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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2015 - 10:35pm PT
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Rdog / Ron Anderson
Please be nice to the other people when you play on my thread.
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anita514
Gym climber
Great White North
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Jul 30, 2015 - 10:35pm PT
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misfits fan Anita? crazy ass song
Not really, just like that song
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2015 - 10:51pm PT
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FACT: Ron you are the easy target because you dominate the thread.
Sorry, a primacy/recency thing I suppose...
I am deeply concerned. What will the advertisers think about how this tread is degenerating.
MOar IMPORtantly: WWWiT (what will Weld_it Think?
^^style edit to claim this is me trying to be sarcastic or funny but sounding crazy
PLEASE ron continue
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philo
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 05:15am PT
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Jul 30, 2015 - 11:33pm PT
Don't make me use the philohw line on ya!:^)
You mean this line from a completely unrelated thread?
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2660142&msg=2660287#msg2660287
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2015 - 07:55pm PT
My First Amendment rights mean I can say your misinterpretation of the Second Amendment sucks dead dog dicks. Don't like it? Shoot yourself.
You seem to really like that quote since you can't help bringing it up at every opportunity.
So you might as well get it correct and in context. "Correct and in context" seems to be a conundrum for you.
Since you are the one with the 2nd Amendment misinterpretation issue it would be you who sups on Fido's pride.
Let me put it another way;
"Ssac'' martwe dicks psa".
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couchmaster
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 06:55am PT
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STUDLY!!!!! said - quote: " I know you're a strong climber, but I didn't realize you were a top notch hand jockey as well! Sick."
I guess that I'm multi-talented:-) "stick jockey" haha. And you put in a climbing picture too. That dressed up the thread. While we were waiting for a couple guys to let us by (they did), we got to musing on the age of the gear, Ujahn noted that the slung #6 Chouinard Hex on the rack was bought new by me the year he was born LOL! I was thinking "time to put on a new sling on that puppy". BTW, I didn't see you out after work in the 100 degree heat. Clearly you are smarter than the rest of us haha. It was 100 degrees on the ride out, but when we got out of the car and racked up @5:15pm the car thermometer said 95 degrees. In the shade.
When I was younger, a common activity was to peel it off and swim over to that island after getting back down to cool off. I've never seen the river with so much algae. BPA is releasing craploads of water over the spillways and it's still not helping....bad juju for the fish. Ujahn had said on the way out that he'd had bought a season pass and didn't get out once this year, lack of snow mostly (and he had a kid and he was busy). Need to get a few of the climate change deniers up there to see the glaciers before they disappear.
Towards the issue at hand: my brother and sister in law lived and worked right near the Zimbabwe border in Botswana for years trying to re-establish forests on the border of the Kalahari desert. My point is Zimbabwe has big problems {anyone interested can look it up, google Zimbabwe = shithole or some such) and trophy hunting is not one of them. In fact, trophy hunting is a net positive for them. That Lion flesh was most likely eaten by local villagers who, unlike the folks bitching on this thread, rarely get protein. Their sitting in a roudaval eating mealy meal. Anyone here ever try Mealy meal? Do it for a week and see if you would not welcome a Lion, at least for your hungry children to nosh on. Probably eaten that very evening in a big social event.
Furthermore, guides do better showing some as#@&%e from the US around than poaching. If the as#@&%e disappears, they'll poach. Plenty of studies on that. (Google endangered Rhino horn/Chinese aphrodisiac, Elephant tusks or some such), this is a huge issue and they correlate. I'd bet money that the lion killer did much more for the people of that shithole than any hater on this thread. So thus my "Meh". I don't hunt (other than the grocery store), but don't need to worry about those that do. Bigger fish to fry and all that.
It just seems to me that our western sensibilities, ethics and morals are getting into these debates all the time. Ask Doctor Jan how it rolls in Nepal. People come from the west and are horrified that Nepal will be damming up those beautiful streams, but the poor f*#kers don't have power or anything associated with western creature comforts unlike the critics who want to stop development. If the western critics were to say "I'll go live in a cave and grub around in the dirt for substance to make ends meet: without power or any energy use" (gasoline) and send send their money to the Nepalese who have nothing, I'd be more impressed and inclined to listen. Otherwise, folks in the west are pretty much a bunch of damned hypocrites. Not all of course, but lots of us and I'm generally no better than the next person: Studly gets a pass on this eating the Lion thing, for example, he's vegetarian. :-)
Regards to all!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 31, 2015 - 06:57am PT
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Furthermore, I don't give a sh#t. It's a friggan Lion Dingus, it isn't one of your children, no need to be so yoinked up about it. It's just an animal.
