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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Oct 11, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
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^^^Double that price if your chick is wearing Adidas tennies!
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Oct 11, 2015 - 06:47pm PT
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This is good!!!!!!!
Really like tom and all hes done
But gotta side with kocky lil shiz on this one
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Oct 11, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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I say let the fat guy with the camera at the bridge that bitches about people's clothing colors, regardless of their desire to be photographed without permission, rename features on a route he's never climbed. Par for the course these days.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Oct 11, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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Pressure Cooker topo, p.105 of Yosemite Climbs: Free Climbs (1993) -
the named features on this topo are:
Swiller's Pillar at top of p5.
Panic Zone - p6
8 Ball Rollin' - p8
Clint,
I love you man! Do you know that guy from Dragnet? Just that facts man.
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Oct 11, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
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I got lots of pics of el cap
Or should i say shuniekoa!
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ryankelly
Trad climber
Bhumi
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Oct 11, 2015 - 09:37pm PT
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chill out
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overwatch
climber
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Oct 11, 2015 - 11:31pm PT
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Ballsy post, "F"
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 12, 2015 - 12:21am PT
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I'm laughing my ass off in Merced tonight.
I don't know who the f*#k Klaus is. He's arrogant, though, and nasty much of the time, his climbing skills be damned. He's a misanthrope.
He may be right and probably is, but who the hell really cares if his route only get done once every twenty years (or whatever its meager ascent record is) and who will care when we have all passed?
Klaus is no gentleman, he's a jerk.
I'm not defending Tom, who had his say and let it ride, like a gent.
I notice he's shut up, Klaus is in a corner butt-hurt, and only the lonely are posting on this ridiculous issue.
(Cat's out of the bag--I must be lonely.)
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Oct 12, 2015 - 02:01am PT
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full props for some dill weed screwing us all out of the best TR on the planet, Tom's stuff is the only good thing left here,
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Prod
Trad climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 06:34am PT
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Oct 11, 2015 - 06:22pm PT
I am considering renaming Half Dome...
I know! Since the rock-fall it's only like 63/64ths Dome!
Wouldn't it be 31/64ths Dome?
Prod.
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RP3
Big Wall climber
Twain Harte
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Oct 12, 2015 - 06:52am PT
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Goodness gracious.
Klaus climbed and named a crack system that runs on the right side of a series of water streaks, naming it "8 Ball Rollin'" as part of the route Pressure Cooker. He also climbed a crack system on the left side of those streaks and named it "Toofus Tormenter." as part of High Plains Dripper.
Tom names those series of streaks "The Twin Towers" after a resemblance he sees. I'm not sure I see a problem with with this. Nobody's FA work is being disrespected and now people have another way of seeing something in the cliff.
Chill out, people. Don't pick up your pitchforks and chase away some of the last interesting climbing content on this website.
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
Hankster's crew
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Oct 12, 2015 - 07:02am PT
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Could someone clarify this "renaming"? In reference to Tom, from a different thread:
"He did so by renaming pressure cooker a hard 'Klaus line and the features that the route climbs past."
Here's what I don't understand:
1)Apparently Tom renamed the route "Pressure Cooker"? What did he rename it to?
2)Folks are saying that Tom renamed a named feature on "Pressure Cooker". I see that Tom is calling something the "Twin Tower", but what was it called on the "Pressure Cooker" topo? I have looked at the topos and can't figure this out, and Tom's photo of dude climbing Waterfall Route with said feature in photo did not have the pitch number.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Oct 12, 2015 - 07:17am PT
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I really enjoyed those El Cap reports.
Thanks, Klaus.
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overwatch
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 07:18am PT
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I predict that just like most everyone else, he will be back.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Oct 12, 2015 - 07:20am PT
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I am not one to comment I am way out of my pay scale to do so.
That said I bumped my most recent acknowledged a simple bump of
appreciation for what the El Cap Pictures site means to many many people.
We more than like Tom and all he does, his photos get a few of us through long nights.
Crappy days are made tolerable when you can loose your self for a bit on the boot flake or what ever picture takes you.
