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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Nov 29, 2015 - 10:25am PT
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Is Tool 'prog rock'?
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Marlow
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OSLO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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Brandon.
Whatever your mind commands... No master, No teacher...
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Nov 29, 2015 - 11:14am PT
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Ryan, that video was awesome on so many levels.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Nov 29, 2015 - 05:21pm PT
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Saw Steve Hackett a few nights ago. Good show, kept occurring to me how he just took his portion of Genesis and kept going with it.
Great encore.
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JOEY.F
Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
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Nov 29, 2015 - 06:48pm PT
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Thanks Marlow. Thank you Cintune.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 29, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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Must have been a great show!
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Jul 29, 2016 - 07:22pm PT
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prog rock is neither!
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overwatch
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Arizona
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Jul 29, 2016 - 07:47pm PT
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I was partners in crime in the mid-to-late eighties with a guy that was a three tour Vietnam veteran SEAL
He was a textbook case with full on flashbacks. Knights( misspelling intentional) in White Satin would send him off, consequently it evokes a pretty strong response in me as well, haven't heard it in a long time
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jul 30, 2016 - 08:18am PT
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Of course when I think of prog rock ELP, Yes, and Rush come to mind. But listen to the 1st Ambrosia album (before they got all sweet and sappy), and of course Kansas!
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Aug 20, 2017 - 09:56am PT
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I was lured to Texas with tales of 600 vinyl albums stashed in the back room of an office in the industrial area of Channelview TX. I flew out and spent 8 hours culling through them and brought over 200 albums home. Included was an album by Oz Knozz, a local group who finagled after hours studio time at the famed Sugarhill recording studio in Houston. I am not a big prog rock fan, but I had to listen to it, I was impressed. Band never really went anywhere, but that album is worth serious coin. I think they still play in the Houston area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7N4DC0wtA&list=PLgV39--p-aAM1IEVOiy0LUJiPD2uex8Hs
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matty
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under the sea
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Aug 20, 2017 - 04:12pm PT
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The latest Steven Wilson album "To The Bone" just came out a few days ago. A bit different than his earlier work...I really like it.
I also just discovered the most recent Neil Morse Band release...awesome
The Similitude Of A Dream
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Aug 21, 2017 - 03:48pm PT
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King Crimson has gone krazy...they are now touring with 4 drummers! Seems a bit lopsided to me.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Aug 21, 2017 - 10:33pm PT
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Mission of Burma, baby! Total opposite of prog. Listen to em LOUD...
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Aug 22, 2017 - 03:12pm PT
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Guitar arrangement is Adrain Belew, vocals courtesy of the " Reverend Prophet Omega!"
"STRETCH OUT!!!"
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Aug 25, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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My son turned me on to Mars Volta, quite a bit of frenetic sound coming from basically a duo. Not to listen to when you are in a mellow mood.
Almost forgot, what about Steve Morse and the Dixie Dregs!
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Aug 25, 2017 - 01:59pm PT
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The Floyd remains my all time fav rock and roll band and I know yall feel that way too.
If you asked me for a short of list of favorite bands, I'm not sure I would put Floyd on it.
But every time I listen to Floyd, I wonder why I don't listen to it more.
For whatever reason, Obscured by Clouds is about the only album of theirs that I will still periodically listen to in its entirety.
I guess The Wall, Dark Side, and the song, Wish You Were Here, got so much radio play back in the day, I never listened to those albums much.
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Brandon-
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The Granite State.
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Aug 25, 2017 - 02:34pm PT
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Going to see 'The Machine' a northeast Pink Floyd cover band tomorrow night, should be fun.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Aug 29, 2017 - 02:46pm PT
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That Deep Purple in Rock was a great lp........
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 14, 2017 - 09:12am PT
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Bryan Ferry's singing and songwriting gave Roxy a lot of its mainstream sex appeal, while Phil Manzanera with his distinctive guitar work, imparted his own special brand of sensuality, psychedelia, and sophistication. Their use of horns and violin also lended an instrumental virtuosity and eclectic flavor, and throughout all of that, they sure could rock!
