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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 19, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
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Yup, Ron Anderson, the Commander in Chief of the Supertopo Militia, has vanished. Along with all of his posts.
A total nutbar, but I'll miss him. I hope he's having fun plinking cans (and saving Texas from being taken over by the US Army).
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 03:20pm PT
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LoLocker
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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Yep, I'll miss him too. Intolerance is rampant here at many levels.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 19, 2015 - 03:24pm PT
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Wow. Wondered if that would ever happen. See ya Ron.
Kinda like watching a slow motion train wreck.
R.I.C.
(Rest In Conspiracy)
or R.I.P.
(Rest In Paranoia)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 19, 2015 - 03:33pm PT
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If I ever get my mind around what it is or was that causes this default to zero!
Can the offensive posts and crap lord who spewed just get a time out there time out a year suspension no need to go on,here.
I think then bit by bit trash talking political threads will end squished by the weight of their own offensive reteroric.
Guns, subject of hunting and shooting vast gulfs of disagreement between Climbers driving the show, was /has ruined the whole genre, the Internet is full of Skeletal Remains of once popular sites.
Some moderation is going to happen - it is a death & taxes sort of thing.
I was amazed a tree hugger like myself often found common ground with
The great -"Ron Anderson"- thank you sir for your attention in all matters.
Your post were educational - in more ways than one.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 19, 2015 - 03:54pm PT
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This sucks..
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 19, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
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Christsakes.....we need a little spice here. I'm not so old that I can only eat pablum?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 19, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
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Ron was a little bit of a redneck, and had some off the wall views for sure. But I think he had allot of valid points, but why consider that when its so easy to just stick your head in the sand and make fun of him.
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WBraun
climber
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May 19, 2015 - 04:07pm PT
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Bummer
To many pussies on this board and anonymous coward pussies.
I didn't give a sh!t what Ron said.
But pussies and anonymous pussie cowards cried like little girls all the time to what he said.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 19, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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I might not agree with Ron on some points of discussion, yet I thought he brought a lot of knowledge to the forum. In addition to his historical knowledge of the Tahoe area climbing, I particularly enjoyed his thread on taxidermy, his fishing and hunting experience and his wild land fire knowledge.
This sucks, this forum is becoming as lame as Mountain Project.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:13pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 19, 2015 - 04:15pm PT
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I hope all the pussified hand-wringers who couldn't stand having their
precious personas challenged feel all warm and fuzzy now in their little
sanitized self-righteous worlds, especially the really gutless wonders
piling it on.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:16pm PT
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^^^wtf are you talking about?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:25pm PT
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^^^ cognitive dissonance!
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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May 19, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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You know, I don't think Ron should've gotten whacked, if that's what happened. And even if he was, I don't think all his posts should've been deleted (unless he requested it, and perhaps not even then).
But as a woman, I'm really getting f-ing sick of people putting others down here by using terms associated with women: "pussies," "sissies," "crying like little girls."
Grow up, guys... yer not gonna get cooties...
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 19, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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Ron added value to this forum; sad to see him bail.
It would be nice if people here could be a little more tolerant of others perspectives.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 19, 2015 - 04:31pm PT
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No way Ron can stay gone, absolutely no way he can go cold turkey.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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Are some of you deliberately and disingenuously forgetting exactly how rude Ron could be.
Not to mention how rude some of his defenders can regularly be.
LAhiker those guys are rotted prostrates. lol
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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May 19, 2015 - 04:32pm PT
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I loved his avatar photo (Cosmic? post it up for old times sake?). It was a message. The man did not take himself too seriously. Too bad others did.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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Ron was just a spark, I blame the dry wood that couldn't keep themselves away from him.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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With Ron i've done a bit of climbing, a bit of hunting, a fair bit of work, and a whole lot of reading of his always entertaining posts. WTF is this place coming to? The Chief was right in one of his recent emails, " I give ST six months before it self destructs".
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 19, 2015 - 04:36pm PT
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Are some of you deliberately and disingenuously forgetting exactly how rude Ron could be.
Not to mention how rude some of his defenders can regularly be.
Not as rude as you can be Philo. I've never thought either of you should be banned... in fact I like both of you.
I don't expect everyone to be polite all the time or get along.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 19, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
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Those who are unapologetic as to Ron's dismisille.
Are in fact HATERS of free-speech.
THEIR Americanism should be questioned.
And maybe should be booted to Cuba.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 19, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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Don't fret, Philo. Bullies love to hunt in packs. Too much testosterone.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:50pm PT
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Don't fret Crankster, I don't fret the purveyors of sciolism.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 19, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
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I'm good, headed here, see ya...
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 04:54pm PT
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 19, 2015 - 04:59pm PT
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If Ron went involuntarily, then I no longer understand the protocols here. Ron's attacks differed little, if at all, from those of many other members who remain here. Besides, Ron posted significant climbing content, too. If anything, the personal attacks against Ron struck me as far worse than anything he originated.
Unless he took a voluntary sabbatical, it's not a good day for the Forum.
John
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 19, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
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philo said;
Are some of you deliberately and disingenuously forgetting exactly how rude Ron could be.
Not to mention how rude some of his defenders can regularly be.
climbski2 said;
Not as rude as you can be Philo. I've never thought either of you should be banned... in fact I like both of you.
I agree. At least Ron wasn't a PDF* artist like you philo
*post then quickly delete and "forget" even faster
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:20pm PT
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Philo posts who he is and has a long history as a climber. Ron as well.
