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akapisten
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 20, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
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Hello
This might be a strange question, but I'm working on a documentary film in Norway about the history of climbing in our region. The climbing in Yosemite was also an important inspiration, and if I manage, I hope to illustrate this in the film with one or two images from Yosemite in the seventies.
I love the image of Westbay, Bridwell and Long in front of El Capitan (in 1975 I believe), but as of now, I struggle to find out who was the photographer? Would someone here by any chance know this?
I'm very greatful for any help :)
Best regards from Norway
Carl
PS: If you know how I can get in touch with Westbay, Bridwell and/or Long (possibly by email?) that's also greatly apreciated! (e.g. via personal message). I'm sorry about my English.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Jun 20, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
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A little stone carving project?
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jun 20, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
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Carl,
The photo is credited in "Yosemite Climber" as "Westbay collection" (but see mastadon's answer below).
It is plate 62 in the book "Yosemite Climber" (1979), by George Meyers.
Yes, it was taken in 1975, right after the team did the first one day ascent of the Nose.
Billy Westbay passed away a few years ago.
John Long posts here as Largo.
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Hardly Visible
Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
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Jun 20, 2015 - 02:03pm PT
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You can send a message to John Long (Largo) by finding something he's posted on this site. Click on his name then click on send a message.
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wayne w
Trad climber
the nw
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Jun 20, 2015 - 02:36pm PT
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The Supertopo messaging isn't always the most reliable.
John is on Facebook, and sending him a message there would likely be a more reliable way to contact him.
Good luck on your project.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Jun 20, 2015 - 04:27pm PT
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George Meyers has also posted on ST, but not in a long time. His email on his account might still be good, however. Look for posts by "Jorge," click on his name and you can email him.
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Jun 20, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
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Mike White took the photo. He has the original.
Mike is a computer moron and doesn't use email or any such nonsense without his wife's help. If you need to get in touch, let me know and I can let him know.
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Jun 20, 2015 - 08:59pm PT
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Yes you are correct Mastadon it is Mike White's photo.
Have you ever seen credit given to Mike for this?
As I remember his words to the trio were, "Do us proud"!
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akapisten
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 21, 2015 - 03:45am PT
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Thank you all for great help here. Really apreciated! Mastadon, that would be great! I will send you a message via PM here if that's ok.
Have a great day everyone!
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Jun 21, 2015 - 05:13pm PT
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Talked to Mike White today. He's totally OK with you using his picture as long as he gets credit for taking it.
Let me see if I can accurately relay what he said, "It was my fu##ing camera, my fu##ing film, I was the one that spent time getting those a$$holes lined up correctly and I was the one that took one of the most significant climbing pictures of the past 50 years and every fu##ing a$$hole wants to take credit for it."
Mike always did have a way with words.
Apparently the confusion came from Mike giving the undeveloped film to Billy Westbay to have it processed.
There you have it.
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WBraun
climber
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Jun 21, 2015 - 05:17pm PT
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ROFLMAO ^^^^
Whitey is as bad as I am .....
Hahahaha
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fosburg
climber
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Jun 21, 2015 - 08:13pm PT
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Did Mike White work for YMS?
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jun 22, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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"It was my fu##ing camera, my fu##ing film, I was the one that spent time getting those a$$holes lined up correctly and I was the one that took one of the most significant climbing pictures of the past 50 years and every fu##ing a$$hole wants to take credit for it."
Just thought I'd quote it in my bump and let me throw in a "Fu##ing A" too!
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akapisten
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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Mastadon, that's amazing. Thank you so much! Please forward a big thankyou to him next time you talk - I will hopefully find a way to thank him as well too. I feel very privileged to have that image in the film - I will triple check that he is credited right in the closing credits ;)
One last worry is that if Mike White is not using computers, I'm not sure how to get hold of a digital version of the image with sufficient resolution. I feel bad for asking more, but if you have some ideas how I can investigate further, I'm very grateful! BTW I'm gonna message Jon Long asking if his ok with using the image, so maybe he actually might have the image too..
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mastadon
Trad climber
crack addict
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Jun 22, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
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Kevin,
There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I'M GONNA TELL MIKE THAT IT WAS YOUR IDEA! The next time you see him, you tell him. Good luck with that…...
I doubt Mike was hammered when that was taken as I don't really remember him drinking much in those days. Other sources of alteration are another story.
We're not really that old, are we??
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jun 22, 2015 - 11:57pm PT
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Use it. Everyone else has...
JL
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akapisten
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2015 - 05:14am PT
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Thanks John! Carl
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Rollover
climber
Gross Vegas
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Jun 23, 2015 - 07:30am PT
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I'm guessing 6/21/15 was the 40th anniversary of the first NIAD?
Peter Metcalf was on the route when the trio of JB Largo and Billy passed them..
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:22am PT
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Wow, that photo of Billy (belaying), Bridwell (cleaning below), and me leading in the Stovelegs feels like something from the Pliocene.
The idea for the 3-man team was that once a pitch was dicked, the leader woluld tie off and a second man could dash up the trail rope with a fresh rack as the other man cleaned. This allowed the leader to bolt before the man cleaning could possibly arrive at the belay. Or something like that.
Except in the Stovelegs, Bridwell declared that the guy sprinting up the trail rope (Billy) need not carry a rack owing to fixed pins he thought would be there. Except they weren't. So running out the "Legs" (as pictured) was exciting (only .10a) during this first NIAD run.
JL
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:32am PT
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40 years later... and still considered a solid accomplishment for climbers. A real benchmark for most. Pretty cool.
Plus I think I like this guy Mike White! Ha.. a few more pieces of the picture to fill in a legendary story. Thanks
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