The above posts from 801 Live, featuring Manzanera, and his solo album Diamond Head, trend more toward our targeted interest here, progressive rock, or prog, (a term coined in the 90s which would seem to be somewhat more restrictive, for progressive rock was initially cast as a pretty wide net). Brian Eno tools up the atmosphere nicely. I always feel I'm in good hands with Bill MacCormick on bass, (featured both on 801 Live and Diamond Head), whose work is reminiscent of John Gustafson from Roxy. And then Phil's work with Quiet Sun, even more so, shows some delightful prog instrumental characteristics.
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Tarbuster
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Sep 14, 2017 - 11:53am PT
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Sewelly said:
I like how prog and fusion jazz and experimental all cross into each other.
Surely they do, and it's rich!
While labels and categories are perhaps best suited to consumers, listeners, and critics, genre delineation is certainly useful when discussing different tastes and indicating preferences. Musicians seem generally to stick to playing music, and they play what they like, if they have the freedom to simply create, and often shun labels as an aspect of that pursuit.
That said, I see Art Rock and Prog Rock as fairly distinct from Jazz Fusion. And it's there in the titles: Progressive Rock is more grounded in rock bass and drumming, while Jazz Fusion is more expressive of variations on traditional jazz time signatures. Largo once said that fusion was jazz played with rock instruments. I don't know how apt that truly is, but I suppose it is poking in the right direction.
To me, Jazz Fusion is typified by the likes of John McLaughlin and Mahavishnu Orchestra, Chick Korea and Return to Forever, Wayne Shorter and Weather Report, Spyro Gyra, Shadowfax, Jean-Luc Ponty, Larry Coryell, Bill Bruford, Jeff Beck, Al Di Meola, Alan Holdsworth, Stanley Clarke, and so forth. The Miles Davis albums In a Silent Way and Bitches Brew are often cited as progenitors of jazz fusion.
Jazz Fusion also feels fairly distinct from Jazz Rock, more closely associated with bands like Blood Sweat and Tears, Chicago, and the like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_fusion
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Here's the only thread which I have found on Jazz Fusion, started by Largo nearly 10 years ago, and it may have suffered from an indistinct title, and the fact that YouTube linking wasn't available:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/823705/Great-Fusion-Music
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Though we have tinkered with some Pat Matheny and Weather Report on the jazz thread, we have for the most part limited our explorations, somewhat naturally and informally, to straight-ahead jazz. Yanqui recently posted a wonderful version of My Favorite Things on the jazz thread, by John McLaughlin, and I think that was correct; more jazz than jazz fusion. It's not so much name association but actual style.
Straight-ahead jazz is a jazz music style from the period between bebop and the 1960s' styles of Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock. It is considered the lingua franca of jam sessions, and can usually be contrasted with smooth jazz. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-ahead_jazz
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I believe Jazz, Jazz Fusion, and Progressive Rock all deserve separate treatments, in order to get the most out of each genre.
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Perhaps Marlow will at some auspicious point start a Jazz Fusion thread for us to play with, sealing up his musical triumvirate!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2017 - 11:26am PT
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Bo Hansson - Leaving Shire - The Old Forest - Fog on the Barrow Downs
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Tarbuster
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Sep 19, 2017 - 10:06am PT
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Yes, Mouse.
I dig soft machine.
Check out one of my recent posts on the jazz thread from them.
That particular post on the jazz thread was almost pure jazz, not progressive, or fusion. They're very eclectic and tend to range about.
Of course, we also love their name source!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Sep 19, 2017 - 12:46pm PT
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Roy, eclecticism is its own reward. It's also a Jeopardy! answer (11-letter words).
I will duly check out the Jazz thread. Thanks.
Now will you explain the name?
I've heard the term on the Grateful Dead's song about the Doodah Man, whatever that one was...something about Houston?