Crankster on the other hand is a faceless troll. Lets see your face Crankster.. on a climb.. not just a picture of a rock if you are the climber you claim to be.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:21pm PT
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This makes me sad. We are all elements of something that has been built over years. It's falling apart like Kathmandu. Civility and tolerance are our rebar, and there doesn't seem to be enough of it here anymore to keep what was built, standing.
I tend to be kind of oblivious of the squabbles a lot of you seem to be having all the time with each other. I know Ron was controversial. He started a lot of political and firearm-related threads, which seemed to get a lot of people agitated. I always just ignore what doesn't interest me so it never bothered me.
But Ron also posted climbing content. He contributed a lot in that way. And the posts from him that I read were always civil. I've read plenty of posts directed at him that were personal attacks, very nasty.
To me personally he was always nice, even sweet. I hope to meet him and climb together some day.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 05:26pm PT
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Why can't pussies and dicks get along?
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
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Fish and Game sucks. Just my opinion.
If it wasn't for Fish and Game there wouldn't be much fish and game left. And your opinion is just like your opinion of Fish and Game.
Sorry, I was just channeling Ron. I can hear him.;)
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
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T-Hocking & Moose I fixed it. :)
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:52pm PT
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Damn!!! I just found the dirt.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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May 19, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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I'm sorry he's gone. I've never once been offended by his posts even if I often disagreed with him or when he criticized me; I understood his point of view. He was a devil's advocate and was also fun to test, which made him amusing at times. As John said, if he was booted, it's a low day for the forum.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 06:07pm PT
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And what, specifically, have I posted up this year that would drive you or any rational thinking person away from an online forum?
Was it the Panty Shield JPEG?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 19, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
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He's long gone, ridin' down to Tejas with the rodeo.
He will return with fattrad in toe and maybe Jody.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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If all of this seems terribly unfair you might ask yourself why those who are now persona non grata got the boot? Why are they gone and horrible SOBs like me, having never been banned, booted, censored or frozen are still here?
Put that in yer duck and smoke it.
We call it gettin' Wernered. 😉
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 19, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
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ummmmmmmmI LOVE PHILO so there.
If Philo ain't welcome here this ain't a climberS forum.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 19, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
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Screenshot of his profile page?
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shady
Trad climber
hasbeen
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May 19, 2015 - 06:51pm PT
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Fup-duck's welcome here because this is a climberS forum.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 19, 2015 - 06:55pm PT
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I love Ron...I'd give him a hug but he'd probably shoot me with his M-1 carbine....
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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May 19, 2015 - 07:01pm PT
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So tragic.
How you going
to know
which
brown skin
to hate
now.
Some dig
they own
grave.
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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May 19, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
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Bummer, Ron added some diversity here. He took more insults than anyone and did it well for the most part. Something positive might be that Ron's stalkers might post less to this forum now. Probably not.
The cool thing about Jim Brennan is he is the same in real life. Uses his brain and has strong opinions, but respects other people's views.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 19, 2015 - 07:09pm PT
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All around the mulberry bush
The monkey chased the weasel.
The monkey thought 'twas all in fun.
Pop! goes the weasel.
A penny for a spool of thread,
A penny for a needle.
That's the way the money goes.
Pop! goes the weasel.
Up and down the City Road,
In and out of the Eagle,
That's the way the money goes.
Pop! goes the weasel.
Half a pound of tuppenney rice,
Half a pound of treacle,
Mix it up and make it nice,
Pop! goes the weasel.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 19, 2015 - 07:09pm PT
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http://youtu.be/l2a-_dvxtN0
The Rockman.
From Nielson's The Point.
You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.
Edit to add to the below post...
WTF?
Over.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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May 19, 2015 - 07:27pm PT
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Behold! Another thread for Elitist Turd Pirates wielding the pompous taint hammer.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 19, 2015 - 07:29pm PT
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^Was gonna sound you on the mis-spelling (wielding/welding?), but how can I with
"pompous taint hammer"
Y'all should get that one tradmarked.
EDIT: You got it now Dave
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 19, 2015 - 07:37pm PT
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I'm sorry Ron is gone. He was not anywhere near as rude as a number of people who still post.
And deleting all of his posts....what a way to run/ruin a forum! Its stunning.
Just like when Bruce Kay was booted - so much invaluable CLIMBING content gone forever. Both Ron and Bruce have done a lot, and were first person sources of information and history, which they often shared here.
edit - thinking about what is gone... lots of Tahoe climbing history, DanO stories...outrageous to delete this.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 19, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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Ron's gone.
But before he left, he handed the torch to Philo.
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 19, 2015 - 07:42pm PT
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Later Ron. Come climb with us.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Behold! Another thread for Elitist Turd Pirates wielding the pompous taint hammer.
Bang bang.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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May 19, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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Moderation sucks. Hopefully Ron went of his own free will.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 19, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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For crisssakes the guy was a total nut job. Who cares if he is gone?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 19, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
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Moderation sucks. Hopefully Ron went of his own free will.
Not likely.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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May 19, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
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Moderation is rarely moderate.
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Norton
Social climber
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May 19, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
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how can you go of your own free will when only the forum administrator can deactivate your account and delete all your posts?
I don't know what happened but clearly Chris or RJ Spurrier wanted Ron out of here.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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May 19, 2015 - 08:43pm PT
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I can't believe I'm saying this but moderation is boring.
Living life safe is boring.
Live life, Love Life, Love and help others. Cheers, lynnie
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 19, 2015 - 09:10pm PT
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I think Ron got suffocated by Hillary's beef curtains...?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 19, 2015 - 09:13pm PT
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Ron is a bore. A tool and a bore. Good riddance.
