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blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

May 16, 2016 - 04:04pm PT

Norton,

Read this and try to educate yourself--you may want to right a little report to explain what you've learned in your own words.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27211-2004Aug23.html

Kerry's disgraceful lying is incontrovertible.

Barry's got a way of picking real honest guys (and gals) for the highest positions in government--Biden, Kerry, and Hills are well-documented, bald-faced, shameless liars. The only defense is "well they're politicians, of course they're liars." (I suppose another defense could be they're not lying, they're merely delusional.)

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

May 16, 2016 - 04:10pm PT

Well, by that logic (or lack thereof) the FBI would have never investigated her emails in the first place.

No--preventing the FBI from investigating a crime is clear malfeasance;
not filing a criminal case is simply an act of prosecutorial discretion (look it up if you don't what that means).

Gary

Social climber

Where in the hell is Major Kong?

May 16, 2016 - 04:11pm PT

^^ An American Enterprise Institute hit piece that says nothing.

Curt

climber

Gold Canyon, AZ

May 16, 2016 - 04:30pm PT

No--preventing the FBI from investigating a crime is clear malfeasance;
not filing a criminal case is simply an act of prosecutorial discretion (look it up if you don't what that means).

Failing to file charges/indict if you have clear evidence that a crime has been committed is not prosecutorial discretion--that is also malfeasance. They don't have anything.

Curt

zBrown

Ice climber

May 16, 2016 - 04:36pm PT

Federal prosecutors report (directly or indirectly) to the Attorney General. The Attorney General (currently one Loretta Lynch) reports to the President (currently one Barack Hussein Obama).

Are these like book reports, ur whaaat?

Are you implying that one and/or both one Loretta Elizabeth Lynch/Hargrove or one Barack Hussein Obama have directly or indirectly blocked the prosecution of one Hills?

If you are, then why don't you state it along with on what evidence you base this assumption?

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

May 16, 2016 - 04:50pm PT

zBrown - it's very simple. Allow me to explain.

If HRC is guilty they won't do anything about it because that is how our justice system works.

However, if HRC is not guilty then she will be indicted and President Obama and Mrs. Lynch would be a part of the indictment. That way they maintain their innocence by prosecuting a not guilty person.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 05:01pm PT

Nature

I need a total tutorial on installing grease monkey
no need to name names

but I am going with the same name you named

I can't take it anymore

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

May 16, 2016 - 05:03pm PT

lol! I love obfuscation. interested in making walls of text go POOF?

Step #1 - you have to use Firefox. Greasemonkey is a plugin for that browser.

And not so oddly you're the second person in a week to ask me how to get it running.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 05:39pm PT

I don't use FireFox, am I F*#ked??

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

May 16, 2016 - 05:41pm PT

Failing to file charges/indict if you have clear evidence that a crime has been committed is not prosecutorial discretion--that is also malfeasance. They don't have anything.

Curt

If you really believe that then everyone from Obama on down should be impeached and otherwise punished for their malfeasance for failing to enforce federal laws by allowing the open and conspicuous sale of marijuana in Colorado (and other places)--there is clear-as-a bell evidence that these crimes have been, are being, and will continue to be committed on a massive scale.
The same thing is also happening with immigration laws, but we don't need to go there, the marijuana example proves that your statement is simply incorrect--prosecutors need not charge a crime even when there is "clear evidence" of guilt, as you put it, and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. (At least that's true at the federal level and as a general rule--there may be exceptions.)

The marijuana example also shows that federal prosecutors are not free to file criminal charges against the wishes of their superiors--just not how the system works.

Some people believe that Hills is extra motivated to win the presidency just to avoid prosecution--if Trump gets it, maybe she will be charged.
(By the way, I don't have any strong feeling about the email scandal other then to observe it shows appalling lack of judgment on her part--it's not as if she was giving secrets to our enemies, and I doubt Obama ever really trusted her with anything too important anyway.) My favorite part of the scandal is when she was asked if she wiped the server and she got this funny look on her face and said something like "wiped, like with a dish cloth?" You can't make stuff like that up as they say.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 05:57pm PT

Good observations Blah

how do you feel about voting for Trump?
Yes or no

nature

climber

Boulder, CO

May 16, 2016 - 06:00pm PT

well w/o Firefox you can't use greasemonkey.

blahblah

Gym climber

Boulder

May 16, 2016 - 06:14pm PT

I'm a big NO on Trump.
I knew he was a total liar (or at least had reckless disregard for the truth) in the Obama birther thing. I've got my issues with Obama but I never thought there was any legitimate issue about where he was born, and even if he was born in Kenya, I didn't see how that mattered since his mother was a US citizen (not everyone agrees what "natural born" means, but it always seemed to me that if you don't need to be "naturalized" to be a US citizen, that's all that matters--anyway that irrelevant, he was born in HI)

And I probably don't like Trump for most of the same reasons that the standard lib party line doesn't like him--he's a demagogue who's got nothing to say about specific policies (except for stupid things like his wall), his "business" skills seem to amount to inheriting money and being a reality-TV star, etc.

Now I agree with him on some things--I don't think bringing large numbers of Syrians to the US is a good idea (I may make an exception for Yazidis or other persecuted minorities). But saying there will be a total ban on muslims entering the US seems unconstitutional, terrible policy, borderline insane.

We could all go on and on--I don't like Trump and I don't know anyone who likes him, or at least no one who I talk to about politics.

So I'll probably end up voting for Hills, unless a 3rd party candidate attracts me.

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 06:29pm PT

I guess I get what I deserve, being a skeptic, my religion makes me have to endure every angle, every side, every con

and try and sort it out

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 07:06pm PT

Craig Fry

Trad climber

So Cal.

May 16, 2016 - 08:15pm PT

I don't think MB could pass the Turing Test

it must be a computer program stuck on an endless "Hillary corrupt" loop

Escopeta

Trad climber

Idaho

May 16, 2016 - 09:08pm PT

am I F*#ked??

Is that a trick question?

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

May 17, 2016 - 02:06am PT

High administration officials from three republican administrations in a row weren't for clear crimes and treason - and the low level officials who were tried were pardoned except for one scapegoat. And you whine about a private email server? Crikey, talk double standards.