"Prog Rock, Our Most Important Progduck"
--General Eclecktick
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Tarbuster
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Sep 19, 2017 - 01:11pm PT
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Soft Machine are an English rock and jazz band from Canterbury, named after the book The Soft Machine by William S. Burroughs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_Machine
Soft Machine's music has been described by critics and journalists as progressive rock,[5][27][44][45][46] experimental rock,[47][48] jazz rock,[49][50] jazz[5][51] and psychedelic rock,[27] as well as being a part of the Canterbury scene of progressive rock.[5][46] According to Hugh Hopper, "We weren't consciously playing jazz rock, it was more a case of not wanting to sound like other bands; we certainly didn't want a guitarist."[52]
The title The Soft Machine is a name for the human body, and the main theme of the book (as explicitly written in an appendix added to the 1968, British edition) concerns how control mechanisms invade the body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soft_Machine
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Sep 19, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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I love it when you're enlightening.
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marty(r)
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beneath the valley of ultravegans
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Sep 20, 2017 - 11:59am PT
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As someone who grew up in the Pomona Valley I'd be remiss if I didn't put in a plug for all things Djam Karet.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Sep 20, 2017 - 06:11pm PT
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how do people not call it PROCK? I'd think that calls for more self-discipline than most ST posters possess.
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Tarbuster
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Sep 22, 2017 - 10:56am PT
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Listening to Wilbeer's posts of UK, especially on that first cut, In the Dead of the Night, and likewise on Nevermore, heck, on Time to Kill, as well ...
Allan Holdsworth's mellifluous guitar work is immediately recognizable as his own and belonging to no other!
And among Synchronicity's treasure trove of offerings,
Captain Beyond: there is a route on Mickey Mouse Wall outside of Boulder named the same, and I always wondered where that came from …
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Synchronicity
Trad climber
British Columbia, Canada
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Sep 22, 2017 - 04:13pm PT
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Tarbuster, Captain Beyond's self titled debut is among my top 5 albums ever, but I lean towards hard (prog) rock and guitar for my tastes. They were formed from Iron Butterfly members with early Deep Purple Vocalist Rod Evans on the first album, with some lineup changes later on.
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Tarbuster
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Sep 23, 2017 - 09:53am PT
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Now, in the context of this thread, and certainly given the more typical and restricted usage of the term progressive rock, we would probably think of Traffic as something more of a jazz-inflected blues/folk rock band. However, both Wikipedia (top of their genre list) and AllMusic (5 clicks down their genre list) qualify Traffic as progressive.
Anyhoo, along with this wonderful song, feast on the recollection I pulled from a YouTube contributor, concerning an early 1970s psychedelic party!
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First heard this song at a 3 day Halloween party in Chicago, in a 3 story brownstone. Some Hells Angels crashed the party but were fun and shared their experiences with us. Nobody wanted to leave the party so we slept on couches, the floor, etc. Woke up the next morning to find out a girl in a stripper costume had crawled into the blanket with me to get warm. I asked her how she knew she would look good in such a costume and she quietly said "these are my work clothes". The 2nd night the cops showed up on the street below as someone was barfing off the balcony, and we got nervous as we had a lot of weed. However, they were really interested in the cathouse across the street. So here we were, about 25 crazy art college students. I forgot to mention that the glass doorknobs had been removed and "bloody" mannequin hands were put in their place. A full suit of armor greeted people at the door in the darkened hallway with sinister red lights where the eyes would be. There was so much snow on the cars the next morning that the only way I could figure out which one was mine was to clear the snow off the windows and look inside. In which I found a couple making out. I apologized and said "Carry on keeping up your end of the Chicago tradition".
^^^(I took the liberty of cleaning up the author's work in a few minor places, eschewing brackets to preserve the flow)
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The original post (just for reference):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Rso5fDkuJfc
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Tarbuster ,I concur Holdsworth is amazing.
Armeggedon,man was that a great album,SilverTightrope had a lot of play back when,good stuff.
edit.Just want to say I saw that band UK live twice ,in Rochester and in Pittsburgh,within a week,they were Incredible,both shows.
