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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Feb 23, 2016 - 08:13am PT
I think if Trump becomes president then Trump will likely choose Rubio for V.P.. Then Trump will set up Rubio's for his Presidency position..
perfect match old business dude with a young senator ready to spread his wings..
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 23, 2016 - 08:16am PT
Pyro
Do you support Rubio's stance on Abortion
Where it will be even illegal for cases of rape or incest?
I guess you do.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2016 - 08:52am PT
Dingus: Again, the information you describe would need to be turned over to the government if they served a warrant. We're not talking about bad guys stealing information (like the Target case), we're talking the government lawfully and publicly seeking data in the investigation of a capital crime.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2016 - 09:34am PT
The New York Times reports that, despite Trump's claims, they are having a hard time finding evidence that he is a the influential power broker and developer that he claims to be.

The major banks, for their part, say they are leery of lending to him after having lost millions of dollars on past deals. Lawyers and contractors he has hired in the past say he is slow to pay his bills, and often shortchanges them. Even the few Wall Street executives who say privately that he is a friend are loath to speak publicly about him.


In honor of Black History Month, Ben Carson has decided that Obama isn't really black. Presumably because he never stabbed anybody.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Feb 23, 2016 - 10:54am PT
Pyro
Do you support Rubio's stance on Abortion
Where it will be even illegal for cases of rape or incest?
I guess you do.

Craig the abortion thing is a no brainer maybe TRUMP will have to train RUBIO..
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 23, 2016 - 11:01am PT
As in it's a no brainer that all Republicans want to abolish abortion
and you are right there with them?

And you must want to abolish Social Security and Medicare as well.
Hope you're saving for your retirement?
Don't put it all in stocks though, the Republicans plan on another crash soon.

do you really know what you're voting for?
Thought not


Donald Trump, Crony Capitalist

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/opinion/campaign-stops/donald-trump-crony-capitalist.html?action=click&contentCollection=Politics&module=MostPopularFB&version=Full®ion=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article

With the pretense of defending free markets, the Republican Party consistently supported big business. When did any Republican presidential candidate — other than Mr. Trump — speak in favor of some antitrust enforcement? When did he campaign for tougher enforcement against white-collar crime? When did anyone call for free trade in pharmaceuticals? Or for more competitive pricing of drugs bought by Medicare?

The forced identification between the interest of markets and that of business practiced by the Republican establishment in the last 30 years made it easier for Republican voters to fall for Mr. Trump, a businessman who pretends to uphold free-market principles.

It is an indication of a country’s institutional corruption when inside a main party the only alternative to the prevailing crony capitalism is a tycoon with a long history of shady deals.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 06:06am PT
I have that article on my reading list, Craig. The hypocrisy is amazing.

A portrait of Frank Underwood is now hanging in the National Portrait Gallery among the real Presidents.

Trump won the Nevada Caucus handily though [url="hhttp://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2016/02/23/nevada-gop-caucus-looks-like-voter-fraud-bonanza/"]reports of impropriety[/url] were posted across social media. The Nevada GOP has contradicted many of these complaints (for instance, poll workers ARE allowed to wear campaign-specific clothing).


Here's an interesting column talking about where the Sanders and Trump campaigns are appealing to people in similar ways. A larger number of people are coming out saying that if they can't vote for one they will vote for another, which is pretty interesting.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 24, 2016 - 06:56am PT
In honor of Black History Month, Ben Carson has decided that Obama isn't really black. Presumably because he never stabbed anybody.

Or maybe it's because Obama doesn't have African-American roots.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 08:07am PT
EdwardT posted
Or maybe it's because Obama doesn't have African-American roots.

Please explain. Use as much rope as you need.
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Feb 24, 2016 - 08:15am PT
^^^^^He means that he has roots in Kenya.

Don't forget, we are talking about Dr. Carson's view here.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 10:20am PT
White people defining blackness in this thread.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 24, 2016 - 11:00am PT
Please explain. Use as much rope as you need.

A hanging idiom in a race reference?
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 24, 2016 - 11:53am PT
Please explain. Use as much rope as you need.

Really? You don't see it?

Neither parent was African-American. As far as I know, none of his ancestors were African-American.

Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Feb 24, 2016 - 01:10pm PT
Neither parent was African-American. As far as I know, none of his ancestors were African-American.


One parent=African
One parent=American

How more African-American can you get??????


Also, I just read Obama's book Dreams From My Father, and there is no doubt that he had an African-American experience growing up.
August West

Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
Feb 24, 2016 - 03:00pm PT

At least the GOP has a spectrum of choices this time around. A sort of survival of the politically fittest, winnowing out the losers and the weak. Like Bush III, for example.

Anyway, yep, its easy to chuckle at their antics.

