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pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 18, 2016 - 11:16am PT

Heard that the bolts have been removed?

From Face Book so cal climbers website..

Hey all, went out to Point Dume on Sunday for some TR action, and all bolts have been chopped and all access trails to the top have been blocked. There is now a solitary boulder up top for protection, and if you've been there before, you know this little boulder needs some serious backing up (which used to be done with bolts).

Finally cleaned that sh#t off the wall.. Never really liked climbing on that thing anyway..

edit:

i heard the news 2 days ago been at work also have not climbed PT DUME in years would rather go to PT MUGU.. today 1-20 had day OFF took some pic's of the disgust.. surf here year round ALWAYS tell people all about Rock Climbing at PT DUME.. BAD CHOICE RANGERS..

Cazy rangers
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RyanD

climber

Jan 18, 2016 - 11:17am PT

Sloan!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!

ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber

ne'er–do–well

Jan 18, 2016 - 01:34pm PT

The state parks being shut down left and right ...
the man probably saw it as a potential liability issue.

guyman

Social climber

Moorpark, CA.

Jan 18, 2016 - 05:17pm PT

Time to put the anchors over the edge....

Heyzeus

climber

Hollywood,Ca

Jan 18, 2016 - 06:36pm PT

Where's the Access Fund?
I'm sure they're appeasing the powers that be behind the scenes.....

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2016 - 06:38pm PT

i'll go out there someday just before I surf Westwards plant some bolts in.. I wish the rangers would consider the revenue climbing and hiking provides.. Park service owns tooooo much land.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 18, 2016 - 07:24pm PT

Wish I could help. I liked surfing Westward. Had a super up close experience with a humpback there. Like too close for comfort. Should be good this year with the rain and potential sandbar development.

Don't forget to take the prophylactic antibiotics. Ha.

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Jan 18, 2016 - 07:25pm PT

So long!

Darwin

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Jan 18, 2016 - 07:27pm PT

Given the weather this winter, I was so sure you were going to say

"It's going off!!!!" i.e. breaking like it's never has before. Oh well. Oh, yeah it IS a climbing forum.

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 18, 2016 - 07:31pm PT

Had a super up close experience with a humpback there. Like too close for comfort.

Same here..escopeta 2years ago..
but over at Trancas
was like Eye ball wrinkles grey Baby Humpback..
some 7ft away..
scary aint it..
Beauty size and they are curious..

just so you know at tower 8 on saturday i spotted a larger one closer to the surfers..

Pt Dume what can we do!

So long!

lol!

more like

So long Pt Dume Dave Katz Mike Flood ground up FA of So Cal JUNK show turned into a Squeeze JOB Top rope LAND!

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 18, 2016 - 07:40pm PT

Yeah I never really understood the allure of climbing slimy rock on the beach with surf in such close proximity.

The humpbacks are indeed curious. As are the Dolphins at county line. I never much cared for the Zuma surf when Oxnard was so close. Issue a few beat downs and you are in for life.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Jan 18, 2016 - 11:59pm PT

Nooooooooooo! Not Point Dume!

You maniacs!
You blew it up!
God damn you!
God damn you all to hell!

Was it the local residents? The folks near the Malibu pier, at Carbon Beach, have been illegally blocking access to "their" beach for years. Same with some of the other beaches in that area.

Entitled Elitism - the choice of a New Generation

Fish Finder

climber

Jan 19, 2016 - 05:59am PT

Whales Dolphins Seals and Sharks

great place to kayak to see your neighbors

night kayaking PT Dume is one of the eeriest things Ive ever done

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 19, 2016 - 06:05am PT

night kayaking PT Dume is one of the eeriest things Ive ever done

And the most fun! We used to make a loop around the buoy every full moon. Especially fun when the bio bloom was out.

Some large sharks out there for sure. Watch your ass.

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 19, 2016 - 06:51am PT

Well, it's a shame if the TR anchors got removed. You jaded locals that are giving the "good riddance" can stick to your 5.12 proj. For us mortals, it is an excellent cliff for TR soloing and a pleasant place to hang out on nice days. Buddy lives right above and we've had a lot of nice relaxing days climbing and whale/dolphin watching at the same time.