And Werner, were you really surprised that Potter stuffed? That's stoopid. Anyone could see that he was headed for disaster. I'm tired of your tone. Don't you get tired of being wrong?
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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May 19, 2015 - 09:14pm PT
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Like a steam locomotive, rollin' down the track....
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 19, 2015 - 09:16pm PT
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You are mistaken, cosmic. I just kick sand back in the face of bullies people like you enable.
And calling me "Crankloon" is an attack. That makes you a
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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May 19, 2015 - 09:17pm PT
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Friggin' outta hand ... bring on a Yellow Card, why the heck not.
Words to live by:
Grow up, guys... yer not gonna get cookies...
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 19, 2015 - 09:19pm PT
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Ron Who? Never heard of the guy. Can neither deny nor confirm his existence. I know nothing. This must be some sort of conspiracy.
Seriously, if Ron was silenced and all his important contributions (and likely a lot of non-important ones as well) were removed, this sucks. Might as well subtract a few of his haters while you are grinding axes. And turn this forum into some lame, tame, moderation junk show like MP.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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May 19, 2015 - 09:22pm PT
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Just got off the Phone with Ron A.
His internet is down ...
Man, when the man takes you down, he don't fook around!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 19, 2015 - 09:38pm PT
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 19, 2015 - 09:40pm PT
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It's easy to tell the difference between a considered response and a reactionary Knowitall, isn't it?
-stupid american non-believer in conspiracies and fancy creation mythologies.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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May 19, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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you're killin' me DMT!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 19, 2015 - 10:08pm PT
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Stuffing animals is a creepy thing. What's up with all the fear and hate and killing and stuff?
Nobody gets laid when Ron comes to the party. Tool.
What happens when a thread devolves to insults?
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Tunnel Greeters!!!!!^^^^^ that's fukin hilarious! There's a metaphor in there.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 19, 2015 - 10:20pm PT
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^^^^ 4 out'a 5 of your lines are insults : (
So tell us, what does it do for a thread to devolves into insults?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 19, 2015 - 10:25pm PT
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Boy, I always feel so much better after insulting somebody who's gone.
Just like being back in third grade.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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May 19, 2015 - 10:30pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^what about Jeremy's Mom?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 19, 2015 - 10:46pm PT
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 19, 2015 - 10:56pm PT
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Flippin impressed! That's some high quality Trash Talking. Nice.
Your mom's a moose.
Ain't no maths in the good book except 1+1+1=1 which is pretty squishy maths.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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May 19, 2015 - 11:01pm PT
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Nobody who understands that joke even knows how to laugh.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 19, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
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One thing I observed about Ron is he never seemed to cross that line of insulting to the point of getting whack-o-moled. But I have no doubt the admins greased him and his posts. I'm also certain no explanation from them will be given. The new rules around here are as clear as mud. Whatever.
That said it is not surprising to me that it eventually happened. In his "prime" there was not a thread on the front page that he didn't inject his bat-shit crazy opines into. Many left because they were tired of that and I know this at least in part because of personal conversations with my friends that use to give a sh#t about this forum and just gave up caring as I did.
I'm not trying to be mean in any way but I really did wonder how the chemicals he exposed himself to while stuffing dead things affected his brain. Anyone that doesn't think he thinks there is a relationship to shitters in walmart overflooding and Jade Helm 15 being Broke Obummers exercises to take over Texas simply was not paying attention. His obsession with Benghazi and love and defense of the anti-american as$hole Mr. Bundy are proof.
If you got something out of conversation with him then great! This place won't be better or worse off w/o him. A number have been whacked and nothing has changed. We still have our mayor.
A couple years ago if he had been whacked I might have been stoked. At this point I really don't care one way or the other. Rarely did I read his bat-shit crazy posts because of greasemonkey. Hell... if I had any self esteem I'd grease myself. But Mr.E still hangs here and I like to check in on him. Werner too. locker and cosmic. and my new flying buddy squishy. I could go on.
Now can we have a group hug? At least with those of us that are leftovers.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 20, 2015 - 01:18am PT
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Nature, you "old-time citizens and female equivalents" seem to have it down.
I'm relatively new here but comfortable on the sideline, so to speak, in the citadel inside the ring of bastions called The Flames.
Long ago (relatively speaking) Ron the Mon started posting to many of my threads and to The Flames' posts. We got on famously and he was given Flames approval to become the first new Flame in forty-odd years. ( And they were some pretty odd years, believe it!)
It's a part of me that I TRY to stay loyal to friends. Here online it's not hard to know who is your friend. One way is to use the PM function to contact other poster boys and girls, initiating, one hopes, a saner and more thorough dialog, and getting to know each other.
Another way is to attend the functions like Facelift and the gatherings n get-togethers, which might see you roping up with someone you like and feel gooc about on the vertical plane.
I never got much of a chance to do that last bit with Ron, but I still feel that loyalty to a friend now that he's been disappeared.
Nature's way seems a good way to be. I say hey there. And I mean it.
And to the folks at Terrapin STation, thanks for reaching out last week. You are marvelous peeps to the max and your family all LOOK marvelous, too, as my friend Hernando of Hernando's Bide-Away would say.
Yeah, old Ron left in disgust last year and came on back again. That is quite a fan club he has here, too, I must say. His entertainment value seemed to wane after a time, and he's not posted to the Flames hardly at all, if any--I'd have to look--since he woke up to find my thread missing.
Sorry about that one, Mr. Lurkington Rong II. Or is it III?
I know two Rongs couldn't come together on the right if they tried, either. They would end up sniping away at each other> (No scopes allowed! See, this is a MANLY SPORT, this sniping and character assassination as practiced on the SUPER taco.)
