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HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
Jorroh- You are correct, sir.



Apparently there is a rumor at CPAC that Herman Cain is being vetted for a Trump VP pick



I'm pretty sure that would cause some sort of amazing supernova that would kill everything in the galaxy but it would be beautiful to watch.


Awwwwww shucky ducky!!!
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 2, 2016 - 05:30pm PT
“This party does not prey on people’s prejudices,”

No, it doesn't prey on people's prejudices, rather it has banked on them for the past fifty years. Unfortunately, every year for fifty years they've had to up the volume on the hate and bigotry to keep it effective as the last election cycle and now it's finally come home to roost.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Mar 2, 2016 - 11:02pm PT
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 05:52am PT
In case you are still someone pretending that FOX even attempts to be neutral:

Fox News is reportedly dumping Marco Rubio

Marco Rubio's path to the Republican presidential nomination just got a little narrower, as Fox News employees and guests have been instructed to stop giving the freshman senator favorable coverage, says New York's Gabriel Sherman, citing "three Fox sources." Sherman, who wrote a book about Fox News and its boss, Roger Ailes, quotes Ailes as telling a Fox host recently: "We're finished with Rubio.... We can't do the Rubio thing anymore."

The reasons, Sherman says, include Ailes' waning confidence in Rubio's electoral prospects, tension with Rubio antagonists like Sean Hannity, and, most proximately, an article in The New York Times this week detailing a private 2013 dinner at which Rubio persuaded Ailes to back his "Gang of 8" immigration bill. "Roger hates seeing his name in print," a longtime Ailes associate told Sherman. "He was appalled the dinner was reported." The Fox News chief is now searching for a new candidate to champion, Sherman said; read his entire report at New York. -Peter Weber


healyje posted
Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people.

Americans!


High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 3, 2016 - 06:43am PT
Can someone explain something to me.

Why do states like CA and NY CONTINUE TO sit on the sidelines and let other (less influential, arguably less progressive?) states like IA, SC and NH determine our country's party nominations? cycle after cycle too.

I don't get it.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 06:50am PT
Trump released a 7 point healthcare plan yesterday, responding to scrutiny that his earlier plan was to "repeal Obamacare" and "allow insurance to work across state lines" which coupled with tort reform make up the Vacuous Triad of conservative healthcare policy orthodoxy. So what does Trumpcare look like?

1. He allows insurers to deny coverage to sick people (again). That's 60 million people who could potentially lose coverage.
2. He allows insurers to charge sick people more for coverage (again).
3. Turn Medicaid into block grants. This would essentially shift the bulk of future healthcare costs to the states and ration care for Medicaid recipients.
4. He would allow people to deduct their health insurance premiums on their taxes. This would primarily help people who make good money, have good insurance and aren't sick.
5. Health Savings Accounts will be able to be passed on, tax free, as part of a person's estate. Under current law your spouse can use it but otherwise it becomes part of your estate and passes on under estate law. So this would basically just help people rich enough to get hit with estate taxes.

So essentially we would go back to the old system but with higher tax deductions that largely affect wealthy people and far less robust coverage for the poorest, especially children who are the primary recipients of Medicaid.



HFCS posted

Why do states like CA and NY CONTINUE TO sit on the sidelines and let other (less influential, arguably less progressive?) states like IA, SC and NH determine our country's party nominations? cycle after cycle too.

Because we have FITN primary in our state constitution. Come at us, broj.

Having less progressive states go first (though you'd have a hard time arguing that NH democrats aren't very progressive) is actually a good thing from the candidate vetting side. If you set up the system to churn out unelectable left wing nominees you're going to lose a lot of general elections.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 3, 2016 - 07:02am PT
Romney takes the helm of the establishment's take-down of Donald later this morning. Too little, too late, in my view. Unless the media quits giving him free time and starts honestly vetting him, he's got the nomination.

Hey Mitt, remember this?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 07:14am PT

I dunno how I missed this before. Strong defense, Carson. We all look forward to your next book which I am sure your campaign was not pre-printing promotional tour for at all.


HFCS posted
Okay, hddj, thanks. I'll research it.

I'm not at all saying the way it works now is the best way, it's just the way it is. Having larger states go first would also have big drawbacks. There's really no perfect system.