The lead bolts were long overdue for removal since they were in bad shape and the powers-that-be wouldn't allow replacement. A certain dumb ass went in there a few years ago to try to re-bolt and got caught. Mangled a bunch of lead bolts and left a mess that just pissed everyone off and made it even more dangerous.

Tried to block the access trail.??. LOL- good luck keeping regular hikers off that cliff. I doubt that will work.

LOL BTW- 3000 posts about how awesome Pt.Mugo and Stoney are and a snub for Pt. Dume... ??? it is the lack of graffiti, grime and trash that makes it so un-appealing?

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 19, 2016 - 07:16am PT

justthemaid,

I'm no longer a local but it just seemed contrived to go to the beach to climb a chosspile like that.

For the record, I found Pt. Mugu and Stoney Point equally contrived and never cared to climb their either.

:D

EDIT: Although I did some anchor testing at Pt. Mugo once. Can't remember but I got some new pro and wanted to fiddle. Plus its fun to watch people kill it at Supertubes.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 07:35am PT

Some large sharks out there for sure. Watch your ass

.

Remember about 20 years ago when an experienced couple of sea kayakers set off from
there to go to Ventura (or vice versa)? Found their kayak a few days later well munched.

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Jan 19, 2016 - 07:54am PT

Just The MAid
can only climb like old school 5.7 MAX so PD was a dream Crag!! TOTAL PILE.. GOOD BY..

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2016 - 07:59am PT

A certain dumb ass went in there a few years ago to try to re-bolt and got caught. Mangled a bunch of lead bolts and left a mess that just pissed everyone off and made it even more dangerous.

Maid I wonder who that was.. glad I never took on that project..

LOL BTW- 3000 posts about how awesome Pt.Mugo and Stoney are and a snub for Pt. Dume... ??? it is the lack of graffiti, grime and trash that makes it so un-appealing?

BTW I'm BETTER than you!

great place to kayak to see your neighbors

night kayaking PT Dume is one of the eeriest things Ive ever done

totally scary.. I get in the water before sunrise.. cant even see the board when surfing.. fish finder some 300yards is a Great White shark PIN.

FRUMY

Trad climber

Bishop,CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:12am PT

Pyro - the park service owns to much land?

If that were private property you nor anyone would have ever climbed on it.

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:20am PT

oh- I could name names... but it would serve no purpose. Dumb-ass is public record for anyone who wants to do some digging.

"I'm better than you"... 1st grade insults seem to prove otherwise.

Fish Finder

climber

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:22am PT

I had forgoten about the bio bloom every once in a while

a million little florescent lights going off under the waters surface

totally trippy

You actually feel the presence of all the underwater life

Kanan Dume has that large rock shelf that the sharks love because of the colder water there.

Sure do miss the abalone hunting on that wall

if i didnt have horses in the high sierra , I would be back on the PCH coast in a heart beat

JC your outlook on others must really eat away at you or being a dick must just come natural to you

Edit: never was scared by the whales but never was really close
have paddled many hours in line with schools of dolphins which was exhilarating
seen many a shark as when you see seals you will see sharks

Was never scarred of the sharks but once when they seemed uncomfortably close, but fear not , the dolphins chased them off

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:39am PT

Thank you Fish. Pt Dume is a nice spot. One of the tallest cliffs on the coast. Decent rock quality. Yes- a beginners area but I don't get all the hate.

FYI: two shoulder surgeries have not repaired my totally destroyed shoulder so yes- I'm relegated to moderate climbing most days- maybe the rest of my life. My choices are limited if I want to get on the rock at all. I know this comes as a great disappointment to the judgmental hard-men out there who base their entire evaluation of people on the grade someone can can climb . I climb what I can and enjoy it regardless of your bullsh#t.