Bck to my hole in the baseboard.
You will be missed, but it's intentional. As you scamper off into the desert, the boys are whangin' away, seein' how close they can come.
They'll run out of ammo eventually, just like they'll find new targets.
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philo
Trad climber
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May 20, 2015 - 05:48am PT
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So do you, the few, the proud the Ronines, really not see how he bears some responsibility here? Do you truly feel that the now banned and restless bore no responsibility for their own demise? So Fatrad, LEB, SkipT, The Chief and Ron A were all innocent victims of a conspiracy of LibTard hall monitors?
And in the news...
Boston’s WRKO announced Tuesday that it will be 100 percent Rush-free. The station, billed as “Boston’s Talk Station,” is the largest yet to lose Limbaugh. The breakups began in 2012 when Limbaugh went from controversial to offensive in his attacks on Sandra Fluke, then a Georgetown Law student, who testified before Congress about contraception.
Advertisers began fleeing shortly thereafter, and many stations have dropped him since.
WRKO did not set a date for Limbaugh’s final show on its airwaves.
Previously, Indianapolis’ WIBC had been the largest market to cancel Limbaugh, but now Boston, the 10th largest market in the United States, holds that honor.
Read more: http://bluenationreview.com/boston-radio-flushes-rush-limbaugh/#ixzz3agMzFH2H
Have to wonder how his fans will handle it?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 20, 2015 - 07:30am PT
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"I assume administration looks from time to time at the front page and see a lot of political bullshhitt. "
Admin's responses here are 100% complaint generated.
Seeing how Anderson's last several posts were all grieving for Dean - Graham, someone must have dug into the archives to find something to complain about. Working to offend themselves, apparently.
Who bitched?
Seeing how Philo is back hot & heavy all of a sudden, and is extremely pleased with himself, that'd make him suspect #1.
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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May 20, 2015 - 07:36am PT
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But look how the board once again is full of climbing topics !!
Who's next ?
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ontheedgeandscaredtodeath
Social climber
SLO, Ca
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May 20, 2015 - 07:42am PT
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I had no problem with Ron but the fact of the matter is he posted crazy ass shite like advocating for armed resistance to federal officers and the Walmart lunacy. If I owned this forum I would ban crazy tin hatters too.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 07:46am PT
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Clearly the Nefarious Content Cabal has their own secret tunnel network to the SuperTopo
Robespierre Chowder and Marching Society headqurters under Philo's house. How else
can his immunity be explained?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 20, 2015 - 08:14am PT
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If you don't like a thread, don't open it.
hard to do that when... as I pointed out...
In his "prime" there was not a thread on the front page that he didn't inject his bat-shit crazy opines into.
at that point what do I do? go back six pages to find a thread he hadn't polluted?
otherwise that was what I did until I implemented greasemonkey.
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couchmaster
climber
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May 20, 2015 - 08:25am PT
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Meh, I liked Ron, thought he was a good person. However, once he made up his mind on some bat sh#t crazy thing he didn't seem to listen well to others. So I walked away from reading his posts for the most part. It was working fine for me, for those who needed to get the last word in (Hello Philo: What say Craig Fry?) maybe not so much:-)
Say the same thing I said to Philo and Craig Fry as Dr F. when they got axed earlier: I wish him well. I'd tie in all day with all 3 of those guys. Then we'd argue politics at the belay stations I suspect. Mostly cause they are so wrong. LOL
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 20, 2015 - 08:29am PT
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eKat - the last thing I'm doing is going outside. It's been raining for two weeks straight and there is no end in sight. we went from 45% snow pack to 90% snow pack in 10 days. So no flying any time soon. But I did manage to get a nice shiny logo made.
jonnyrig - he provided climbing content? I'm being honest I never saw hardly any of it if he did. a 95:5 noise to content ratio will do that. But if that is the case you are correct. Everyone lost. But this isn't the first time and there are others that have been whack-o-moled that had a ton of climbing content.
The whole scorched earth mentality of the admins makes no sense. but then it seems to me this site isn't about climbing but rather the revenue it'll generate from banner impressions.
The idea of freezing threads is another head scratcher. keeping the politards in one place was a good idea and most went along with it.
oh well...
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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May 20, 2015 - 08:29am PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 08:31am PT
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Vitya, there are two t's in 'watt'.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 20, 2015 - 08:37am PT
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Vitya, there are two t's in 'watt'.
He learned to spell from Whitemeat.
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philo
Trad climber
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May 20, 2015 - 09:41am PT
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To clarify for the benefit of Chaz, Cosmic and Couchmaster I was never banned, booted, censored or whack a moled. In fact I was asked directly by the admin why I was gone. Simply put I took a several month sabbatical from the forum. I was claimed by the same detractors here on this thread to be the rudest poster on the ST Forum. I lurked and noticed nothing changed in my absence. Then The Chief was gone and much of the vitriol dissipated.
I started posting again earlier this year and have maintained my stances on issues but pursued a less caustic less rude approach. But that didn't stop posters from taking their obligatory pot shots at me. No skin off my nose. I also had nothing to do with the booting. I didn't complain to the admin staff about Ron or any of his threads. Ron managed to get himself hoisted on his own petard. His booting was an admin decision. Maybe instead of trying to assess blame on an imagined boogie man you might ponder what got the posters banned?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard
A petard was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications. It is of French origin and dates back to the sixteenth century.[1] A typical petard was a conical or rectangular metal object containing 2–3 kg (5 or 6 pounds) of gunpowder, with a slow match as a fuse.
