up to 179 from 170. :( During the challenge I was mostly able to control it, or at least limit the number of episodes.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 08:32am PT
The original challenge was a 30 day challenge so that's how the date were counted up.

I might have ballooned up just a bit but I should be fine.
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 29, 2016 - 09:11am PT
Vitaliy, if you're going to binge eat, surely you can think of something more appealing than Kind bars!

My tea mugs hold about 24 oz fluid. I have a cup of hot herb tea every night. The heat and the volume really helps with night cravings.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Mar 31, 2016 - 11:00am PT
Down 11.9 as of this morning... gotta keep it up... another 20 lbs to go!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 31, 2016 - 11:46am PT
I'm scared to look. I've been chained to my desk working my ass off. Or, on as it would be. well, not my ass.
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 31, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
"What I have realized during this challenge and reading everyone's posts is that I have never controlled what I eat."

Too True!
192 as of this morning. I believe I'm going to owe people money...
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 31, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
There is an edge on a hangboard I was able to hold on to for only 8 seconds at my peak, ever. Was able to hang for 14! And am able to do one move on the smallest campus board rungs. YES, pathetic compared to all the kinds who can walk that thing, but I could not do a move on it a month ago. So super happy. about that...
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Mar 31, 2016 - 01:05pm PT
I had to have my kitty put to sleep. Miss that little guy. I've eaten too much chocolate in the last couple days.

I'm down 7. Gonna be tough but I'm still hopeful. Usually, I can shave 3 with a big enduro bike ride or something, but I think those easy pounds went away at the start of the month.
clarkolator

climber
Mar 31, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
Pewf, bummer! I hope the chocolate was therapeutic.

Sewelly...I think your calves look svelte!

I was within one pound, but a college trip with the son and an ill-advised/thouroghly enjoyable lasagna dinner withh friends has me 5 away now. Time for two-a-days!

justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Apr 1, 2016 - 06:34am PT
Sorry Pewf :( Meh. Hate when the little guys have to go.

130.1 on the scale this morning- looks like I hit my 6 lb goal.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 1, 2016 - 07:28am PT
I've got .7 to go. we'll probably go snowboarding tomorrow and that'll certainly burn some calories. Salads for meals. or veggie soup.

Minus the beer the one thing I've been good about is eliminating empty carbs like tortillas, etc. More green stuff as well. And no late night munchies.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 1, 2016 - 10:22am PT
Seems like everyone gained something out of this challenge so far! Very cool.
clarkolator

climber
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
181.2, goal is 179.6...
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 1, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
The home stretch! Let's do it!
clarkolator

climber
Apr 2, 2016 - 07:21am PT
180.2...

Thanks all, for decades I've started the year by losing weight, only to regain later in the spring. This DC thing definitely re-focused...
clarkolator

climber
Apr 2, 2016 - 01:35pm PT
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Apr 2, 2016 - 05:09pm PT
166 for the last few days. Maybe I'll go to 165/164,, but not the whole 10.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Apr 2, 2016 - 05:49pm PT
Congrats everyone who has made it already! Away from my scale for the weekend, was 117.4, still just 7 down. Hoping for a nice surprise when I get home, but not too optimistic. I'm psyched though... I have my first actually visible 6-pack (okay, as long as I flex my gut in just the right light)
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 4, 2016 - 08:40am PT
Last day! I'm still at 11.5 lb overall, so I guess barring any massive pigouts today, I'll likely still be there tomorrow. Goal is to continue this for another 15-20.

Last August at a family reunion, (when I weight about what I do now, after the loss the last month), I was talking to my uncle the iron man... and he remarked - you put it on easily; you can take it off just as easily. He was right.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2016 - 09:04am PT
uh oh. i might not make it. had it. but i lost it. i mean gained it.

Breatharians untie!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 4, 2016 - 10:19am PT
Made it half way. Sneaking away to So Cal for the rest of the week.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Apr 5, 2016 - 07:20am PT
116.6 this morning, probably not going to lose my last 2.2 without cutting off a foot or something.

So is that $22 into the pot?

I'm still super stoked, though the $22 is the least of my expenses after this (need smaller clothing and climbing harness). Planning on finishing out the 10 pounds if possible, though maybe I'll give myself a relaxed timeline. The challenge came at a good time for me because I'm stuck with daily cardio anyway due to some weird nerve pain/muscular cramps that tie me in knots if I don't exercise. Pulling something like 8% less up routes is a nice consolation for having to deal with that.

Thanks all!
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Apr 5, 2016 - 07:52am PT
So, I am shy by two pounds. Do we send the money to Chris Mac for his current ASCA fundraising efforts? Seems like a good place to put it all. Where is the pool? Or pot? Do we send $ to you to share it out to the winners? Not sure how this works at this point.