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:44am PT

Fish Finder sounds like u know all about Greg, you climb about the same maybe 2 grades harder FACT. Why hide behind a avatar Fishy.
BRA~!

Fat Dad

Trad climber

Los Angeles, CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 08:49am PT

Wow, harsh thread for what one would think is a relatively tame topic.

I don't know the rationale for chopping the bolts, but given the popularity of that area (despite what some others think), there should be decent anchors up top.

Fish Finder

climber

Jan 19, 2016 - 09:32am PT

Jeff

I do know all about the PCH and waters in Malibu
also well versed in dick, because I have one

what i dont understand is your irreverent childish attitude towards others.....
use to sdmire the hard climber you are but the personality lately has been ugly

carry on Jeff .... your reputation proceeds you

Fish Finder

climber

Jan 19, 2016 - 09:47am PT

Thanks Jeff

she is a pleasure to be around

the best to you

Gregg

judging man by the level he can climb is no way to go about measuring your life... just sayin

10b4me

Mountain climber

Retired

Jan 19, 2016 - 11:25am PT

Fattrad owns that rock and beach, worked the Sheriff Beach Team. Knows the current Captain of the station. Want climbing, FB Fattrad. Thanks.

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 11:42am PT

I'm with Fat Dad on this one. To this outsider, the vicious nature of some posts don't seem to fit the nature of the issue, but then I admit to a certain bias, for several reasons:

1. I don't understand the "route gourmet" nature of the criticism. Certainly Pt. Dume may not be in the same league of importance as Stoney Point, say, but that doesn't make it unimportant to our community as a whole. Just because I don't like to climb in a particular area shouldn't mean that I don't care if anyone can climb there.

2. I don't understand the superiority complex of certain posts. As an example, I know Justthemaid, and I know she is a real climber. The fact that her physical condition is compromised because of injury doesn't mean that her opinion is "worse" or "better" than anyone else's.

3. It doesn't follow that only the "best" climbers' opinions matter regarding access. We always have looked to those doing the hardest routes in the best style for emulation and, often, for ethics as well. I was raised with the idea that only the top climbers were qualified to determine when to place a bolt. If a better climber could avoid placing a bolt, I would avoid it as well, even if it meant being defeated by the climb. While that's no longer the rule, allowing only those with the greatest technical ability to dictate where we should climb makes no sense to me. The climbing community has grown much bigger.

4. Is this issue really worth all the insults?

John

rincon

climber

Coarsegold

Jan 19, 2016 - 11:50am PT

I agree John!

I always had a good time at Point Dume. That might be the most used beach in the world for filming TV commercials and movies.

guyman

Social climber

Moorpark, CA.

Jan 19, 2016 - 12:11pm PT

I agree John....

Every Craig Matters

looking sketchy there...

Social climber

Lassitude 33

Jan 19, 2016 - 12:23pm PT

John, pretty much my sentiments.

Point Dume is hardly a destination crag, but it is a climbing area that has seen activity for many decades. I've climbed at many worse areas. There is no logical reason for denying access or removal of anchors.

Every area is worth fighting for. The "reasons" for shutting down a marginal quality crag, left unchallenged, can easily be applied to even the best climbing areas.

But, as a washed up, never was been, who cares what I think.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 19, 2016 - 12:24pm PT

But, as a washed up, never was been, who cares what I think.

You're in good company. :D

Fish Finder

climber

Jan 19, 2016 - 02:00pm PT

hey Jeff

your editing is hilarious and you grading me as a climber is comical at best

to some this is real life and many know me here

Someday you will also

Its all good

I just like to stand up for my friends when the shlt is flinging shlt

For the record: I wouldnt climb PT Dume if im gonna be there,Im gettin in the ocean (only thing I miss here in the high sierra)

much better as a quick hike if you must be inland

le_bruce

climber

Oakland, CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 02:18pm PT

I like climbing at Point Dume. That right line, a 5.10, on the ocean-facing wall is a lot of fun. Running a few laps on that near sunset, gulls + pelicans + seals + dolphins + whales everywhere, with all of the Pacific spreading below and around you - how can you be against that?