I knew of Bruford,Heard some of Holdsworth ,Wetton, I had thought was great.........but...Who the hell was Eddie Jobson?
I found out,keys and violin,incredible.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Just taking some back a bit.......Bobby Caldwell and Keith Relf,the first song I played on guitar.
Yes it is 84 here ,the new normal.
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Tarbuster
climber
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Good call on Gentle Giant, TTR (Andy)!
Listened to them some BITD, but didn't really know what was representative.
I think your answer, the correct one, to the young woman's query was: "Peter Frampton!". (Mostly adolescent ear candy, as is, admittedly, some of prog).
YES, with their knack for emotive hooks and musical m$ney passages, probably would've worked well enough.
But, Gentle Giant, like Jethro Tull on baroque steroids, with their syncopated, almost dry, atonal (?) phrasings ... You were doomed. Ha ha.
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Psilocyborg
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Oct 14, 2017 - 08:32pm PT
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^^I know that's a ton of videos...but that last one ...that guitarist is just something else man. Check it out
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WyoRockMan
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Grizzlyville, WY
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Oct 14, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
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Primus' latest offering, "The Desaturated Seven" has a ton of Yes, Crimson, Floyd licks in it.
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Tarbuster
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Oct 15, 2017 - 03:25pm PT
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^^^ Love that guy, Les Claypool, essentially the headliner of Primus!
Virtuoso bass player, keen storyteller, and KICKASSS™ humorist. Probably a bit of a control freak too, but odds are good he'd be fun to party with!
Excited to tool through Psilopcyborg offerings after a bit.
(BTW, Who was it that put that Swedish stuff up for about 10 min. yesterday? We need that back! ... some of us Americans don't get out that much ...)
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Tarbuster
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Oct 16, 2017 - 05:56pm PT
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Ho man, that Psychedelic Breakfast guitarist!
Steve Howe, Pete Townsend, little bit of Dickie Betts thrown in there sideways, f*#king Buck Owens, Ritchie Blackmore, (no Roy Buchanan) a little taste of Zappa on the tremolo, and God knows who else but himself, and he be the shitt!
All the rest of them' PsCy cuts = good eatin' and good livin'.
Thread is starting to cook!
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Bringer of War ... Ridley Scott used it in Gladiator, but in pop culture, ELP was there first!
Intricate instrumentals notwithstanding, progressive can be at its best when it goes thematic.
VVV
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Oct 28, 2017 - 04:38pm PT
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BITD, my only association with Primus was the Devil went to Georgia. Sort of strange because I was listening to a lot of similar music.
I discovered Les Claypool when he played at Coachella seven, or so, years ago. I don't think I realized at the time he had been with Primus.
Had another chance to see him at Outside Lands:
King Crimson:
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Pink Floyd:
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Tarbuster
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Oct 29, 2017 - 07:33am PT
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That Claypool Lennon Delirium rendition of Floyd's Astronomy Domine is aural mind-candy!
Some of those power cords from the Geraldine Fibbers band, along with the somewhat plaintive vocal style, reminded me of the surf-punk pop rock crew Weezer, whom I've enjoyed in the past, so I listened to them for a bit, and decided her (Carla Bozulich's) stuff is tinged more with that alt-industrial flavor, when compared to Weezer.
Found it compelling, like a fusion of Weezer and Courtney Love's Grunge band, Hole, so had to read up on the band in Wikipedia:
The Geraldine Fibbers were an alt-country band founded in 1994 by Carla Bozulich. Initially, band members included Bozulich, Daniel Keenan, Julie Fowells, William Tutton and Kevin Fitzgerald.[1] While Bozulich had previously been known for noisy industrial music, The Geraldine Fibbers fused American roots music and blues-influenced punk.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Fibbers
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 1, 2017 - 11:26am PT
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Jethro Tull - My God (Nothing Is Easy; Live At The Isle Of Wight 1970)
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WyoRockMan
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:31pm PT
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I discovered Les Claypool when he played at Coachella seven, or so, years ago. I don't think I realized at the time he had been with Primus.