If a petard detonated prematurely, the petardier would be lifted by the explosion.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 09:54am PT
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Ron managed to get himself foisted on his own petard
Well, there you have it folks. If you impose yerself on yer own weapon
yer outta here!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 20, 2015 - 09:58am PT
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I agree with Philo, Ron was his own worst enemy. I don't feel sorry for him or do I miss him.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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May 20, 2015 - 09:58am PT
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It is so Effed up! & it is Hoisted, as in lifted, not foisted, I think
But back to what happened to Ron. . .
Ooo
He who is the one who can not control his crazy when crazy is out of control, & out of place,
He Is the one who loses his space,
Ron you matador of the impossible,
was it good for you?
Crank out a Trip report that will make us all drool
then stuff an animal that you shot
Get on doing other stuff and name sends rude names
Names that incite and are vulgar; philo is a k-kE or G M S B; Gnome's Mom sucs balls,
Trash talk is the trash Just take out the trash!
Climbing content lost , from historical to new,
what is going on in the great minds that run this shindig?
Is throwing the baby out with the bath water really the way To go?
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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May 20, 2015 - 10:00am PT
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Ponder The Paradox Of Supertopo: " When stupidity is lacking all is lost."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 20, 2015 - 10:19am PT
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I liked Ron just fine, especially years ago.
But somehow it did seem that he just got stranger and stranger the last couple years.
Even if he's a good ol' climber dude, which I know he is, the levels of anti-govt and anti-brown people vitriol he has been putting out is disturbing.
And no, it has nothing to do with lining up with the sheep, it has to do with his personal behavior.
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Kelly Morgan, Whitefish MT
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May 20, 2015 - 10:26am PT
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I suggest we all come together in remembrance of a fallen comrade. Three cheers for Ron- BENGHAZI!!! BENGHAZI!!!!!! BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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May 20, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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Bunch of bar flies, the bar tender just threw out the worst of you. This is what happens to a man who clearly spent 100% of his waking hours on Supertopo.
Good on Chris, he clearly stated a few years ago that 1 person dominating every thread with a bunch of sh#t isn't something he is interested in hosting.
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John M
climber
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May 20, 2015 - 10:34am PT
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Jade Helm 15.. thats all I'm going to say. he warned us something was going to happen. And now it has. the government shut him down. I'm telling you. Only the government has the power to just disappear someone.
Oh man.. I probably said too much.
Viva la Bundy Ranch!!!!
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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May 20, 2015 - 10:45am PT
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Er, correct me if I’m wrong, but if an offending person goes too far after a while and gets the boot, can’t they return with another avatar and email address? Then might they not be not quite so offensive? Can’t the boot send a signal and force a sort-of time out?
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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May 20, 2015 - 10:53am PT
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I would like to know if he got booted or he just left and asked for his posts to be pulled.
Anybody know?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 20, 2015 - 11:01am PT
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There Is a LOT of Bat-shit crazy OPINERS on this site BESIDES, Ron. That's what made this site so awesome. If you don't like a thread, don't open it.
Exactly the problem. Those crowing about Ron's disappearance often posted meaner content than Ron, and I still think the insults directed at Ron far outnumbered the insults he hurled. The Insulter/Insultee ratio was even lower for LEB.
Banning is beginning to look like the Supreme Court found U.S. capital punishment to be in 1976 - like being struck by lightning.
I have to disagree with Cosmic about the party line, though. Dr. F and Joe Hedge, among others, also go the boot, (in my opinion, to the Forum's impoverishment) and the intersection of their views and those of Ron is pretty much the null set.
John
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 20, 2015 - 11:04am PT
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I'm boycotting ST until an explanation is given.
Who wants to labor on expressing themselves if, down the road, some capricious person can redact all your efforts?
Are there any other Rons who opt out?
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 20, 2015 - 11:12am PT
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Banning is one thing, taking ALL their content, including the climbing content, is another. If he requested it, fine. If it was done unilaterally, not fine.
edit: question answered by RJ. Seems Ron requested his content pulled if he should get banned. Thanks.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 20, 2015 - 11:12am PT
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^^^ yep
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 20, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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Who wants to labor on expressing themselves if, down the road, some capricious person can redact all your efforts?
Ron, apparently.
sounds like some of you arbiters of punditry need to check out Wordpress.com. Anyone can do it!!!!111666
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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I'm boycotting Outdoor Gear Lab until I get some satisfaction.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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Banning is one thing, taking ALL their content, including the climbing content, is another. If he requested it, fine. If it was done unilaterally, not fine.
Ron was one of the most prolific ST posters ever -- probably over 30,000 posts. Sorting through all those posts to find the 2% that were climbing-related would take someone a month. Simply not going to happen on a site like this.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 20, 2015 - 11:25am PT
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However if one does a google search for various climbing areas ..say woodfords or donner history..rons posts would have come up and been quite relevant..
Unless requested, this deleting of information not found anywhere else should stop. It's not just Ron.. we have lost a ton of unique no where else to be found climbing history due to this terrible policy.
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philo
Trad climber
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May 20, 2015 - 11:47am PT
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Reposting as this may be the single most apropos thing I've ever posted to the Taco.
http://youtu.be/l2a-_dvxtN0
The Rockman.
From Nielson's The Point.
You see what you want to see and you hear what you want to hear.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 20, 2015 - 11:49am PT
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are you folks so deluded you think that principles like censorship and free speech apply to stupor topo? this ain't no free press boyz..and by the way all that precious historical, archival fruit of your labor is owned lock stock and barrel by chris. your 'efforts' are to be archived or vaporized at his whim...which is exactly what y'all signed up for...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 11:56am PT
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Mods started a thread saying they do not want ST to be a forum for whatever comes to mind.
