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john hansen

climber
Nov 23, 2015 - 09:52pm PT
I think all of these people are not saying don't do it,

Just saying ,you should really know what you could be in for.

the 7000 ft peak on a perfect day is a good analogy.

You never know when a squall can build up.

With only one person on board and the wrong wind , the bow can go over a wave and get blown over backwards, lots of sail area..

Another boat with you would be a good way to go.

Stay safe.

Aloha
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 23, 2015 - 10:11pm PT
SGropp, great story!

I learned to sail cats on Lake Michigan just north of Chicago. The waves there rebound off the bottom end of the lake and opposite shores and often end up in a nasty X pattern. Sometimes those rebounding waves cross at 90 degrees creating square holes in the water and they can be quite deep on big days. Worse, they're really hard to spot from the tramp on a cat until you're pitch-poling down into one. Then it's like the lake has all of a sudden disappeared out from underneath you.

Last time I can remember it happening I'd taken a new girlfriend out for the first time with lunch and a bottle of wine. The wind and waves picked up though and it wasn't very conducive to a floating picnic, but she was still game. The waves picked up to 6-8 feet and we came flying over a wave and into the biggest hole I'd ever seen. In a heartbeat we were getting hurdled over the bow and mast as it dove. It was as if we'd been shot out of a circus cannon and the main reason I remember it other than being so rude, was that when she came up to the surface she still had the bottle of wine which had been locked between her thighs for the whole slingshot and landing. Hell of gal.

And yeah, learning to right a small, upside down craft is a real skill and it helps (somewhat) to work with the timing of the wave crests. If you do learn to sail, cats aren't [classically] recommended for learning, but it's what I learned on and they sure are fun.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 23, 2015 - 10:30pm PT
Ty Healy..I knew there were a lot of folks here with solid experience.

This looks soooo good.




guido

Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
Nov 24, 2015 - 10:46am PT
For a little excitement de jour follow the Jules Verne Trophy record breaking circumnavigation attempt with two of the FASTEST sailing machines in history. These boats can average 27-34 kts day in and day out.

Who said sailboats are slow?

http://www.spindrift-racing.com/jules-verne/en/live

http://trimaran-idec.geovoile.com/julesverne/2015/

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
I certainly did not wish to insult sailing. When I was talking about speed it was not for excitement or because I think it's "cool" or whatever. I just simply want to reduce my exposure to big unsheltered waters to as short a duration as possible in such a small craft.

Gotta admit those West Wight Potters that were mentioned a while back look like a really good budget way to explore the Bahamas. I would have to buy a truck and lots of gas to transport it to Florida after learning how to use it here. None of the knowledge needed to determine if I would be buying a good used one and what I would need for it if not perfect.. and again..no sailing experience and that is a pretty small sailboat. I suppose most of that is excuse though.. except budget unfortunately.

Sadly for now I'll have to make an Inflatable work. I have a lot of days in whitewater and other freshwater on rafts and inflatables. Owned a few so I know what to look for in used craft of these types. I have very limited experience in the ocean however so I will do a lot of putting around over here on the west coast between Sacramento and then the Bay or Coast. Get myself and it dialed before driving it over to Florida packed on the roof of my car.

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Here is another fast trimaran you might like. Has managed 50+kt? over shorter distances I think it said.



Here is an example of what could happen if I tried to drive a sailboat. I'm guessing you might have seen something like this a few times in those decades of sailing you've done Guido.. I don't want to be "that guy"

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2017 - 08:56pm PT
Bit of an update. Major changes in my life.

Ended up just doing several weeks sea kayak camping around Puerto Rico's various islands. Fantastic time.

The Idea of using a Motorized Inflatable was much more expensive to do right than I expected the more I started to put it together. The reality was that it got near the price range of sailboats and a decent Cruising sailboat is a far superior experience than camping off a dinghy. Other issues are a lack of decent downlow camping spots in the Carribean. The place is often crowded.

Still...I did get a fair bit of Caribbean camping in and learned a lot. Had some incredible times in amazing places.

Beauty
Beauty
Credit: climbski2

Culebrita Camp
Culebrita Camp
Credit: climbski2

A comfortable camp in the tropics is tricky..bugs are like Alaska. Rats are like marmots and camp squirrels..might chew a hole in your Kayak. Wind is your friend ..

One of my Kayak camping tracks
One of my Kayak camping tracks
Credit: climbski2

Also got a day of sailing, helping out on a 37' Beneteau. Took a lot of the mystery away and I realized it was something I certainly could do.

track of a pleasant day sail.
track of a pleasant day sail.
Credit: climbski2

Long story short in a couple weeks I move to south Florida to purchase a decent older cruising sailboat and spend some time fixing it up before heading down to the Caribbean ...and then..we will see.
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 25, 2017 - 09:12pm PT
Totally awesome Derek,
good to see ya back!

What kayak did you use down there?
Do any fishing?