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 19, 2016 - 05:15pm PT

WTF, you guys? I know Skip a bit and she is mucho cool.
Pyro seemed cool until today's rant but I'll still wish him Happy Birthday!
I've heard good things about Jeff, too, so I am mystified.

Maybe we all need to score some Chinese Licorice Coughing Liquid and
get a drum circle together!

OTC Cough Liquid Found to Contain Morphine

Brian in SLC

Social climber

Salt Lake City, UT

Jan 19, 2016 - 07:21pm PT

Climbed here after work a few years back...

Seemed pretty sweet to me.

Kind of a nice hang.

Enjoyed it!

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2016 - 07:21pm PT

Skippy its best to have DAVE KATZ write a letter to park service.. maybe he can negotiate access..
He makes more money than u and I justthemaid..

Edit: brian love those pics..love that arete..

Pt dume featured
Article in MALIBU TIMES..

Must be la county parks dept....think they manage that along with zuma beach....was kind of a fun spot when learning to climb..

dhayan

climber

culver city, ca

Jan 19, 2016 - 09:42pm PT

I love pt dume. Never had a bad day there although usually I go on weekday afternoon/evenings since I work in the area, or sometimes just a lap or two up and down the arête at lunchtime. it's a really beautiful spot and having a little bit of climbing there is just icing.

Spider Savage

Mountain climber

The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles

Jan 19, 2016 - 10:32pm PT

I'm guessing the heavy wave action has got someone worried that that rock will collapse on someone.

Let's wait until spring and see what happens.

A quick call to the local ranger would get the truth. You do it. I'm too lazy.

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 20, 2016 - 06:30am PT

It's actually a State Park if I remember correctly. I'll make a phone call to the park today to ask them what's going on with the access and for a direct contact for the climbing community. This whole thread is based on a second hand post from another website. I'd like to make sure it's factual before dragging Access Fund into it.

Edit to update: Total PIA getting a district ranger on the phone. Spent all morning getting referred to no answer phone #s, and full mailboxes. Talked to some contacts at the Santa Monica Visitors Center (who didn't have a clue) and sent off a couple emails to the Park Service (wrong agency but maybe they can hook me up or get some info.)

The only reference I can find to this issue on the entire internet is that single post on SoCal Climbers. Guy says he's already contacted Access Fund.

Guess we wait to hear back from someone.

clinker

Trad climber

Santa Cruz, California

Jan 20, 2016 - 06:51am PT

I was friends with your girl... not you.

This is why a morning click onto ST is so worth the while.
:)

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 20, 2016 - 09:57am PT

Got a Response from the park service just now: here's the scoop. I'll phone the guy now to ask permission to replace the anchors.

Your email to our Sacramento Communications Office on Point Dume Access Issue was forwarded to me for a response. There isn’t a formal ban on climbing at Point Dume. Yesterday I was made aware of the removal of the top-rope anchors and the closing of unauthorized use trails had occurred. I made an immediate inquiry into this matter and discovered that over this past weekend there was a State Park sponsored Point Dume Volunteer Work Day in which approximately twenty volunteers lead by State Parks staff repaired and brushed system trails, repaired rusted or missing fencing, and added signage to prevent off trail use with the intent to protect the extremely fragile coastal environment. Unfortunately, the over-zealous volunteers and uninformed staff took it upon themselves to remove what they deemed to be tripping hazards. While the anchors are not maintained by State Parks nor condoned it was never managements intention to remove any existing anchors or bolts or actively prohibit climbing activities from the Point Dume.
This issue has been addressed with the employee in question to ensure this sort of action does not occur again. If you have any questions or additional concerns please do not hesitate to contact me.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 10:01am PT

what they deemed to be tripping hazards.

What were they doing on top of the rock wearing Birckenstocks?

StahlBro

Trad climber

San Diego, CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 10:14am PT

Good work JtM.