Unborn children...aren't. I'd trade a couple million of 'em for that lion.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:00am PT
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I think the only tangent not touched by this "Lion Killed" thread is how it relates to Muslim extremism.
Please proceed.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:03am PT
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Then God said "let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds of the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
This sort of bizarre monotheistic mythology is largely responsible for the "we" and "they" mentality we have regarding other living organisims on the planet we share with them.
We may be in for a surprise someday regarding our "dominion" over other creatures. The dinosaurs held sway for 165 million years....it's unlikely that we'll match that run.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:18am PT
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Zimbabwe wants lion's killer extradited
"We want him tried in Zimbabwe because he violated our laws," Oppah Muchinguri, environment, water and climate minister, said in a news conference Friday. "Police should take the first step to approach the prosecutor general who will approach the Americans. The processes have already started," Muchinguri said.
One more dissimilarity between the 'hunting behavior' of Dahmer and Palmer eliminated. It turns out that Palmer's might not always be sanctioned after all.
We'll never know for sure because he didn't post on Youtube, but did Dahmer smile while he killed his victims?
WARNING: This is ghastly. Don't look if you have a weak stomach, or none.
http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/images/c_fill,h_296,w_430/t_mp_quality/itmqdaie29lwvskvxsag/the-man-who-killed-jeffery-dahmer-the-world-s-most-savage-serial-killer-has-said-why-he-382855.jpg
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:23am PT
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I don't personally like hunting either but I realize these large animals die every day regardless of what people do. Disease, gravity, starvation, predation.... Life is gruesome stuff.
Properly managed and limited, I see hunting as an important revenue machine. The problem becomes managing such things in the frameworks of countries with completely corrupt regimes. (Like the US) :)
I think it's funny how the sheeple news propaganda machine can spin everyone up so easily.
Now... about that Muslim connection....
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:31am PT
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Come on Jim, that's not mythology, that is god words.
Can wait to see when Rong post some connection that Obama or his family was at fault in this.
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philo
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:00am PT
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Cragman start a new abortion thread if it is such a critical issue for you. This thread has a very limited focus. This thread is about a trophy hunting bastard poacher. Try to stay on topic.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:01am PT
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The menagerie-of-the-dead at Cabelas is a goddamned creep show.
You'll love the museum in Elko.
http://museumelko.org/index.php/exhibits/
Nevada’s largest collection of wild animals from around the world is on permanent exhibit in the Wanamaker wing. There are more than 180 animals exhibited in their natural setting as well as animal mounts and historic hunting gear. The majority of these animals were donated by the late Jack Wanamaker of Burbank, California.
It really is appalling. He wiped out a whole family of some kind of Siberian deer. There's even stuffed Eskimo family.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:09am PT
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I admire how mighty hunters "cull the herd" for the preservation of the species, not to
mention that part of their hunting permit fees go to "conservation" efforts.
Because, going to the supermarket for dinner is just so......boring
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philo
climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:16am PT
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Here's a thought why don't we round up all the mighty poachers and drop them on a remote deserted island and let them hunt each other. Winner gets to mount all the heads on Palm trees.
Not that'd be must see reality TV.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jul 31, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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Jul 31, 2015 - 07:09am PT
I don't like trophy hunting. I haven't liked it for 40 years. I don't like trophy hunters. I haven't liked them for 40 years. The menagerie-of-the-dead at Cabelas is a goddamned creep show.
Lions, tigers, bears, the biggest marlin, the baddest goose... I can't stand trophy hunting. Its an abomination, to take the best of the species.
"I'm going to conserve these animals... by shooting the best of them."
What a stupid bass ackwards thing to do.
Mighty hunters, indeed. Sackless is more like it.
DMT
Thanks, Dingus.
Ron, I am still waiting for you to answer my question.
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