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dirtbag
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Dec 22, 2015 - 09:44am PT
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No, apogee, he wants to schlong her.
I never once heard anyone use the term as a verb.
Me too. Thanks, Donald, I learned something new.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 22, 2015 - 09:56am PT
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Trump loves women. Why else would he have had four wives?
Hildabeast loves women too. Why else would Bill be going around as a serial rapist?
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 10:10am PT
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What are you saying? Since more Muslims are being harmed, the plight of Christians doesn't matter?
Wow.
That was quick.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 11:51am PT
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Didn't Jon Stewart wisely do a skit that the "race card" was over drawn?
When you can't debate, go with the Ad hominem, no?
However ridiculous Trump's candidacy may be, it is no more ridiculous than all of American politics at this time.
How many Democrats have appologized for asserting out loud that “all lives matter”?
Are the Democrats so vested in the demagoguery of identity politics that the phrase “all men are created equal” is now toxic?
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HighDesertDJ
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Dec 22, 2015 - 11:58am PT
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Larry, why haven't you taken the time to answer your own question? Are you so scared to learn something that challenges your gut reaction that you have avoided reading some of the many thoughtful pieces on why "all lives matter" was a dismissive response to the Black Lives Matter movement that was worthy of apology? If you really think that "all men are created equal" then why are you so bothered that people are calling attention to the fact that our country does not bear out that platitude?
You'll note that Stewart's wise critique of the race card was not "race is not an issue."
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crankster
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No. Tahoe
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:06pm PT
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However ridiculous Trump's candidacy may be, it is no more ridiculous than all of American politics at this time.
Clearly, you are not paying attention.
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:07pm PT
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You'll note that Stewart's wise critique of the race card was not "race is not an issue."
Right. It's about being overused as a rallying point, diluting the issue.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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That's a fact, crankster.
Comments like that...or the typical 'it doesn't matter which Party you vote for'...call out pretty clear ignorance & indifference in my book.
There is plenty of dysfunctional overlap between the two Partys, but there are clear differences, too. From women's choice to wars to the right to love who we want to soooo many other important social issues that directly affect our lives & those around us each and every day, there's a great difference in how one Party acts vs. the other.
And if you can't see the deteriorating difference in political discourse today vs. years ago, you really haven't been paying attention.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:18pm PT
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:18pm PT
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Ed posted Right. It's about being overused as a rallying point, diluting the issue.
Which is an easy fig leaf to bring up when you don't want to talk about race. Let me put it this way: if someone doesn't know why "all lives matter" was a stupid thing to say they also don't know enough to decide when the "race card" is being overused.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:19pm PT
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HDDJ
I totally reject the "Black Lives Matter" movement as partisan and reactionary. Much dishonesty has arisen from their inflammatory rhetoric.
OTOH: I think police departments definitely have a self induced problem in minority neighborhoods.
"All men are created equal" is one lofty goal of our great democracy.
As individual human beings, we have along way to go...all of us.
You may disagree with my perspective of "Black Lives Matter".
You obviously don't know what is truly in my heart.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:21pm PT
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Crankster
I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
;-)
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
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Well, who was manning this chopper?
Anti Papist secular "progressives".
(French: la Terreur), was a period of violence that occurred after the onset of the French Revolution, incited by conflict between two rival political factions, the Girondins and The Mountain, and marked by mass executions of "enemies of the revolution".
The Roman Catholic Church opposed the revolution, which had turned the clergy into employees of the state and required they take an oath of loyalty to the nation (through the Civil Constitution of the Clergy).
Among people who were condemned by the revolutionary tribunals, about 8% were aristocrats, 6% clergy, 14% middle class, and 72% were workers or peasants accused of hoarding, evading the draft, desertion, or rebellion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror
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EdwardT
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Retired
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
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Which is an easy fig leaf to bring up when you don't want to talk about race. Let me put it this way: if someone doesn't know why "all lives matter" was a stupid thing to say they also don't know enough to decide when the "race card" is being overused.
Hillary Clinton ~ RACIST!
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:27pm PT
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apogee wrote:
And if you can't see the deteriorating difference in political discourse today vs. years ago, you really haven't been paying attention.
To paraphrase some famous guy. "Elections have consequences. We won, you lost"
Yeah, I see what you mean.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:35pm PT
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There's only one party now in Washington.
The inside the beltway party.
Bern doesn't scare them. He's an old tired man.
Cruz certainly scares the crap out of them.
Trump, will eventually make a deal with them.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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And if you can't see the deteriorating difference in political discourse today vs. years ago, you really haven't been paying attention.
I agree. Each decade seems to set new lower standards.
Juvenile smacktalk is now acceptable by national figures.
It's hard to fathom a presidential candidate could get away with the crap Trump spouts. But he does. And a sizeable portion of the population are okay with it.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:38pm PT
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Cruz certainly scares the crap out of them.
No, Cruz is one of them.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 22, 2015 - 12:40pm PT
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Cruz should scare the crap out of you, TGT. That guy's loonier than a crankloon.
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