Hillary is clearly behind this.
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John M
climber
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May 20, 2015 - 11:56am PT
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Tad..
Nature AND.. Timid had it right.. Chris asked for people to slow down creating contentious threads. Ron laughed at that and then started 3 threads on the same basic subject.
I bet Chris asked some of his friends what they thought of his changes, and they said that Ron was still doing his same ol same ol.. so when Chris took a look and saw that it was true, Ron got the boot.
you kind of have to get into Chris' thinking. If he posts black and white rules, then some people go right up to them and flirt with them just to flaunt it and show that they can. Look at philo.. Mr. who me?.. I never did nothing wrong. never banned, never yadda yadda yadda.. never whatever. But we all know he has been a pain in the ass. Chris puts up with that to a point, but once you reach a certain noise level, then adios.
Ron did this to himself. He knows it. We all do if we just pay attention and stop needing exact lines. We know what being respectful is. Its not black and white. It doesn't mean you can never do or say something contentious. But it does mean you can't go on and on.
As for Werner.. he is pushing ya'lls buttons. There have been times when there has been good conservations on contentious subjects with intelligent decent people, but some people have just taken over those conversations and so they aren't possible anymore, so Werner just pushes buttons to wind people up so maybe they will go away. Its not really working, but ….. It does reveal that people just don't get it.
Edit: vvvvvv what RJ said..
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RJ Spurrier
SuperTopo staff member
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May 20, 2015 - 11:56am PT
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Ron had a long history of posting on SuperTopo, including many posts of high quality on climbing topics. But, he was also a person that generated a lot of complaints about inappropriate content, as he occasionally stepped over the line.
Ron received a number of warnings about inappropriate content, and had many posts deleted in a precision strike manner along the way.
As complaints continued over time, he was warned that continued inappropriate posts would result in his account being deactivated.
Recently, after a long build up, and continued complaints from other members, we reached the point where Chris decided it was time to deactivate his account. This was regrettably done, given Ron's many positive contributions.
Ron had requested that if he was banned, that all of his posts and photos be removed from the site. We complied with that request. His many quality climbing related posts are a significant loss to our community and this discussion forum. But, we felt his request was reasonable, and we respected his wishes.
Ron had many interesting things to say in his many posts on this site, and he expressed thoughtful and engaging opinions on many topics. A small percentage of his posts were outstanding climbing related contributions. While some of his posts might have been considered trolling, his posts were most often respectful and thoughtful. His OT threads were also quite popular, and it is clear that many people found them interesting and participated in those discussions. If we were focused on traffic, we'd encourage such OT posts. Unfortunately, many of those topics are in areas that we simply feel are better discussed on other sites, and we'd prefer not to host them on the SuperTopo climbing forum. These types of heated OT discussions also tend to give rise to heated emotions, and personal attacks (rarely from Ron, but often directed at him or others participating in the OT threads).
There are a great many places on the internet where the kinds of discussions Ron most commonly posted on, or started threads on, are appreciated. SuperTopo is simply not the right venue. We hope Ron will find an alternative site to express his many and thoughtful opinions. We'd be happy to have him back too, if he limited posts much more frequently to the kinds of things the climbing forum is intended for and avoid inappropriate posts.
We wish Ron the best and hope he finds another site that has a focus more in line with the kinds of posts he most often made here.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 20, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
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Thanks, RJ. Its seems from your post, though, that getting the axe depends on ST getting complaints from other users. I wouldn't be surprised if, in Ron's case, some of the complainors either posted, or ignored posts by others throwing insults at Ron. If so, I offer a modest proposal:
When a user complains about another user, we should analyze the previous 100 posts of the complainor and the complainee. If the insult/benign ratio of the complainor exceeds that of the complainee, the complainor gets the axe!
That might be a better enforcement mechanism for civility.
John
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 20, 2015 - 12:10pm PT
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DMT, modest proposals are meant to be ridiculous.
John
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Trashman
Trad climber
SLC
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May 20, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
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There are a great many places on the internet where the kinds of discussions Ron most commonly posted on, or started threads on, are appreciated. SuperTopo is simply not the right venue.
I wish this popped up every time someone started a thread, kind of like Don't Be a jerk on that other site.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 20, 2015 - 12:22pm PT
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Locker, that's not the picture that came to mind when I saw the first four letters.
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 20, 2015 - 12:24pm PT
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RJ,
Thank you for the reply.
John
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 12:28pm PT
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Thank you RJ for a reasoned response and a rational explanation.
I'm just wondering if the leg humping can now stop.
At least until the poison ivy abates.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 20, 2015 - 12:29pm PT
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Vapalyze
thanks RJ. I stand corrected.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - May 20, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
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Thanks RJ. Confirms what most of us thought. Suicide by cop, so to speak.
And yeah, Ron sure did get some people's knickers in a twist.
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RJ Spurrier
SuperTopo staff member
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May 20, 2015 - 12:31pm PT
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When a user complains about another user, we should analyze the previous 100 posts of the complainor and the complainee.
Thanks John for the suggestion.
But, I don't think we're going to adopt a policy of investigating the complainer with the same urgency we might use to look into a complaint.
Allow me to explain. Most complaints are about one or more specific posts, and thus can be evaluated by looking at the thread in question, at both the posts which we're flagged by a member as objectionable, and the broader discussion to see the build-up to, and after-math.