It is a fun place. We were there a few years back soloing the arete and ran into Captian Kirk (William Shatner). He was there with a crew practicing for his "climbing scenes" in the up coming Star Trek movie. We talked to him for a bit, and he seemed like a good guy was pretty funny.

Sam E

Boulder climber

Malibu

Jan 20, 2016 - 10:35am PT

Thanks for the info Skip. The Ocean side anchors were chopped some time ago. I can only speculate it was to try and deter the "Look at me" rappelling antics of a certain euro. All the rusted lead bolts on the beach side and the ocean side remain. Although as Skip noted, most are smashed from the first Good Samaritan. That beach is packed every summer and no amount of Closed signs and piled of brush will stop a group of adventurous teens from the summit.

overwatch

climber

Jan 20, 2016 - 10:35am PT

apparently they were the ones that were tripping

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Jan 20, 2016 - 10:48am PT

Thanks for the pictures Sam. It helps with the replacement discussion. It's a "delicate" subject. Anyone who needs more specifics can PM me.

The Splinter trails and cut-throughs - some of which were created by climbers- are the issue they were trying to correct. The area is a preserve and the plants and wildlife are fragile, so please respect any trails they have blocked.

Is there still a main access trail that isn't "closed"?

Edit- LOL- I know the Euro you speak of.

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 11:21am PT

Thanks for the good work, Skip.

John

guyman

Social climber

Moorpark, CA.

Jan 20, 2016 - 01:13pm PT

Guy says he's already contacted Access Fund.

Hi, JTM.... thank you for getting on this one, in a meaningful way. So it seems to me if they really don't want a trip and fall incident the best thing to do is put the anchors over side and down some, then one must lead the climbs before a Top Rope can be set. And this way climbers would not need to walk around on the top. We could make this a win win and replace all the old bolts with good long lasting bolts and all the climbs could be sport climbs, only no rappelling.... IMHO a good thing.

and by the way.... I have never contacted the AF.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Jan 20, 2016 - 01:19pm PT

I think it was short for "the guy" (who first reported it on SoCal Climbers. Not "the Guy" (notice capitalization). Ha

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2016 - 01:22pm PT

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NIce WORK JTM.. as you work foreman i'll give you credit..

GUYMAN you cant take the rappelling out of it!
LOTS of search and rescue guys are all the time rapping that thing..

sam thanks for the pic's I went up there today after surfing ZUMA..
these rangers are INSANE..

G_Gnome

Trad climber

Cali

Jan 20, 2016 - 01:37pm PT

Sewelly, Pyro is not little Jeff, nor is anyone else on this thread. Little Jeff is Jafer on ST.

Part of the problem is that Pyro's wife also posts under his account and is nastier than Pyro himself so read anything posted under his name with that in mind.

overwatch

climber

Jan 20, 2016 - 02:03pm PT

Do they both worship Medusa?

Fat Dad

Trad climber

Los Angeles, CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 03:14pm PT

Trip and fall risk? If that's their rationale then why not close the area completely. I suppose they just happened to have a hammer, crow bar and hacksaw for unanticipated trip and fall possibilities? Sounds pretty suspect to me.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 04:23pm PT

How is a bolt anchor at the brink of a precipice a "tripping hazard"? People shouldn't be walking that close to the edge, at all. A shrub, a round stone or a squirrel hole would all be equally dangerous, maybe even more dangerous. And, even more obvious, people scaling the upper region of the cliff have more to worry about than "tripping" over TR anchors on the face.

Note to whomever replaces those bolts: Pt. Dume is exactly the type of place where 304 stainless steel bolts are unsuitable. Titanium and glue, baby.

SuperTopo topic: 304 stainless steel bolts near the ocean

SuperTopo topic: using silicone sealant to inhibit corrosion of bolts

I used to hammer two 1/2" galvanized sch 40 steel pipes into the top of seaside cliffs, to form an X for TR and rappel slings. Now THAT is a tripping hazard. But, again, anyone walking one or two feet from the sharp edge of a tall cliff is at risk of tripping and falling, anyway. Maybe the thing to do is hammer 2" sch 40 pipes into the ground for TR/rap anchors, and leave three feet sticking up, for a big WARNING sign. Or make a continuous railing out of the same stuff.

