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jonnyrig
climber
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:18am PT
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It's not black and white. It's grey. 50 shades. And, apparently, it's legal.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:20am PT
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What the heck does that post mean blueblocr?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:28am PT
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Amerika is DOOMED!!!
Let Sodom and Gomorrah be a lesson to us all. The End Times are nigh.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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Happy Day!!!
Love and Bunnies!!
and don't forget the cute little Kitties, Yea!
Thanks Obama
We had hope and got we change for the better!
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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No gay person ever hurt my family or tore down my marriage.
But now that gay marriage is legal, your marriage is worthless, right?
That's the part that always baffled me. Why did anyone think that their traditional straight marriage would somehow be diminished if the guy down the street married his gay partner?
Where was there ever a negative aspect to allowing same-sex marriage? Did Bluering think that if gays were allowed to marry he would have to divorce his wife and marry his dog?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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Fry brings up some legitimate questions about the 4 judges that voted against gay rights...I can understand religious opposition to the law but the case isn't about religious rights...
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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Scalia, in his own scathing dissent, complained that the majority opinion lacked "even a thin veneer of law." He quipped, "Who ever thought that intimacy and spirituality [whatever that means] were freedoms? And if intimacy is, one would think Freedom of Intimacy is abridged rather than expanded by marriage. Ask the nearest hippie."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:37am PT
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But now that gay marriage is legal, your marriage is worthless, right?
I feel so violated......
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:39am PT
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Fry brings up some legitimate questions about the 4 judges that voted against gay rights...
No, he just epitomizes why you should not represent yerself if you're not
a lawyer. And opining on constitutional matters is even more ridiculous.
Of course there are common sense arguments but lawyers don't make a nice
living by invoking common sense.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:40am PT
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So now we've established legalities. It time give back what was stolen.
I'm sick having to explain every time I publicly use the words Queer or Gay. The words have been turned into lies. Right along with with the rainbow flag. Do you know it's origin? Has nothing to do with homosexualality!
Now that their legit, can we please start this new day from a platform of Truth?!!!!
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:43am PT
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One of my friends, who happens to be gay, and I were discussing politics and I made the statement that it no longer matters who's in office because they are all corporate stooges, my friend remarked that the best reason to vote for a Democratic President (nowadays of course) is because they are the ones that select the Supreme Court Justices.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:45am PT
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With a capitol T, please.
Go back to
your books,
they'll tell
you the "truth".
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:46am PT
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It's Not Over:
Getting Beyond Tolerance, Defeating Homophobia, and Winning True Equality
Hardcover
by Michelangelo Signorile
Marriage equality has surged across the country. Closet doors have burst open in business, entertainment, and even major league sports. But as longtime advocate Michelangelo Signorile argues in his most provocative book yet, the excitement of such breathless change makes this moment more dangerous than ever. Puncturing the illusion that victory is now inevitable, Signorile marshals stinging evidence that an age-old hatred, homophobia, is still a basic fact of American life. He exposes the bigotry of the brewing religious conservative backlash against LGBT rights and challenges the complacency and hypocrisy of supposed allies in Washington, the media, and Hollywood.
Not just a wake-up call, It's Not Over is also a battle plan for the fights to come in the march toward equality. Signorile tells the stories of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans who have refused to be merely tolerated, or worse, and are demanding full acceptance. And he documents signs of hope in schools and communities finding new ways to combat ignorance, bullying, and fear. Urgent and empowering, It's Not Over is a necessary book from one of our most electrifying voices.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:46am PT
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
1800's
Jun 26, 2015 - 09:40am PT
So now we've established legalities. It time give back what was stolen.
I'm sick having to explain every time I publicly use the words Queer or Gay. The words have been turned into lies. Right along with with the rainbow flag. Do you know it's origin? Has nothing to do with homosexualality!
Now that their legit, can we please start this new day from a platform of Truth?!!!!
Are you feeling especially gay today, or especially queer???
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:48am PT
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I always thought it ironic when conservatives want the government to step-in and ban this or that activity. Then they turn around and complain about too much government regulation.
If the government has the authority to ban lifestyle choices such as gay marriage, weed, or even abortion (well, ok, maybe that isn't quite a lifestyle choice), doesn't that open the door at some point down the road for the government to require such things??? You know, in case of national security or something like that.
You can't use the constitution to take away rights. One of its main purposes is to safeguard the rights we were presumably born with.
Hey, good to have you back "R-dog"
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:48am PT
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Opining or not, I'd like to hear a well-articulated view of anyone who doesn't believe that gay marriage isn't consistent with the principles of the Constitution.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:49am PT
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One concerns love
and the other,
machines of death.
Obviously the same.
Right rong?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:50am PT
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Rdog, you're right in one repect but there's a LOT of money at stake when
it comes to gay marriage. Don't you think the divorce lawyers are licking
their chops?
I'd say a more pressing issue is the impending demise of the Import Export
Bank. But I digress.
Apogee, constitutional law minutiae is beyond all but a couple of us here.
As I noted upthread Ginsburg and Scalia are best friends AND she has a lot
of respect for his opinions which in lawyer speak means she respects the
way they are written.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 26, 2015 - 09:50am PT
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Geese mate for life...Why can't gays...?
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