Chris generally prefers that we have a light hand in terms of moderation, and I think many members appreciate that. As a result, moderation is often only a result of receiving a complaint. As you know, we invite anyone to let us know if they find inappropriate content, and we make an effort to look into those complaints regardless of the source. However, one thing we do consider in such a complaint is the credibility of the person making the complaint, such as their length of time on the forum, the quality of their posts, etc. Complaints from long-time members who have made quality contributions are naturally given additional credibility as you would expect.
However, our focus in looking into a complaint is primarily on the content being complained about, not on the source. We admittedly do not energetically investigate the whistleblower, in the manner you recommend, and instead try to look objectively at the content being complained about. Please note that complaints are not given a knee-jerk reaction. Chris is not the kind of person who acts willy-nilly on a complaint, but he has a principled, light-handed, philosophy of moderation that is focused on the content posted on the site. If the content is the kind of thing that deserves some form of action (most often just deleting an inappropriate post, sometimes issuing a warning in cases of higher severity, and very rarely deactivating a member).
It is not uncommon for us to find multiple inappropriate posts, from multiple members, in the course of looking into a complaint. Frequently inappropriate posts occur when a discussion becomes heated and degrades into personal attacks. And, as a result, it is not uncommon for one complaint to result in the removal of multiple posts, with warnings issued to multiple members.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 20, 2015 - 12:38pm PT
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Thanks, RJ. Again, I gave my proposal largely in jest, but not entirely. I wondered if some of the people complaining about Ron's posts were living in glass houses and throwing stones. And DMT is right; Ron's erasure did not surprise me, but it disappoints me, particularly since he apparently chose to "commit suicide by cop."
As for TR's, I've been itching to get out so I can post a few, but an unusual number of family obligations, plus my infamous ability to attract bad weather when I actually have the time, has prevented anything but the gym for 2015. Once that changes, I'm in - although mine will be no match for Micronut's.
Cheers
John
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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May 20, 2015 - 12:43pm PT
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I never complained about Ron to get him excluded.
But I have to admit that there are times when I think America is very strange. On one side, a twelve year old boy critizing the president and writing that he wishes him dead, can find armed police at the door minutes after posting the message on the internet. On the other side, Ron, an old man, can post a message on ST suggesting someone should drop an atomic bomb to kill 300.000.000 muslims, get no clear official reaction, and collect a lot of sympathy from many forumers when he is excluded.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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May 20, 2015 - 12:44pm PT
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Any time I can get free, DMT. I've only done it in climbing shoes, though - no roller skates or cross-country skis. When are you free? I should add that normally at this time of year, we need to start really early in the morning.
John
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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May 20, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
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So this old guy had some weird sh#t laying around and posted it.
I wouldn't call anything I saw him post valuable, nowhere near Jello telling us first hand about the Eiger or somesuch.
Can't say I saw that many of his reported 100,000,000 posts, either, what a fuking waste of valuable time on this planet.
Good riddance, no loss.
RJ gets Supertopo Ambassador of the Year award for a long post saying basically the same thing I just said.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 20, 2015 - 01:27pm PT
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I always just ignore what doesn't interest me so it never bothered me.
My philosophy as well. A lot of good people here; a few jerks trolling, Ignore the jerks.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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May 20, 2015 - 01:28pm PT
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Cool!! Learned some etymology today;
A petard was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls when breaching fortifications. It is of French origin and dates back to the sixteenth century.[1] A typical petard was a conical or rectangular metal object containing 2–3 kg (5 or 6 pounds) of gunpowder, with a slow match as a fuse.
If a petard detonated prematurely, the petardier would be lifted by the explosion.
Thanks Philo
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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May 20, 2015 - 01:30pm PT
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Ron may have been a weirdo or whatever you guys want to call him, at least he wasn't a straight up genuine as#@&%e like some of you.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 20, 2015 - 01:38pm PT
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Not. Going. To. ... .. . Click.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
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JRig that was actually from earlier this year. After decades of bashing Unscathed through the toxic forests of poison ivy in the Black Canyon this was my first ever case. I got it from a branch just starting to bud in the Flatirons. It went Systemic for a while and really sucked. But I learned some valuable info. An inexpensive and effective product is Dawn for dishes. I'm going to add some to my 1st aid kit from now on.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
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It got pretty gross but I've heard other people's horror stories - like getting it in the eyes or lungs - that I feel pretty lucky all things considered.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 20, 2015 - 01:58pm PT
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Thanks for the explanation RJ.. If Ron asked that his material be deleted then that's the way it is. Disappointed but I respect it.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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May 20, 2015 - 02:04pm PT
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It got pretty gross but I've heard other people's horror stories - like getting it in the eyes or lungs - that I feel pretty lucky all things considered.
Just wait til you run into some poodle dog. That sh#t stays with you for months.
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bit'er ol' guy
climber
the past
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May 20, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
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it's been done before, kiss off to ST. no one cares. heres the thing. if you quit ST you can't go back. But Rons seems so insecure and fearful that I'm sure he's peepin' in to see what people are saying about him. Really? deleted all his post? it's a climbing forum, lightin up dude!
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kennyt
Trad climber
Oregon
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May 20, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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May 20, 2015 - 02:39pm PT
I have a serious question.
Do any of you, who are complaining that Ron's climbing content is gone, actually care enough to successfully search for it and read it again?
Really?
Thanks.
I would.
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thebravecowboy
climber
liberated libertine
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May 20, 2015 - 02:51pm PT
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I'm mostly going to miss the way he made me feel so right and not Rong about most everything.
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kennyt
Trad climber
Oregon
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May 20, 2015 - 03:08pm PT
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May 20, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
KennyT sighting!
Mark, Spark, and I have some plans for you. You have to come to Minden next week.
Maybe Ron can provide a stripper too!