Nature, thanks for the motivation and for keeping us all on track. I am sticking with the Paleo eating plan. Love the energy and the good feeling and gaining of muscle mass. My free weight sets are getting longer and heavier. I am almost down to my best running weight again.

So, thank you, but, um . . .

Where do I sent the $20.00?

feralfae
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Apr 5, 2016 - 08:22am PT
Yup= thanks for the motivation Nature.

129.4 on the scale. beat my goal by 1/2 a pound.
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Apr 5, 2016 - 10:34am PT
Way to go, JTM!
Congratulations!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2016 - 11:03am PT
final checkout - down 8.6 lbs.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Apr 5, 2016 - 11:26am PT
Good job all! It's definitely good to spread the loss over 4 weeks. Weighing out today as the rest of the week will be super busy for me. We are heading to IC for a solid 6 days in the Creek come Friday am. Stoked!! Got my 10 too. Started at 188.0.
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Apr 5, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
Weighout at 165.4, a good place to be for me. Not a 10-lb loss though, so I owe $34 to the kitty.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 5, 2016 - 10:55pm PT
Weight stayed the same yesterday to today... phew. Made it. 11.5 overall :)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 6, 2016 - 11:24am PT
Was 166 yesterday. Pretty cool! Compared to the 179 at the start.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Apr 7, 2016 - 04:45pm PT
Is it over yet? I didn't make it by 3 pounds. Where do I send my penance?

Susan
cotuclimber

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Apr 7, 2016 - 06:20pm PT
I like the idea with AAC or ASCA...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 8, 2016 - 09:44am PT
so the rules in the past have been that the big losers (winners) get to split the pot.

I have little choice but to hand Aya a grant. However, I'll leave it up to the winners/losers to decide if the loot should be pooled and split up or if a donation to CMac as suggested above works.

I'll figure out who the actual losers but not big enough losers are after everyone checks in.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 8, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
Yo losers
wut up
i beat you all


hahaha
I like the idea of donating... but to where to where? :)
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 8, 2016 - 02:47pm PT
Um nature

I think Vitaliy actually won :)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 8, 2016 - 08:31pm PT
If there is any money that is supposed to go my way I'd be happy with it going to AAC, Access Fund or ASCA.
clarkolator

climber
Apr 9, 2016 - 09:30am PT
Hey everybody's a winner here!

I vote donate. Don't care to who.

Thanks nature, this was a great motivator. Everybody else too, who knew public shaming could be so fun? I figure I've lost a rope and a full Yosemite rack since January, can't wait to see how it feels.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 10, 2016 - 07:45am PT
I left five on the table, or in truth consumed way more off the table than I should have.

I owe for five and that means 50 dollars worth of carrots get donated where?

This challenge was a big bite of reality for my porkn'hike style of weight control. Thanks for everyone's input. The challenge goes on.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 10, 2016 - 09:17am PT
nature - 181.5 start. Lost 8.5 LOSER!
Aya - WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER
labrat - 194 start
SC seagoat down 7
Sewellymon - minus f4
clarkolator - 189.6 start
skcreidc - 188 start
Pewf - down 7.8
JMC - down 6.6
Vitaliy M. - down 25 WINNER!
clinker - 198 - lost 5
feralfae - down 8

Support only participant(s):*
fivethirty - 166
Burch - 321 and bulging
locker - bloated to 270
moosdrool 147.4 aiming for 140
justthemaid beat her goal by half a pound
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Apr 11, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
194 start

194 finish ;-((

I do believe I'm in a bit better shape but I need to stop putting things in my mouth....

I'm happy to send the money. Just tell me where and how :-)
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 11, 2016 - 04:00pm PT
NOT DOWN 25, down 13* !
Was 179 Now 166.

Lost 8.5 LOSER!

:) I see what you did there! Or did ya?! :)
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Apr 11, 2016 - 08:01pm PT

Paid up. if one of the winners wants the cash instead, I'm also happy to do that.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 11, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
Can I request a backrub?
JMC

climber
the land of milk and honey
Apr 11, 2016 - 08:34pm PT
Is that a seasonal (boy)/girlfriend request?
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
Apr 11, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
I just took a week off, ate ice cream, etc, drank a bunch of margs and kamikazes... ready to start again, will try to lose another 5 by sushifest and then another 10 after that.... not so bad!