But then I look at the democratic 'field of two' and I'm like, jesus f*#king christ those aren't any choices at all! That's the best the democrats can do? I don't laugh at the democratic candidates, rather, I shudder.

So as a R voter you can waste your vote on a Jeb!!! or a Carson and that makes things better how? With a winner take all it does no good to have a bunch of people running that have no chance.

Give the Dems credit, they didn't need their head handed to them on a plate to figure out they had no chance...
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 03:23pm PT
Ben Carson is about to blow, yo! Sh#t is getting real in the Carson campaign!!!

Ben Carson Predicts A “Major Shift” Of Support To His Campaign “Very Soon”

Dr. Ben Carson, who has performed poorly in the first three Republican presidential nominating contests, says a groundswell of support will soon head towards his candidacy.

“This is a very unusual election, and I think all the traditional rules are out the door,” Carson told radio host David Webb on SiriusXM on Tuesday evening. “I do believe that the American people will very soon become very interested in the issues and the solutions, and when that happens you’re gonna see a major shift.”

Carson finished a distant fourth in the Nevada caucus on Tuesday, with under 5% of the vote.

Ed posted
Neither parent was African-American. As far as I know, none of his ancestors were African-American.

Like I said, white people defining blackness in this thread.

Brandon posted
A hanging idiom in a race reference?

For him to hang himself with, yes.

Dingus posted
At least the GOP has a spectrum of choices this time around. A sort of survival of the politically fittest, winnowing out the losers and the weak. Like Bush III, for example.

Can you really call 11 people saying different versions of the same thing a "spectrum?" Ok, 9 people plus Bush and Kasich.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Feb 24, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
A Probably what bugs me most is how few people identify their personal views on a spectrum of issues and then indicate how their preferred candidate or party best satisfies those.

I would have more respect for different opinions if someone wanted a different candidate than me because they fundamentally believe in a different desired outcome. But it seems the source of disagreement is most often a difference in perception of what will happen as a result of specific actions. That triggers me into logic/rational mode of trying to justify what I perceive as cause and effect, but this line of conversation is rarely effective in changing positions because we all seem to be entrenched in our own versions of what we see as cause and effect.

It's not quite as clear cut as physics where we can in a short term do an experiment to prove a cause and effect relationship (e.g. "When I drop this ball it will go down" "no it will go up!" "Ok, let's test it"), but we all trust our own intuition enough that it is maddening to have an intention of showing someone else what we perceive as the light, the logical interpretation.

I think I get more frustrated because these differences shouldn't be as substantial as they seem to be... It's not like we're talking "cake is good" "no cake is bad" where it's a personal choice or preference. We are talking about concepts where there is enough real-world data to make evidence-based decisions about what actions will lead to which outcomes (at least in a big-picture way). But somehow we don't embrace this logical approach, and instead try to twist interpretations to meet our preconceived notions. I wish it weren't so.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 24, 2016 - 04:47pm PT
I can appreciate where you're coming from, NutAgain. The issue though is not that we disagree on whether or not cake is good or bad, we agree for instance that everyone being employed is a good thing, Where we disagree is that liberals tend to believe the system is rigged against certain types of people finding gainful employment that supports them and conservatives believing that if they can't find such employment they don't deserve it. It's the methods we disagree on mostly.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2016 - 08:04am PT
Republicans struggle to plan for the potential that a President Trump would not share their conservative agenda.

Speaker Paul D. Ryan, chairman of the Republican National Convention, recent vice-presidential candidate and the highest elected Republican in the country, has one goal for this year: to form a conservative policy agenda for the Republican presidential nominee to embrace.

If that nominee is Donald J. Trump, that may be a waste of time.

Panicked Republicans question whether Mr. Trump will be able to unite a Republican-controlled Congress that would normally be expected to promote and promulgate his agenda, an internal crisis nearly unheard-of in a generation of American politics. On nearly every significant issue, Mr. Trump stands in opposition to Republican orthodoxy and his party’s policy prescriptions — the very ideas that Mr. Ryan has done more than anyone else to form, refine or promote over the last decade.

If the billionaire New York businessman captures his party’s nomination — which seemed increasingly possible after a decisive victory in Nevada on Tuesday night — he will become the titular head of the Republican Party, and lawmakers like Mr. Ryan will be expected to fall in line for the balance of the campaign. It is something that many in the party think may be impossible.

Recent polling from two different sources plus exit polls reveal that 20% of Trump supporters believe that freeing the slaves was a bad idea, 70% of Trump voters in S. Carolina believe that the Confederate Flag should still be flying over the state capital and 33% believe that Japanese internment camps where a good idea.

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 25, 2016 - 09:26am PT
FiveThirtyEight has a great article on how Rubio still has a shot at the Republican nomination. It's really worth a read for some wonky information on how all districts and all states are not created equal.
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