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Norton
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Oct 11, 2015 - 01:16pm PT
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and because of that GREED...
people that work at MacDonald's (and similar) are forced to get government compensation to pick up the slack...
Those people work their fuking ASSES off and make SH!T for a paycheck...
exactly
Locker/Norton
2016
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Oct 11, 2015 - 01:52pm PT
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WBraun-
Everyone knows- dipshit Euros drew the current borders in the Middle East after their wonderful gift to mankind-WW1.
Idiot George Bush just loosened one screw and the whole inevitable mess blew up. The tyrannical suppression of religious zealots by minority clans usually ends bad. Thanks for setting that up...
How long have European corporations been raiding the candy jar in the middle east with one hand and wagging a finger at the US with the other hand (not sure which hand has the filterless Camel)?
However; your right, Americans are dumbshits for bailing out dipshit Euros time after time, while Euros rave at the techno club in their $200 skinny-jeans, smoking American made, filterless Camels and playing with glo-sticks.
Bernie's stated Isis policy is to let the regional powers deal with it. I couldn't agree more.
Ok, I have to be fair- While some Americans were at the Country Western bar, wearing bedazzled Tony Lamas, doing the Cotton-Eye'd-Joe with their sleeves rolled up, exposing their barbed wire tatoo.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 11, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
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If McDonalds raises wages , McDonalds will be forced to eliminate jobs and their workers will be forced to go on unemployment..
this is something the democrats have not been good at..
repubs have been better with big, local small business etc...
I wonder if Bernie will become a part of the DNC?
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Oct 11, 2015 - 02:34pm PT
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That was a great rant, Contractor!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Oct 11, 2015 - 03:26pm PT
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My favorite new ploy of the Repubs, especially Marco-
While shedding crocodile tears, offer tax credits and reduced rates to the lowest tax bracket, IN LUE OF, a federally mandated, minimum wage hike. Very token in scope by the way.
Why:
1) Because it's cheaper than middle class tax relief.
2) You and I soley, will help support the poor via OUR tax revenue while the corporations skate.
3) It will give the 1% cover to lower their own taxes through an economic Trojan Hoarse "a simpler tax code" or "tax reform" (see: The Donald's tax plan).
A higher minimum wage should be done, IN CONJUNCTION, with tax relief for the poor and middle class.
This can all be revenue neutral at a minimum, by simply, raising taxes on the rich and intellegently reducing our military budget.
Feelin the Bern over here!
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 11, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
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Feeling the Drum circle in LIBERLAND...
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Oct 11, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Oct 11, 2015 - 04:29pm PT
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If Teddy were running today, Carly would say "Teddy wants to penalize success and I want to reward success".
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 11, 2015 - 04:33pm PT
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I like how the Bern is putting words In Bull moose mouth..
I'm guessing he wants to run independent. .
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 11, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 11, 2015 - 07:17pm PT
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there you have it, those fat fuks flipping burgers are actually working their ASSES off... hahahahhaha... holy fuk, it's just flipping burgers for crap sake...
I did that job, hot and sweaty for 8 damn hours at minimum wage
anyone who really thinks that is not working your ass off is a pompous moron
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 10:37am PT
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I will vote for whoever emerges from the democratic primary and can beat the loon the republicans nominate.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Oct 12, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
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to make the system more of what it claims to be on the surface
I have never understood this sentiment. WHAT is the system "supposed" to be?
Look, if you're flipping burgers or bending burritos for a "living," if you're AT ALL sensible you are using that TEMPORARY job as a stepping stone to an education or other job training. You do NOT want to be doing that job for a "living" long term!
The idea that ANYBODY should imagine that they SHOULD be able to "raise a family" on a minimum-wage job is ABSURD. Get educated and/or get SKILLED at something better than menial labor! Then (that means LATER in time), AFTER you are educated/skilled enough to earn a middle-class wage, you can think (carefully) about having a family.
