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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 20, 2015 - 11:02am PT
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Registration of Jews. Err Muslims..whatever.
I am really sad that this guy has even slightly been taken seriously as a possible president of this nation.
Scary stuff..far scarier than any terrorist ever considered being.
And folks think calling republicans fascist is ridiculous non-serious rhetoric?
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/11/20/donald-trumps-call-for-muslim-registry-denounced-by-democrats/
NEWTON, Iowa — Donald J. Trump’s remarks Thursday that he would “absolutely” institute mandatory registration of Muslims drew broad condemnation from Democrats Friday and several of his Republican rivals even as some candidates have moved further to the right on national security in the wake of the Paris terror attacks.
Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’
When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’
Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2015 - 11:09am PT
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No not hardly..That is pure evil being spoken by a serious republican contender.
It is Fascist to the core.
I cry every time I drive by this place.. I actually cry.
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Fish Finder
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:14am PT
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sweet
we get to hear your political views and rants here
even though the news covers it just fine
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:15am PT
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Populism and Republicans don't go well together. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff and the Red Scare show what happens when they do.
To me, Trump's views - impoverished as they are in actual policy prescriptions - form the antithesis of conservatism. Clasical conservatism advocates the free movement of goods, services and people, and oppoistion to barriers to same. Trump seems to embrace the very sorts of governmental interventions that promote those barriers. I still don't expect Trump to receive the nomination, because eventually the party will be left with a choice between Trump and a candidate with substance, but he will have done such damage to the party that he will virtually guaranty the election of a Democrat. If he somehow obtains the nomination, I, for one, will not vote for him.
John
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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I rarely post on political threads and more rarely make one.
Trumps statement is so far beyond anything acceptable ..I still have some difficulty beleiving he suggested it..I would have suggested that such a thing would be inpossible in America when I was young.
Flabbergasted..except that the BS has been getting worse for a while and the stage has been a long time setting.
I seriously feel like I just got transported to mid 30's Germany and some guy named Hitler is running for election.
No not acceptable ..
please take this seriously..I wish I knew how to write better.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:19am PT
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Clasical conservatism has very little to do with the modern republican party.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:21am PT
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Trump has made a living (with regards to the polls) by making outrageous statments and the media that it generates. With Ben catching up to him in the polls, I think he casting around for the next big thing. His attacks on Ben didn't do it. Next up.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2015 - 11:26am PT
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Perhaps you are correct spectre...I truly hope so. If so that NBC reporter and the editor should be fired.
I will delete this thread if so. I'm no fan of Trump even if this is misrepresented and untrue but wouldn't feel my OP is warranted.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:33am PT
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REPORTER: Muslims specifically, how do you actually get them registered into a database?
TRUMP: It would be just good management. What you have to do is good management procedures. And we can do that.
TRUMP: Different places. You sign 'em up at different -- but it's all about management. Our country has no management.
Trump doesn't even know what the reporter is talking about by the end of the conversation.
Trump never suggested a database be kept. The Reporter made up the question to try and trick Trump.
That's just my take on the story. Think whatever you like.
So...
You are claiming Trump wants to sign 'em up at different places
And not keep a database?
Yeah, right....
Ever hear of this?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...
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Norton
Social climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 11:51am PT
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Clasical conservatism has very little to do with the modern republican party.
then why do classical Repubs still vote for the modern American Taliban?
force of habit I suppose
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LOWERme
Trad climber
NM
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:01pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
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registration IS a "data base", how could it be anything but?
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:38pm PT
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every dollar is one vote
more dollar = more vote
now repeat after me
moo monee moo vote
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:38pm PT
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As I have said before, Trump is exposing the Repub majority for who they really are.
Go Donald!!!
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:41pm PT
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To me, Trump's views - impoverished as they are in actual policy prescriptions - form the antithesis of conservatism. Clasical conservatism advocates the free movement of goods, services and people, and oppoistion to barriers to same. Trump seems to embrace the very sorts of governmental interventions that promote those barriers. I still don't expect Trump to receive the nomination, because eventually the party will be left with a choice between Trump and a candidate with substance, but he will have done such damage to the party that he will virtually guaranty the election of a Democrat. If he somehow obtains the nomination, I, for one, will not vote for him.
Thanks John. But I actually am beginning to think the Republican Party might nominate him. I still give Rubio an edge in the long run, but the days before primaries are beginning to run out, so another candidate needs to make a move soon.
We need an intelligent two party system, and I wish your party would do better.
Climbski: I think I called him a loathesome pos in another thread because of his comments about Muslims, so yeah, I agree.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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Wait.
Wasn't all new politardiness supposed to go into that one catch-all thread that was graciously provided?
I guess that the cats can't be herded after all.
;-)
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 20, 2015 - 12:54pm PT
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Jody, he doubled down. Read nature's link.
When asked how a system of registering Muslims would be carried out — whether, for instance, mosques would be where people could register — Mr. Trump said: “Different places. You sign up at different places. But it’s all about management. Our country has no management.’’
Asked later, as he signed autographs, how such a database would be different from Jews having to register in Nazi Germany, Mr. Trump repeatedly said, “You tell me,” until he stopped responding to the question.
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