(it's the not drinking thats killing me... but it's helping me not spend money at the liquor store.... the two liquor stores at which I shop and the Whole Foods are the only places I shop in town where the employees recognize me...)
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Apr 12, 2016 - 08:11am PT
Also donated to ASCA, rounded up to $25
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Apr 12, 2016 - 09:34am PT
Sent my $20.00 to ASCA today.

I'm going to stay on track with the Paleo Plan.

Thank you for this great incentive, Nature!

feralfae

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Apr 12, 2016 - 10:44am PT
Is that a seasonal (boy)/girlfriend request?

Position filled. Thank you for the interest.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Apr 12, 2016 - 12:48pm PT
Oops. Musta missed the memo that it was supposed to go to ASCA
I sent $ to Access Fund
Do I have to start over?


Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 12, 2016 - 01:45pm PT
oh, well technically it was suppose to be split between the winners. The donation part came late. So I suppose it doesn't matter - Access fund is fine.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Apr 12, 2016 - 03:06pm PT
oh, well technically it was suppose to be split between the winners

That's what I thought then I started seeing all the donation posts. I was too lazy to go through the thread. No discipline. No wonder I didn't make the 10. Boo hoo

Susan
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Apr 18, 2016 - 11:06am PT
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 19, 2016 - 05:09pm PT

Done. To Project Climb.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 5, 2016 - 01:02pm PT
Maintaining 165. How are others doing?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 5, 2016 - 02:17pm PT
scared to look after SushiFest (AKA StuffYourPieHoleFest)
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
May 5, 2016 - 02:51pm PT
196lbs but somehow managed a steep 11 FA last weekend. They were making fun of my hard breathing on the 10b warm-up. Feeling stronger but need to get the weight down for sure. :)

Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
May 5, 2016 - 03:25pm PT
116, creeping down toward my original goal (114.4). I've been sick with respiratory gunk, no aerobic. But back to climbing this week.

Depending on what happens with muscle mass I think I will try to drop 3-5 more over the summer.
Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
May 6, 2016 - 08:38pm PT
I gained back 3 after sushifest, and the pigging out for the week after. cinco de mayo and associated hangover today (ie eat frozen pizza day) didn't help. Back on the wagon sunday!
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
May 23, 2016 - 11:19am PT
Okay so I'm now up a pound. Little too much snacking, plus a fall off from cardio now that the crags are warm. To make things worse, my daughter gets out of school for summer soon. Gonna make the exercise harder to fit in around everything else.

I've noticed such a huge difference in my climbing thanks to the added fitness from the challenge, I'm not about to give that up.

So, I'm starting a losers' bracket. Anyone is welcome, even if you aren't a loser. My target is 2 pounds beyond my original goal, to be shed (and maintained) by July 1. I'll once again be paying the deficit to charity at a rate of $10/lb.

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 23, 2016 - 11:56am PT
I'd love to hit 160 by July 1st. But doing it without starvation and episodes of eating more than I should because being hungry for long makes you crave the food more. Not sure what I weight now. Likely close to 168 or so. Will check today. But I will try to join you. Maybe we can do some sort of an email chain instead of doing an open ST thing? Just an idea...
In general I feel stronger than I did when I was not eating as much, although I did gain back a few pounds, so I don't want to lose strength. Have to really control the nutrition intake.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
May 23, 2016 - 12:19pm PT
I'm up for another round.

Susan
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2016 - 04:32pm PT
I'm still hovering right where I finished - 8 lbs down from my blimped-out weight.

We could do what we inadvertently did last time - $10 per pound for not reaching your goal weight. That way anyone could play and there would be no disadvantage (even if your goal was to lose a pound you wouldn't be winning/splitting the pot).


I'd do five pounds - 167 goal weight

That seem fair?
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
May 23, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
I think any goal is fair, especially when the pot goes to charity. Mine will be about 5 down from current, too.

What I really like about the challenge is the accountability. I don't have a hard time finding motivation for climbing, but sometimes I really would rather eat a cookie than cross train.

I think the email idea is a decent one. I'm happy to start/maintain the list if that's how we want to go. Show of hands?
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 23, 2016 - 06:44pm PT
*
Hey.. Diet challenge people, I thought this was a really good article, it certainly is my own personal experience.......Calorie restriction is more of a player in weight loss than exercise....Exercise for overall health, ..eat less to lose weight..

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11518804/weight-loss-exercise-myth-burn-calories
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2016 - 08:05pm PT
does beer count as "eating"?

That's my downfall. I like beer. Though I did realize that if I have snacks in the house I'll gobble them up late at night. Nothing worse than waking up in the morning to that empty pint of coconut ice cream that was purchased just 12 hours prior.