Frequent Republican blowhard Ben Stein, who has not that long ago stated that Clinton was completely worthless, is strongly considering supporting her candidacy because Trump is so bad.

Pyro is right, liberal heads are going to explode because there are Republican refugees flooding across the borders. Good thing we don't believe in building walls.



Trump University is turning up solid gold Trump Treatises: http://web.archive.org/web/20061207071233/http://donaldtrump.trumpuniversity.com/default.asp?item=98255

Outsourcing Creates Jobs in the Long Run

by Donald J. Trump
Chairman, Trump University


We hear terrible things about outsourcing jobs--how sending work outside of our companies is contributing to the demise of American businesses. But in this instance I have to take the unpopular stance that it is not always a terrible thing.

I understand that outsourcing means that employees lose jobs. Because work is often outsourced to other countries, it means Americans lose jobs. In other cases, nonunion employees get the work. Losing jobs is never a good thing, but we have to look at the bigger picture.

Last year, Nobel Prize-winning economist Dr. Lawrence R. Klein, the founder of Wharton Econometric Forecasting Associates, co-authored a study that showed how global outsourcing actually creates more jobs and increases wages, at least for IT workers. The study found that outsourcing helped companies be more competitive and more productive. That means they make more money, which means they funnel more into the economy, thereby, creating more jobs.

I know that doesn't make it any easier for people whose jobs have been outsourced overseas, but if a company's only means of survival is by farming jobs outside its walls, then sometimes it's a necessary step. The other option might be to close its doors for good.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 3, 2016 - 07:54am PT
"From time to time in the following years, other states have tried to jump before New Hampshire only to discover that New Hampshire law says:"

“The presidential primary election shall be held on the second Tuesday in March or on a Tuesday selected by the secretary of state which is 7 days or more immediately preceding the date on which any other state shall hold a similar election, whichever is earlier, of each year when a president of the United States is to be elected or the year previous...”

"The fact of the matter is that after all these years, the voters of New Hampshire really care about their primary. They like the attention, the visibility and the economic stimulus that it brings every four years. Unlike voters in any other state, the voters of New Hampshire expect their politicians to protect their first in the nation status. And they do. The last time New Hampshire’s status was challenged was 2008, when Florida and Michigan tried to go early. Both political parties punished them. As so New Hampshire’s status lives on."

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2016/02/05-new-hampshire-primary-kamarck
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 07:59am PT
And you'd need Jeb Bush money or Donald Trump crazy to even try. People complain about NH not being racially diverse enough but I honestly think it would be easier to get more non-whites to move to NH than it would be to change the primary system.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 10:22am PT
Dirt- Why do you keep deleting your posts?
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 3, 2016 - 11:25am PT
Dirt- Why do you keep deleting your posts?


I'll answer that.... he is a dishonest troll... thats the only reason to remove something you posted. Unless you leave a EDIT notice. EG "I removed my stupid post"


HDDJ.... as soon as you see a post, copy it and post it, then it can't be deleted....


the horror
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 3, 2016 - 11:28am PT
fwiw, I deleted a couple of my posts.
Because I didn't want to participate in this morning's
silliness.

But that was this morn. It's almost noon now and
I'm in a different mood.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 3, 2016 - 11:36am PT
'll answer that.... he is a dishonest troll... thats the only reason to remove something you posted. Unless you leave a EDIT notice. EG "I removed my stupid post"

It wasn't me. I posted something on another thread earlier that was half baked and deleted it immediately. I don't remember deleting anything here.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 3, 2016 - 11:53am PT
Guyman there quite a few troll poster cowrds who do that erase sh#t..
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 3, 2016 - 12:16pm PT
Dirt.... I apologize, if I made a mistake... why did HDDJ call you out???

this place is getting sort of extra crazy lately.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 12:28pm PT
I thought there was a dirt post I responded to but maybe I'm crazy. HFCS never delete your posts, dude! POSTCOUNT IS EVERYTHING. NEVER STOP POSTING
dirtbag

climber
Mar 3, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
No worries, everyone. :-)

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 3, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
CPAC was amazing today and if you haven't been following it you are literally Hitler.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 3, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
this place is getting sort of extra crazy lately.

I think its an invasion of Trumpism -- the only proper response to criticism is insult. Facts have no place in a Trump debate.

John
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