Welcome to the Les is more program August!
I've probably travelled more miles to see Primus shows than just about anyone and they are always great. Lately, they've really upped the "jam", 4 minute songs are now 11 minutes...
with Jay Lane on drums, he was the original Primus drummer. Now plays with Rat Dog (Bob Weir/Rob Wasserman)
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Les's Oysterhead with Trey Anastasio and Stuart Copeland was a great group.
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Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains is another of my favorite lineups.
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Sausage probably has Les' best bass work of any project, IMO.
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Other solo albums (Of Whales and Woe, Of Fungi and Foe, etc), The Frog Brigade albums (including an entire disc of Floyd covers),
it's a long rabbit hole with Mr. Claypool.
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Tarbuster
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May 11, 2018 - 05:39pm PT
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Damn if I didn't have to go and look that one up, Marlow!
The band writes what they call "endtime ballads,"[7] signifying both the slightly macabre nature of their songs and their unusual blend of styles as the final evolution in music. This blend has led to them being called everything from stoner-prog to freak-folk to doom.[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crippled_Black_Phoenix
Listening to music, reading, writing, and conversing with people really keeps me going.
Thanks!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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May 12, 2018 - 09:30am PT
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That Wilson dude is all over this great thread.....good stuff,[Click to View YouTube Video]
One of my all time favorites!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 25, 2018 - 10:45am PT
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Rock'n Roll history: Pink Floyd - The Story of "Wish You Were Here"
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 17, 2018 - 09:51am PT
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Been on a Rush resurgence of late....
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Was very sorry to learn Neil Peart had retired a year ago due to persistent tendonitis issues. This man...this band... is truly a powerful work of art.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 17, 2018 - 10:33am PT
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Yeah, bummer for Neil.
I suffer from multiple tendinopathies, which have rendered me, for all intents and purposes in the physical realm, little more than a simple house cat.
When watching musicians as a matter of course routinely engaging in extreme acts of repetitive dexterity, I've often empathized and wondered whether that could cook their tendons!
I've sometimes found the themes of Rush to be somewhat adolescent and storybook, but readily admit to enjoying their music!
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Tarbuster
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Dec 22, 2018 - 07:30am PT
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Rush – A Farewell to Kings
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Closer to the Heart
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Rush's Geddy Lee on his obsession with the history of the bass guitar
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Geddy Lee's Big Beautiful Book of Bass
Geddy Lee is the vocalist, bassist, and keyboard player for the Hall of Fame rock group Rush, with drummer Neil Peart and guitarist Alex Lifeson. The most successful Canadian music group in history, Rush is only third behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the most consecutive gold or platinum albums sold by a rock band, and has performed before millions of fans around the world. Ranked by Rolling Stone as among the top bassists of all-time, Rush's energetic frontman has long been acclaimed for his wizard-like musical talent and mesmerizing performances. Geddy lives in Toronto, Canada.
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Tarbuster
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Dec 26, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
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Yeah, all three of those were good.
Going straight to YouTube for the more offbeat stuff is a good way to find out about more of it from other bands!
Concerning the third band in Jonny's linkup, Enneagram: that's a personality exploration and self-development tool grafted from the teachings of mystic philosopher and spiritual teacher Gurdjieff, in turn developed from his connection with Sufism, a form of Islamic mysticism. (I'm and eight on the Enneagram scale, for what it's worth.)
Those Prog guys often tilt at the windmills of fantasy and mysticism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gurdjieff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enneagram_of_Personality
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Tarbuster
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Dec 26, 2018 - 06:07pm PT
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Ha ha. The Gizmos.
Yes, Punk among other things, was a response to the excesses of progressive rock.
Definitely works as a palate cleanser after listening to too much indulgent instrumental noodling!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 16, 2019 - 02:01pm PT
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Tres sympa...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jan 16, 2019 - 02:25pm PT
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And ,then there is Canada’s number three band,at least when I was growing up.
I saw these guys when I was 14, in a park in Perth ,Ontario.