And I have no problem with this philosophy.
MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
May 23, 2016 - 10:56pm PT
Well, my wife is more svelte because of this - so a big thank you to participants and motivators!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
May 24, 2016 - 01:19am PT
Thanks Nita. Interesting article.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 24, 2016 - 08:43am PT
Interesting article about follow up studies on some of the participants of the biggest loser. Turns out after you restrict a significant amount of calories, the metabolic needs of your body also change. You end up needing less calories a day to maintain weight. Which means added calories after restrictions, could lead to re-gaining some of the weight.
I wonder what are my metabolic needs. I used to weight 300 lbs and dropped a lot of weight over the years. Also, my resting HR is about 45...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?_r=0
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
May 24, 2016 - 09:01am PT
^^^^. Very interesting article. I've often wondered about that after losing 15 or 20 pounds. It seemed so unforgiving keeping it off.

it's great you're so vigilant so you never go back to where you were. It'll start getting harder and harder to make changes as you age...even with good habits the results are so much slower.

Anyway, I'm in or the next round.

Susan.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 24, 2016 - 10:26am PT
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Vitaliy, Excuse me for not taking the time to read the article that you posted.

Just a guess on the main difference between you and the contestants on The Biggest Looser.

They participated in an intense diet & exercise program and lost their weight very quickly. You on the other hand dropped a lot of weight over the years..




ps.. I just can't picture you weighing 300 pounds....
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
May 24, 2016 - 10:50am PT
It was not as much as those people at once of course, but 40 lbs in a year and 50 the following year is kind of a lot too. Anyways, I did notice that when on the same climbing trip with friends, I can’t eat as much as they do, unless I want to gain weight. No clue if it is due to the weight loss in the past, but I think my metabolic needs are not the same as for an average person my size.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
May 24, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
It seems that the best dieting regimen is to simply eat (and live) in a manner that you are willing to sustain for the rest of your life. Doing anything else and expecting short-term results to last doesn't make sense.

Most people need very little food, but we are habituated to eating a lot because it tastes good (and maybe we have biological impulses to keep eating because historically food was not so easy to come by and having a store of fat was a good survival mechanism). So we eat more than we need, then we poop out the extra if we can and whatever is left we pack on as fat.

It takes some adjustment but it is possible to learn to like the feeling of being a little bit hungry and enjoy the slimming effects of that. I am not presently in one of those cycles, but getting closer through more activities.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
May 24, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
Thanks for the interesting articles.

Here's something I found regarding basal metabolic rate:

http://www.bupa.com.au/health-and-wellness/health-information/az-health-information/exercise-and-metabolism


All right, so the rules for Round 2 aka Losers' Bracket:

Everyone sets a personal target to achieve by July 1. This can be as little as 0 pounds lost (for maintaining healthy habits), but not negative. If you don't make it, pay $10 a pound to a charity of your choice.

Join any time, post up a goal (either target weight or amount lost).

From my post-climbing weigh-in today, I'm shooting for 4.6 down over the 5 weeks.

Aya K

Trad climber
Boulder, CO!
May 27, 2016 - 07:09pm PT
I have another 20 to go. I have not gained back my weight, which is great, but I will if i keep hanging out with nature. We currently have FOUR 1.75L bottles of vodka in the liquor cabinet. Can we do this again? Please?
monolith

climber
state of being
May 27, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
A complete cleansing and healing happens when you consume all your body fat, but not falling into starvation.

That would be a health disaster.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Reply - May 31, 2016 - 11:15am PT
let's begin tomorrow and end it at the end of the month.

My target weight is 165 which should be about 7 lbs.

I hung out with kev over the weekend and i called me chubby.

I bit my tongue. Though it's a good thing I didn't swallow. Last thing I need is more calories.
Pewf

climber
Gunnison, CO
Jun 1, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
Didn't get a chance to weigh in this morning. Targeting 112.4 (old target - 2). I have 4-5 to go.

I'm still not doing enough cross-training despite my best intentions. But I did hike about 5 miles with a bunch of gear yesterday only to realize I didn't really have time to climb. So there's that.

Tomorrow I'm on my bike no matter what! And no snacks...

MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Jun 1, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
160 and dropping - Bishop summers and hard work do it for me every year.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Jun 1, 2016 - 09:30pm PT
160 and dropping

Going for Mr. Ethiopia?
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jun 1, 2016 - 09:46pm PT
In.


Susan
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Jun 1, 2016 - 09:53pm PT
The challenge is just eating properly to begin with. Then you will end up at the weight you should be at. I am already there at 180 - lbs.
Gilroy

Social climber
Bolderado
Jun 1, 2016 - 10:17pm PT
My ex lost 300 lb. one year. 180 of it was me.
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