I bet those safety-minded Pt. Dume locals would love that.

One of those chopped bolts looks like someone cut it off with an angle grinder. That same type of portable cutting machine could be used to remove illegally-placed locks and chains on gates that prevent use of public access walkways at Malibu-area beaches.

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2016 - 04:25pm PT

Picture taken for U TOM..

I'll find the YOUTUBE video of the Making of the PLANET OF THE APES..

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 04:31pm PT

Thanks, Pyro, but I already have an entire box-set of blu-ray diskettes, and one of them tells the tale of those Damn Dirty Apes.

I remember going to Pt. Dume Zuma, and seeing where the "archeology cave" scenes were shot. Planet of the Apes was the coolest when I was a kid. The Star Wars of its day, with Barbie-sized monkey dolls and everything.

I think Moses was better than Marky Mark, when dealing with the Monkey Men.

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 20, 2016 - 06:24pm PT

Mynor H. Sosa thank's

Response from California State Parks: Mr. Sosa,

From So Cal Facebook Page.. Jeez!
lol..

Your email to our Sacramento Communications Office on Point Dume Access was forwarded to me for a response. It wasn’t until receipt of your email that the Angeles District-State Parks was made aware of the removal of the top-rope anchors and the closing of unauthorized use trails had occurred. I made an immediate inquiry into this matter and discovered that over this past weekend there was a State Park sponsored Point Dume Volunteer Work Day in which approximately twenty volunteers lead by State Parks staff repaired and brushed system trails, repaired rusted or missing fencing, and added signage to prevent off trail use with the intent to protect the extremely fragile coastal environment. Unfortunately, the over-zealous volunteers and uninformed staff took it upon themselves to remove what they deemed to be tripping hazards. While the anchors are not maintained by State Parks nor condoned it was never managements intention to remove any existing anchors or bolts or actively prohibit climbing activities from the Point Dume.
This issue has been addressed with the employee in question to ensure this sort of action does not occur again. If you have any questions or additional concerns please do not hesitate to contact me.

Craig Sap
District Superintendent
Angeles District
1925 Las Virgenes
Calabasas, CA. 91302
(818) 880-0396 Office
(310) 699-1732 Cell
(818) 880-0359 FAX

So put Em back!

pud

climber

Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia

Jan 20, 2016 - 06:43pm PT

Thanks Skip & Sam.

I'll donate the hardware if anyone here wants to reinstalled the chopped anchors.

Tom

Big Wall climber

San Luis Obispo CA

Jan 20, 2016 - 07:12pm PT

Blessed is the Peace maker, for he makes the peace.

This incident sounds like it's going to have the proverbial Hollywood Ending, after all:

The rusty steel bolts are gone, and they will be replaced by more appropriate titanium goodies.

The State Park staff has been enlightened.

There are now signs and barriers to protect the fragile coastal scrub from being trampled and killed by meandering hordes.

The End.

roll credits

MisterE

Gym climber

Small Town with a Big Back Yard

Jan 20, 2016 - 08:37pm PT

My wife is good people.

Go screw to all the internet haters and trolls.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Shetville , North of Los Angeles

Jan 20, 2016 - 09:40pm PT

Happy Birthday Fattrad...!

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Shetville , North of Los Angeles

Jan 21, 2016 - 06:26am PT

I was clothed , gawking at Medusa soloing 5.12...dudes sack..

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Jan 21, 2016 - 08:27am PT

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Until BOLT REPLACEMENT happens this is the only climbing we get at PT DUME!

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber

Out Of Bed

Jan 21, 2016 - 08:45am PT

At 1:50 In the video above the idjot,boob, grabs and sticks his finger into the one bolt hanger on the left when the obvious holds are the 'eye' bolts, to the right.

overwatch

climber

Jan 21, 2016 - 08:49am PT

crying and complaining the whole time maybe climbing's not for Igor

Hooking his finger through that hanger made me cringe, plus it is a major wuss move

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 06:26am PT

Thank you Katie from access fund..