They were good indeed. [Click to View YouTube Video]
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apogee
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"I've sometimes found the themes of Rush to be somewhat adolescent and storybook..."
I think I first became exposed to Rush when I was about 14...'Hemispheres' was the first album I delved into...they had such a powerful sound, and the Hemispheres theme was artfully intriguing to an adolescent mind that was mostly listening to harder rock at that time.
As my musical interests expanded, Rush made a good bridge to Progressive Rock, which also became a mainstay of my music history. Complexity became much more intriguing than the simple, pounding rhythms of Zeppelin and other such classic radio hard rock.
And then Rush kinda faded back, as my musical interests went beyond Prog Rock into the 80's- some of which was fluffy pop new wave...but more of which was more avant garde, and beyond. Rush was an important starting point for all of this growth.
As mentioned, I've been on a Rush resurgence in the last few months- they come up regularly in my Pandora shuffle. I've thought about Tarbuster's comment (above), and retrospectively, I have to agree- I'm not sure Rush squarely fits into the 'Progressive' mold, as so much of their music is thematic and storytelling. Likewise, they don't really fit squarely into the 'Hard Rock' mold either, as the rhythms are more complex, and lyrics thoughtful and ethereal. They are a pretty good bridge between the two, though.
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L.A. Woman
Social climber
Buggerville
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Aloha TB
V here. Can you please have the Moon Fuzz contact Dave Robinson? Not sure the PM works. THX
E has his # if needed. Mahalo
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Tarbuster
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Just e-mailed Mr. Munoz per your request, Vikki.
Yes, the member to member function here is basically dead.
Dave Robinson = Rubber Maiden, correct?
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Tarbuster
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apogee: be sure to check out the upthread interview with Geddy Lee!
I found that I really like him and appreciated his enthusiasm.
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WyoRockMan
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Grizzlyville, WY
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Feb 14, 2019 - 09:25pm PT
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This track came out today. These two are full-on.
Each third of the song its own thing, all braided together.
Their sophomore album is coming out next week.
The first, Monolith of Phobos, was fantastic.
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Tarbuster
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Feb 16, 2019 - 04:31pm PT
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Climbed a route called KINGS X in Eldorado Canyon with Mark Chapman in the early 90s.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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I've always liked Mastodon.
Tool 4 desert.
21st century schizoid man.
Blew my mind.
King Crimson for sure.
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Minerals
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The Deli
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Climbed a route called KINGS X in Eldorado Canyon...
Curious if you know who put the route up, Tarbuster.
This is where I got the name for the variation that we did on Yosemite Falls Wall in ’99 - Summerland.
1989
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dUg’s screams are awesome. Seen them live a couple of times, and he was playing an eight-string bass, with the signal split between a clean tone and a dirty tone. Great sound.
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Tarbuster
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King's X, 5.10d S/VS (that means it's dangerous)
FA: Layton Kor & Larry Dalke, 1967. FFA: Ron Cox & Paul Sibley, 1971.
The route Chapman and I climbed (1990, his lead, to the right of King's X), was called Diffraction, 5.10a s and literally had cobwebs in it!
I never did it again. I've done many Eldo routes three times over, including King's X. It's actually quite good.
Mark and I also climbed Balls of Fire that year, 5.10c vs (basically means no falling allowed, my lead), to the left of King's X and that was a wild ride!
Anecdotally, I also know Paul Sibley very well and rented shop space on his property for 10 years, just outside of Eldorado Canyon.
Wikipedia says the band King's X originated in 1979.
So now we ask, what is the origin of the name? I'm guessing Kor/Dalke were referencing something literary?