So that it is here this was all that I had said based on a brief view of the thread, before it parted ways, I - the screen shot showed it - that small exchange,
my memory is tainted, so I am not always good at getting things right !.!,.??
Life on Lipitor = forrgetta' 'bout it, = LOL or may be ?. . . .
4/20 everyday? ( that would be nice )
So this is what I said
That was a bunch crap th other day
Klaus was in the right to be pissed off at Tom
Tom wants to make a tweek here or there to
The complexe stout story of the climbs.
In doing so he uses a ham hock for a writing style
The style does not lend it self to giving full credit or history.
Tom wanted to referance in re era ve the World Trade Center and the 9/11 event
He did so by renaming defining streak features of pressure cooker a hard 'Klaus line and the features that the route climbs past.
With the stuff that eric Kole? Klaus went after the man.
It is a slap at the distinct reputation of a climber and his hard work to disregard
And re-name features, pitches or routes.
The only way to get the right to name a route is through the agreement of the climbers involved with the climbing.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Oct 12, 2015 - 07:56am PT
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I almost want to beg Clint to say if he knows of any other changes?
But he is above this shite. . .
As to go to a stretch of a climb . . .
the fk-en hardest( hooking?) part of a route,
That is "8-Ball rolling,"- the real deal crux?!?,- and looks like -sickly committing !!
And re-name it for water streaks, or patriotic feelings. Or your latest whim?
.????
To Re name it was . . .
An insult
the climbing of systems of cracks faces lines on rocks or cliffs
Get names from the climbers who climb them not the 'Birds'" who watch.
Or that guy who didn't make it?
No he gets his choice name turned around to insult or just blown off, that is how it has been
That's how it goes.
Or will you'all rename things that get retro bolted?
Is not what has been the way in the Valley or anywhere.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 08:10am PT
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Klaus needs to go to a finishing school..... or obedience training with the other angry yappy poodles. Being a good climber shouldn't excuse being rude. But I'd agree that Tom doesn't get to rename things that a FA has named. That said: I'll donate some money to Tom now, he's a good dude and doesn't need to be slandered in that manner. All but one of us apparently still appreciates him:-)
Tom's version reply to EK, quote: "In other news: The recent naming of the two, previously unnamed, golden rectangles on the upper east side, has brought a protest from the climber that put up a new route on part of one of those features. On the route “Pressure Cooker” the respondent claims that he named those huge golden areas, years ago. When one examines the topo one sees the names of several pitches but nothing about a large, golden rectangle. It is never mentioned and thus it was never named by the respondent. The recent naming of those huge features, now called “The Twin Towers” is not a renaming of already named features from a previous time. The name of the respondents climb, and its pitches have not been changed in any way, nor should they be. The topo now is the same as the topo has always been. I tried to have a conversation, on line, with this person but he is unable to have a civil conversation about anything, so I am stating the facts here.
So that’s the way it is, for this Sunday, the 11th day of October, 2015."
Erik Kohls previous words:
"Twin Towers? So now my route Pressure Cooker got re-named by some fat guy with a camera sitting at a bridge who has never and will never climb it?
OK, got it." :Sorry but you are wrong. Those golden features already had names from over 20 years ago. Have you ever bothered to look in a guidebook? I figured you were just ignorant.
I read in one of your previous "reports" that you yourself named it, now it's "the community"? which is it? "
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RP3
Big Wall climber
Twain Harte
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Oct 12, 2015 - 08:31am PT
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Reading this thread is like watching a Republican Presidential Debate. An inaccuracy is stated at the beginning of the conversation and screamed loudly enough until it become de-facto truth.
Tom never renamed anything. He named some streaks on the rock. He did NOT rename a route or a pitch or anything of the like. Check the facts, haters.
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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Oct 12, 2015 - 08:52am PT
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This isn't the first time Tom has thrown a toddler tantrum. Call the waaaambulance, his wittle feewings are hurt.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 12, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Farspook, I feel so chastised now.
Whatever would we do without yur pithy observations, ya saliva-tongued old devil.
Kinky, but I'd wear a tie pin that said I Bin Farouked, if I were wearin' ties still.
A bumper sticker might be even better.
"I dared to disagree with Farouk AND LIVED!"
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