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 07:22am PT

Skipper will have erik call all his buddies to chime in on this thread thanking them for the HUGE service that they never did..total KOOKS..

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Feb 12, 2016 - 07:23am PT

Dave Katz with GLUE the hell outta that Tar Baby Crap rock..

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 07:46am PT

Dave katz will name s rout after you jeff only IF you give him $$$

pyro

Big Wall climber

Calabasas

Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2016 - 08:26am PT

Rottingjohnny is another KOOK..

+1 medusa..

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Feb 12, 2016 - 09:51am PT

RJ is just bitter that he can't pull a 12+ lol.. were not talking about Dachshunds type things here. ;)

Fish Finder

climber

Feb 12, 2016 - 10:23am PT

jeff and pyro

there are only 2 people on this thread that are acting like kooks

you guys need to escape from your own horrid bubble of animosity towards other

fellow posters

Get out a bit more than just Stoney Point

as a matter of fact you guys should come up and climb with me , rotten J and Eric

jeff constine

Trad climber

Ao Namao

Feb 12, 2016 - 10:25am PT

I don't want RJ any where near or checking out my Balls ;)

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Feb 17, 2016 - 07:07am PT

Update- permission for rebolting the chopped anchors ONLY was given a "YES"

(lead bolts were given a "NO-not ever"). Some locals who live down there are handling it- probably this weekend.

Park service requests that we please stay on established trails and not encourage the splinter trails and cut-throughs that caused the issue.

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

Feb 17, 2016 - 06:09pm PT

I love it. PRK land management 101. Cut it off, fence, it, post it or put up a gate and wait for someone to complain. If it goes long enough without someone noticing, just say "that's the way it's always been".

rlf

Trad climber

Josh, CA

Feb 17, 2016 - 07:40pm PT

Jesus, there's always a handful of shitheads. Leave Skip and Eric alone. She's done nothing wrong. They are both good people. I say thanks to them for putting in their spare time to help the climbing community out. Every little bit counts.

We already got an explanation why this happened. It's over. Go fix it, or shut up.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Shetville , North of Los Angeles

Feb 17, 2016 - 08:26pm PT

Back off Pyro and Jeff...RJ I meant leave Pyro and jeff alone...

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Boulder climber

ne'er–do–well

Feb 17, 2016 - 08:54pm PT

dee ee

Mountain climber

Of THIS World (Planet Earth)

Feb 17, 2016 - 09:05pm PT

Pyro, take your finger out of the hanger.

That can lead to injury.

dpotter05

Sport climber

Los Angeles, CA

Feb 18, 2016 - 12:50am PT

Hi all, Pt. Dume is indeed getting ASCA-supplied titanium glue-ins for TR anchors for both the oceanside and face. I'm coordinating the effort. Message me if you have glue-in experience and are interested in helping.

David

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Shetville , North of Los Angeles

Feb 18, 2016 - 07:51am PT

Locker has glue IN experience...rj

justthemaid

climber

Jim Henson's Basement

Feb 18, 2016 - 07:03pm PT

I said I wouldn't respond but I'm actually quite sick of all the lies.

Ahem.. For the official record. It was another couple that was responsible for that closure... not us.
ALL of Pyro's statements are untrue. We put up ONE route that happened to be in the area and WAS NOT one of the routes that had an endangered species growing on it. It was NOT an entire climbing area.. it was 5 routes that were voluntarily removed from one wall in cooperation with the Park Service to protect the plant. They were very amicable about the situation. Echo Cliffs and the Grotto are still open for climbing. Everyone was content except Pyro who likes to create drama because he's a psycho asshat. He's posted his petty malicious version a million times but it doesn't change reality... other that to all his idiot friends who believe all the crap.

I seriously don't get it. We've done absolutely nothing to deserve all the harassment, bullying and stalking by these two certifiable nutjobs. As far as I can tell... our only crime is an inability to climb 5.12