Regarding the band's name:
While in Houston, the group met Sam Taylor, then vice president of ZZ Top's production company. Taylor quickly became interested in the trio and convinced them to change their name to King's X. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_X
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King’s X is a term used by schoolchildren to indicate a brief break from a game, known as a truce term. Usually, the cry King’s X is accompanied by the gesture of crossing one’s fingers. The Oxford English Dictionary cites this gesture as the origin of the term King’s X, though it may also be linked to the King’s Mark. This was a seal affixed to documents, including documents guaranteeing safe passage or other favors to subjects carrying it. https://grammarist.com/usage/kings-x/
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Minerals
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The Deli
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Mar 17, 2019 - 06:44pm PT
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Ah, so the route wasn’t named after the band. Got it. My only other thought was to ask if Kor or Dalke were religious (i.e. Kings 10), but what you found on grammarist.com probably makes more sense.
(Umm, in my last post, Queensryche isn’t rap. Looks like YouTube has a glitch. Maybe it will be corrected...)
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Tarbuster
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Mar 17, 2019 - 07:19pm PT
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Of course we could outright just contact Pat Ament via Facebook and ask, but ...
I'm going to go with your biblical allusion, Minerals.
So how long has "going for the gold" been in colloquial use by climbers?
And the double entendre would also be confirmed because the architecture of the climb is notable in that it climbs through a giant X shaped structure on the South face of Wind Tower.
The Queen of Sheba Visits Solomon
10 When the queen of Sheba heard about the fame of Solomon and his relationship to the Lord, she came to test Solomon with hard questions. 2 Arriving at Jerusalem with a very great caravan—with camels carrying spices, large quantities of gold, and precious stones—she came to Solomon and talked with him about all that she had on her mind. 3 Solomon answered all her questions; nothing was too hard for the king to explain to her. 4 When the queen of Sheba saw all the wisdom of Solomon and the palace he had built, 5 the food on his table, the seating of his officials, the attending servants in their robes, his cupbearers, and the burnt offerings he made at[a] the temple of the Lord, she was overwhelmed.
6 She said to the king, “The report I heard in my own country about your achievements and your wisdom is true. 7 But I did not believe these things until I came and saw with my own eyes. Indeed, not even half was told me; in wisdom and wealth you have far exceeded the report I heard. 8 How happy your people must be! How happy your officials, who continually stand before you and hear your wisdom! 9 Praise be to the Lord your God, who has delighted in you and placed you on the throne of Israel. Because of the Lord’s eternal love for Israel, he has made you king to maintain justice and righteousness.”
10 And she gave the king 120 talents of gold, large quantities of spices, and precious stones. Never again were so many spices brought in as those the queen of Sheba gave to King Solomon.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Kings+10&version=NIV
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Tarbuster
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Apr 21, 2019 - 09:16pm PT
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I find this to be beautiful music. These people were not f*#king around!
Fotheringay Live at The Beat Club 1970:
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
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Out Of Bed
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Apr 26, 2019 - 06:49pm PT
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Prog? what means this
wajunwanna do rock ?
for the love of aNARCHY
fREEDOM nOW pOST YOUR VIOLATIONS TO THE nORM
nORM ? WHAT mEANS tHAT?
This is different, it seems excessive if not aggressive
Frankie and the Witch Fingers - I Am Underneath You (No pun intended)
https://youtu.be/XJyfSUYApb4
whatever THAT WAS??
This next [-Link-]
Is more Like what was posted & I Like, It is listenable to too 2
The Jimmy Herring Band plays Matt (Slocum)'s Funk at The Miraverse, Pittsboro NC, 8/18/12
https://youtu.be/Fau1dnLWTLA
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Tarbuster
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After a lengthy intro of still photographs, this develops into excellent live footage, with pretty darned good audio:
Deep Purple - 1969 Concerto with Royal Philarmonic Orchestra
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Tarbuster,man, I just watched and listened to that “The Deep Purple” at Albert Hall.
I know I had heard some of it before,maybe on the BBC music hour in the past ,or maybe there is an album, but that video is stunning,audio as well.
I remember sitting on the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium’s front steps in 73 during a sold out show , listening to the the Purple’s monstrous beat, only to get let in for the encore “Child in Time”.
Never to see them again till the reunion of “Perfect Strangers”.
Much more of a band than Smoke on the Water,truly progressive.
Thanks.
Ian Paice with the cowbell.....1969.
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