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Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 29, 2015 - 12:58pm PT
No worries. These correction days are a great time to buy.

I save up cash and let it sit for months if needed. Then buy on a correction day.

It's like a sale at REI.

I've also gone high risk and dumped all my managed IRA's. There are quite a few very safe big stocks out there that will perform better than a managed IRA. They play it too safe and you pay for that.

It's all just a form of gambling. The higher the risk, the better the potential pay off. If you have no risk tollerance then your money will sit in a super safe fund and make squat.


Real estate is in a bubble again so the time to buy that was last year.


Silver and gold are in the toilet with no prospects so now is an excellent time to buy precisely because it looks stupid.
10b4me

Social climber
Aug 29, 2015 - 01:03pm PT
The stock market is driven by speculation. 'nuff said.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Aug 29, 2015 - 01:26pm PT
Silver and gold are in the toilet with no prospects so now is an excellent time to buy precisely because it looks stupid.

The fact that silver and gold look stupid is one of the best indications that the economy is doing ok.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Aug 29, 2015 - 05:06pm PT
Count on Republican fear mongering to drive gold & silver up again. If they loose a grip on the election cycle next year, if Clinton or Sanders start looking like a win, you could easily double your money.

They might even attempt a contrived apocalypse even if they are winning just to try and push it over (the election) their way.


Buy low. Sell high.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 29, 2015 - 05:10pm PT
There are only two economists who truly know where the stock market is headed and they disagree.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 29, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
Fritz, 4.7% over 10 years from yer Ginnie?







I'd slit my wrists.
steve s

Trad climber
eldo
Aug 29, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
All my $ are invested in rental properties in Boulder. Probably average 10% gain per year on the 3 different properties and the renters are paying my mortgages and "then" some. Gonna have to raise the rent again( market correction) cause Google,s coming to town. Yep ,just another Boulder slumlord living the dream.
john hansen

climber
Aug 29, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
Andrew Carnagie when asked about the stock market,

" I predict it will fluctuate."
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2015 - 07:10pm PT
Reilly! Re your correct comment:

Fritz, 4.7% over 10 years from yer Ginnie?


That investment replaced our CDs & almost all our savings accounts. It beats the schist out of what those things are yielding, with only a little more risk.

I'm still darn happy with our average annual return on all our stocks & bonds of + 9.23% over each of the last 19 years.

Currently we are invested about 41% bonds 59% stocks, mostly in Vanguard funds.

The S & P 500 Index has averaged an annual return of about + 14.76% over the same time period, but of course that is all stocks.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Sep 25, 2015 - 08:50am PT
UBS sees U.S. pensions adding stocks, selling bonds in Q3
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/25/usa-pensions-ubs-idUSL1N11V15220150925

A lot of pension funds are led by idiots - they're always chasing yield.
I'm increasing my bond/equity percentage. The Fed's rate hike is already
factored into most domestic bonds so if this global 'thang' continues its
uncertainty and volatility I'd rather be holding fewer equities: less
downside risk and better than just holding cash.

Let them eat cake!
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Sep 25, 2015 - 01:38pm PT
I'm still into Silver.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Sep 25, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
Negative sentiment at extreme levels, flow into money market/cash funds have outpaced flows into equities and bonds (this is rare) in the last quarter or so.

Sets things up for a nice rally as the buying power is accumulated on the sidelines and shorts are setup to be squeezed. Puts on financials also spiking lately. Couple three more weeks and it'll be time for the big boys to launch the Santa Claus rally into about mid Feb.

The years-long rally was overheated, we've seen about a year of consolidation and yield curve is nowhere near inverted. The pause that refreshes, IMO.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2015 - 06:50am PT
A very interesting article in MarketWatch on why Today is The Day.

Inspired me to put my IRA money in the market today.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/this-very-day-will-decide-whether-you%e2%80%99ll-be-rich-or-poor/ar-BBmIUNE

(I don't agree with the advice about global stocks at the end of the article.)
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 2, 2015 - 07:32am PT
At least at a Casino you might know the odds.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2015 - 07:38am PT
U.S. stocks rallied the most since 2011 in October amid a rebound in raw-materials and energy shares. The advance pushed the S&P 500 to a two-month high on Oct. 28 , before the index fell on Friday. The benchmark closed last week 2.4 percent below its all-time high set in May amid a recovery from a third-quarter swoon triggered by concern that weakening growth in China would spread.

After the Federal Reserve’s comments last month boosted prospects for a rate increase this year, investors are watching data for signs of whether the economy can withstand higher borrowing costs. Traders are pricing in even odds for a December liftoff.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/stocks-advance-on-health-care-deals-manufacturing-data/ar-BBmJcQg
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Nov 2, 2015 - 08:13am PT
Your a brave man Fritz. Must be all those Marmot barbecues putting hair on your chest.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 2, 2015 - 08:33am PT
At least at a Casino you might know the odds.

Well, Fear, enjoy yer single wide and riding 'coach'. 'Investors' know the odds are heavily in
our favor over the long run. It's quite simple really, assuming one can read.

Fritzi, we're looking forward to a very merry Xmas, aren't we? Does anyone not believe that
the Fed's rate hike is already priced into the markets? I am somewhat ashamed to admit it,
I might even go to Confession, but I lapsed into market timing. That's the bad news. The
good news is that I timed the bottom of the correction to the DAY and bought in a major
way! I promise it won't happen again! Chateauneuf du Pape rools!
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 2, 2015 - 10:45am PT
It's all timing Reilly.... If you can trick yourself into thinking you can time the "markets" over whatever time horizon you pick, go get 'em!

You might win, you might not. But don't think it's not a total gamble.

As long as it's money you can lose take a chance... The problem is too many have everything in the Casino and listen to the shills always barking away that it's the "best" investment which is Hogwash.

Braunini

Big Wall climber
cupertino
Nov 2, 2015 - 10:51am PT
dirtbags comparing stock portfolios itt
Dave

Mountain climber
the ANTI-fresno
Nov 2, 2015 - 12:33pm PT
Meh, no one is comparing portfolio's.

The great tragedy of our education system is that the concept compound interest is not taught and re-taught.

One who invests a three hundred bucks a month, at the average return of the S&P500, for 40 years, will be a millionaire. $300 a month = 2 lattes a day, or a lunch a Chipotle a day.

It's all about choices.
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