Looking forward to more of your adventure,
Tad
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2017 - 09:21pm PT
An inflatable Innova. It fit as a carryon for the flight over.

Crystal Clear
Crystal Clear
Credit: climbski2

Nice Little Mangrove Island.
Nice Little Mangrove Island.
Credit: climbski2

Not any fishing..Except I did get to try a shot at spearfishing. Bumped into a cool guy who let me take a shot while I was out snorkeling one day. Wished I had my weightbelt but I still got a little one.. they seem bigger until you get them in hand lol.



T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 25, 2017 - 09:43pm PT
Sweeet!

Done some ocean kayakin myself. :)

Kayak Fishin Shelter Cove
Kayak Fishin Shelter Cove
Credit: T Hocking

Trinidad Harbor
Trinidad Harbor
Credit: T Hocking

Q- Ball

Mountain climber
but to scared to climb them anymore
May 26, 2017 - 07:11am PT
Glad you had a fun time! I have run 18 foot skiffs many times from Fort Lauderdale to the East end of Grand Bahama. You just have to hope the weather holds or it is a wet and bumpy ride. And yes it was for fishing not running drugs!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 26, 2017 - 07:29am PT
Done some ocean kayakin myself. :)

Wish I had pics of us dealing with 16' waves off Vancouver Island.
Woulda been kinda hard takin' pics though. ;-)
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 26, 2017 - 07:36am PT
^^^
The sea was angry that day... ;)

The sea was angry that day.
The sea was angry that day.
Credit: T Hocking
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 26, 2017 - 07:47am PT
^^^^ NOICE! You look so relaxed! HaHaHa! You been hangin' with Cosmic? :-)
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
May 26, 2017 - 07:56am PT
Yeah good eye,
it was either Cosmic or Locker that shopped that photo. ;)
I was really on Lake Shasta on a glass day. :)
I have yaked in 10-12 ft. ocean swell and snow but like you no pics. :(

Any more stories and pics to share Derek?

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
May 26, 2017 - 08:33am PT
Swells? I'm talkin' about breaking waves 250 metres off a sheer rock face. As we punched through the breaking crests our boats were airborne! WOOT!
(another-it's-better-to-be-lucky-story)

You should read In The Wake Of The Jomon by Jon Turk. There's a story in there that makes mine look a cake walk!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2017 - 04:52pm PT
Sounds pretty gnarly Reiley.. BTW way earlier in this thread there is a picture of an Albin Vega 27 you owned. Seem to be pretty popular single handed cruisers. I Have a long list of candidate boat models that albin is on there of course...hoping to find something at a bargain price but in good cruising shape once I get to Florida.. seems like the right place to find what I am looking for. Hurricane season might help.

I don't have any gnarley stories from the Tropics and I'm planning to keep it that way..

Sure is beautiful though and I can't seem to get enough of that underwater world.

I have been told by quite a few folks that there are no truly healthy reefs left in the world. Certainly the stuff my father (whom you have met Tad!) enjoyed 50 years ago is nothing like it was.. But I think I have found some stuff that is still fairly good. It does not seem likely that they will survive much longer.. so now is the time to see them and get as much documentation as possible.



Found an awesome rocky creek with hundreds of waterfalls in the rainforest.

Amazing rock scrambling hike to the top of this where it hits a platea...
Amazing rock scrambling hike to the top of this where it hits a plateau and splits into two creeks.
Credit: climbski2
Tami

Social climber
Canada
May 26, 2017 - 08:38pm PT
I have yaked in 10-12 ft. ocean swell

.....I'd yak all over myself in that sea state.

moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
May 26, 2017 - 09:44pm PT
Climbski, I am trying to convince the wife to go with me on that kind of adventure. We used to do it on rivers and lakes in Poland. Sometimes for two weeks kayaking and camping. Taking it to the ocean would be another level of experience, but totally doable.

Thank you for the inspiration!

Moose
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 12, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
Well I pulled the trigger today. Purchased a 1978 Morgan Out Island 33. S/V Attitude

She is a tank and fully functional. Has an aftermarket very nice tall rig.

Hoping to have her in Culebra Puerto Rico by New Years.

Credit: climbski2
JimT

climber
Munich
Aug 15, 2017 - 10:49am PT
Brave man, thatīll keep you poor! I cruised and lived aboard a 38 footer in the Med and Black Sea for 7 years before I moved to Germany.
Nowadys itīs a bit of canoeing and the occasional coastal trip, we (my brother, one of my sons and myself) are just back from 2 weeks on the north coast of France coastal trekking with my 16ft boat.
Credit: JimT

camping up on islands and unsucessfully fishing
Credit: JimT
Kinda rocky and the tides are a real problem running up to 9 knots and a height of 8m or so.
Itīs either like this
Credit: JimT
or like this depending on the time of day
Credit: JimT
and plenty of stuff to run into
Credit: JimT
Credit: JimT
and some neat looking bouldering
Credit: JimT
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