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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 11, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
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"Show support for moving from a two party system."
This is a really rotten time to be making such a statement.
Edit:
"Someone like Sanders in the WH?"
Anyone who thinks that any candidate (Stein, Sanders, whatever) could get into the WH without beholding to some kind of special interest $$ ('Establishment') needs to get their head examined, learn about the political process, or both.
"What can be done?"
It's about the $$. Take the $$ out of the process, and change will probably start to happen.
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TradEddie
Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 11, 2016 - 02:32pm PT
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you know, a lot of people do not realize just what the Libertarian Party stands for
It stands for legalizing pot, right dude? Few, even the "Libertarians" on this site have thought through the rest of the LP platform. I bet the armchair libertarians would be up in arms (newly legalized fully automatic arms) if the LP came to power and privatized Yosemite or Yellowstone, or for that matter, sold off the public road to their home.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:05pm PT
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This is scary -- Ginsburg just gave me a reason to vote for Trump. She says if he wins, it's time to move to New Zealand. While that's an insufficient reason to vote for an egomaniacal disaster-in-the-making, getting Ginsburg off the court would not be a bad thing.
John, I'm not clear on your reasoning. How does a vote, or even the election, of Trump do anything towards getting Ginsburg off the court?
I would think that she would rebel at the thought of him replacing her, and stay out of spite.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:10pm PT
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“I can’t imagine what this place would be ― I can’t imagine what the country would be ― with Donald Trump as our president. For the country, it could be four years. For the court, it could be ― I don’t even want to contemplate that.”
I think she is the best SCOTUS on the court, and agree with her,
so just another thing me and John disagree on.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:53pm PT
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From Dirt's link:
One of my best friends tells me he will not vote this year. He hates Hillary Clinton, and he hates Donald Trump even more.
"I hope to be in the woods hunting," he tells me.
This election is close enough for me to lose sleep, so part of me wants to strangle him. The outcome could hinge on how millions of people like him sort through their competing dislikes.
I get where he's coming from. Pulling the lever this November will bring no joy to me.
But I keep thinking about the mopes on the left who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 because they couldn't stand Al Gore.
That tipped the outcome in Florida, handing the presidency to George W. Bush, who gave us the Iraq war, tax cuts for the rich, and a return of massive deficits. Thanks, Ralph.
I think about the Bernie Sanders supporter I spoke to when Clinton came to Newark in June. He said he'd never vote for her, even against Trump.
"She's just the lesser of two evils," he said.
Well, yeah. But isn't that better than the greater of two evils?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 03:55pm PT
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I think she is the best SCOTUS on the court, and agree with her,
so just another thing me and John disagree on.
Actually, I agree with John in the inappropriateness of the COMMENT. It gives the impression that she could not be impartial in some cases, and that is not good for our Justices.
I disagree with his solution.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 11, 2016 - 04:27pm PT
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You folks are worried over nothing.
The closest Trump is going to get to the WH is being jockeyed by on the beltway.
It is going to be fun mocking you part time liberals for 4-8 years.
She is going to show us all the way.
To Syria,maybe even N. Korea.More Fracking.
You think there is discontent in this country right now,get used to it.
Let's see how fast she strays from her own parties platform.
Paid troll response herevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvlol.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 11, 2016 - 04:38pm PT
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One of my best friends tells me he will not vote this year.
Good. That means my vote counts even more.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
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It is going to be fun mocking you part time liberals for 4-8 years.
Well, look who is playing the purity card.
I guess your poop don't stink!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 11, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
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"Hillary actually represents the democratic party."
Yep,exactly .lol.
http://uspolitics24.com/1340-2/
Righteous indeed DB,I will remind everyone of you ,You will not have berners to blame either.
edit ;Have to say"Both are unpopular,only one is a threat"
Best slogan yet no doubt.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2016 - 06:42pm PT
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Member profile information for Klimmer is shown below. This member's account has been deactivated.
What happened?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 11, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
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I didn't know I was in such danger from those OTHERS that want to oppress me!!!
I thought all these years that being a Straight Hetero, White Male, Chistin that I was especially privileged and not really oppressed at all compared to the others, but I was sooo wrong..!!
Savage: 'Straight, Heterosexual, White, Male, Christian' Is The 'Most Oppressed Member Of Society'
7/11/16 @ 2:55pm
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/
Last week, talk radio host Michael Savage continued his attacks on former Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson for filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against Roger Ailes, the network’s CEO.
He compared defendants in sexual harassment lawsuits to the dissidents who have been persecuted in communist countries like North Korea and mocked “the myth” of “the poor, downtrodden woman” in America.
“What’s this nonsense about ‘oppressed this, oppressed that’?” Savage said on his program on Wednesday. “The most oppressed member of society, as I’ve said before and I’m willing to stand by this again: The most ridiculed, the most oppressed member of society today is the straight, heterosexual, white, male Christian. Period.”
Which right wing media talking head isn't a complete lying tool?
They all spew 99% BS.
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 07:44pm PT
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Savage is a racist idiot.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 11, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
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"Member profile information for Klimmer is shown below. This member's account has been deactivated."
Wow. Just wow.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 11, 2016 - 07:48pm PT
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vvv
No
apparently a purge of some sort has been going on
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dirtbag
climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
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It is possible he asked to be nuked.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jul 11, 2016 - 08:08pm PT
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Not the work of a mere mortal, only G-d could nuke Klimmer the Klown
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 11, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
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don't know but perhaps he was seen as excessively polarizing ...eliciting inappropriate responses.....
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
La Mancha
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Jul 11, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
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I doubt the polarizing angle, because just about everyone on the OT politard threads would be nuked too. I don't think he bailed on his own because he'll want to let us know how righteous he is when Trump-god wins.
Wish C-mac would give us a clue.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jul 11, 2016 - 08:56pm PT
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Klimmer was a simple troll, throwing incendiary comments just to offend people and outrage them.
He happened to take the conservative side, but I'd say the same about a liberal. ANY troll damages a site and a discussion.
There is nothing wrong about expressing the conservative viewpoint, and I've actually learned a lot from John E's thoughtful posts, and wish there were more.
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