You EARN a better wage by improving your education/skills so that you can offer "the system" some capacities that are more rarefied than "the masses." As a general rule (with rare exception), the more common your "skills" are, the less they are worth, while the rarer your skills are, the more they are worth.
I'm so tired of hearing about the "downtrodden" laborers who are "working their a55es off," when in fact most of them are taking the undisciplined road and then moaning: "How am I supposed to feed three kids on a minimum wage job?"
Sorry, don't HAVE the three kids while ALL you are capable of is a minimum-wage job! And MOST such "families" are getting lots of government assistance to supplement that income anyway.
"The system" is NEVER going to support families on minimum-wage jobs, and increasing the minimum wage is NOT going to solve that problem nor overturn that fact.
Learn to drive a rig and get a Class A license. There is a DEARTH of truck drivers right now (like 500,000 short across the nation), and driving a rig pays very well (especially by comparison with bending burritos!). For those not college-bound, driving a rig is really a great career. I did it for years, and I highly recommend it as a CAREER for many people.
Meanwhile, quit moaning about the poor minimum-wage crowd. It's not SUPPOSED to be a career or a "living!!!"
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Oct 12, 2015 - 02:24pm PT
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Another great rant!
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Oct 12, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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Go into debt learning to drive a truck just in time to be replaced by a self driving truck. Yea.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Oct 12, 2015 - 02:38pm PT
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Another great rant!
It wasn't too long ago that Democrats claimed McCain was too old to be president. Now, Bernie is even older....hypocrites!!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 12, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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^^^--- sorry, fail. The issue was not with McCains age. it was with the fact that he chose one of the most idiotic, stupid, disingenuous mouth breathers on the plant as his running mate. Putting that class-A ditz a heartbeat away from the White House goes beyond irresponsible.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Oct 12, 2015 - 03:24pm PT
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MB,Have you looked into how many people are flipping burgers or folding burritos, TODAY.
How many do you believe HAVE a solid college education?
I suspect you would be astonished at how many.
Very realistic of you to think that laboring jobs are just a stepping stone to future careers.That was true in your fathers day.
There once was upward mobility.
An interesting poll was taken just this week on millennials saving their money or spending it and enjoying life.
Enjoying life won three times over,for millennials ,they believe there is very little to look forward to in the future.
They believe our generation has ruined everything for them.Why Save?
They believe they cannot afford a college education.
They believe in not having kids for the same reasons as above.
Millennials outnumber boomers nearly 2 to 1.
They will also vote for Bernie,the 70 something year old man who is the only candidate who's ideas and ideals they BELIEVE in.
No the younger crowd[than me anyway] is not going to win this election for anyone ,but,it is also influencing my own generation.
Especially ones like myself still climbing that ladder.Going back to school at 57.
I find it very easy,in fact alot easier than say folding burritos,to sit back on a island criticizing people who WORK for a living.
No matter how menial the job is.
Makes you look and feel good I guess.
Bernie Sanders for President of the United States of America.
Dammit.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Oct 12, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
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Bernie Sanders for President of the United States of America.
Contrary to your generalizations about me, my views, and my leanings, Bernie is almost certainly the candidate that's gonna get my vote. For one thing, I'm all for free college education, even though I'll be in debt the rest of my life for my Ph.D. And I like his plan to pay for it, particularly as "sales tax" types of transactional taxes are the RIGHT way to tax!
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John M
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
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nice sentimentality madbolter, but not realistic.
Sometimes people have babies without intending to. If they are poor, then they have real troubles. The notion that because its a minimum wage job it should only be considered as a first step is just unrealistic.
What is it with conservatives who have no ability to have empathy for others situations and try to impose their own abilities on others. LEB was the same way. But not everyone has the same talents and strengths. Thats a reality.
Could they do better? most anyone can do at least a little better. But when you are making minimum wage, a little better doesn't go very far.
How much better are you going to be madbolter? Like with your empathy..
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