;-)
Moose
I'll know Monday. Would like to get down, does ron have some strippers on call?
Ekat, Ron has some really cool Woodfords stuff that was enjoyable, and his guidebook was still very helpful.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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May 20, 2015 - 04:05pm PT
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I am with Jefe.
I would hang with him and burn one and/or drink a beer, but the dude stepped on his d*ck here and paid the price. No one to blame but Ron.
He will probably come back at some point and hopefully bring is climbing related toys with him.
Let it go.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 20, 2015 - 04:25pm PT
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Well I appreciate RJ's explanation, but agree with JE that we need to look at the complainers too.
Diversity needs to be embraced rather than "moderated".
Besides, how will I now be able to find out how to become a tunnel greeter at Walmart.
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kennyt
Trad climber
Oregon
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May 20, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
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i was told Ron lives close to a whore house. He can get us a stripper fer sure!
LOL
Moose
Moose,Yeah, you remember what happened last time ron brought the strippers, I'm not sure any of us could handle that again.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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May 20, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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Besides, how will I now be able to find out how to become a tunnel greeter at Walmart.
I'm lookin for a new job; if you get any tips, let me know. I'll sign a non compete clause if necessary.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 04:51pm PT
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Johntp if you are applying for a WalMart tunnel greater job there is no competition. Walmart won't allow any competition. So a non-compete clause won't be required. There is however a deadly serious non- disclosure clause.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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May 20, 2015 - 05:16pm PT
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Hey that's too bad. He seemed like less of a jerk than me, even if he was always wrong and I'm always right. I volunteer as tribute!
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 07:00pm PT
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^^^ love it Cosmic!
But I have a question for you regarding your current vehemence towards me.
Are you mad because I never took you up on all your offers to stay at your house on my climbing trips to Vegas or does the lap top I gave you not have enough memory?
Are you upset that I made Ron mad or that I made disparaging comments about gun violence?
Is that it? Because honestly man I can't think of a single mean thing I've ever done or said to you.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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If you've missed the vitriol hurled my way and focused instead on my rudeness then you've missed a lot. Ron received several warnings for his unacceptable posts. He wasn't as Lilly white as he has been painted in absentia
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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May 20, 2015 - 07:34pm PT
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This thread is a convergence of panties bunching.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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May 20, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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You got the picture Jimmy. Now go talk some sense into your friends heads that are gone boys and girls. Speaking of friends; how's old Bruce Kay doing?
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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May 20, 2015 - 07:59pm PT
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Leave panties out of it. So far I haven't seen a single person who actually wears panties whining on the thread...and there has been a lot of whining.
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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May 20, 2015 - 08:11pm PT
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^^^ Not whining.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 08:12pm PT
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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May 20, 2015 - 08:18pm PT
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Ya know,as a casual observer,I definitely find it a little unsettling that Philo seems to be happy/almost giddy about people bowing out and getting banned lately.Hmmmm???
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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Ok Capt explain how you assertain "emotion" from text, specifically anything I have posted?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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May 20, 2015 - 08:26pm PT
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That's great Jim. Old Bruce must still posess some of that cat like grace of youth to have landed perfectly enough on his feet to just suffer a compression fracture. Next time you talk to him tell him the invite to climb on my NV tailing piles still stands. No falls allowed though.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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May 20, 2015 - 08:32pm PT
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Oh gawwd philo!!! I won't take the bait or go down yer freaky little hallway.Just an outsiders observation.Goodbye.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 20, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
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Gettin Wernered.
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 21, 2015 - 06:07am PT
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guess who...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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May 21, 2015 - 06:07am PT
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Ron you will be missed
come back as another user...
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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May 21, 2015 - 07:35am PT
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So can we have spicy food in this place, or do we have to eat the hospital food?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 21, 2015 - 07:44am PT
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^^^^^^^ HaHaHaHaHaHa!
You know, I'm totally not regretting turning off the cable TV, this place is such a freak show!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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May 21, 2015 - 08:05am PT
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Thanks very much for posting, RJ.
I support the Site owner's policy in general. It's too bad it's even necessary to have intervention, but there clearly is a reason sometimes.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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May 21, 2015 - 10:01am PT
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continued complaints from other members
Crying to CMac b/c you don't like what someone has to say on a public internet forum? Really?!?! The highest form of d#@&%ery. How about not read his posts? Ron seems like a good dude to me, with a spicy personality. I guess he's a little hard on the folks here who lack spine or sac.
Yep.... I can't imagine taking the time to whine to a "moderator" about someone posting something I don't like... Pretty pathetic.
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splitclimber
climber
Sonoma County
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May 21, 2015 - 11:01am PT
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i know I'm adding to the post count, but it makes me sick this is getting more attention and posts than some very important and meaningful threads here.
Part Duex is what I first thought too. Same as it ever was.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 21, 2015 - 12:46pm PT
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This is almost like a free for all in the dark, but I am disturbed by something Crimpergirl said;
So far I haven't seen a single person who actually wears panties whining on the thread.
Either this is a broad assumption (pardon the pun) or else all these Boulder ST get togethers are a bit more casual than expected,..
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 21, 2015 - 02:02pm PT
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About Ron:
1) He seriously attempted to organize support for a massacre of 300 million Muslims.
2) Ron certainly seemed to be trying to encourage the overthrow of the U.S. government by armed militias.
3) He was a dedicated supporter of the "right" of citizens to own automatic weapons with large capacity magazines - weapons that exist for only one logical purpose - to efficiently kill large numbers of human beings, as was so clearly demonstrated at Sandy Hook.
These views are not acceptable to civilized human beings, and certainly don't belong on Supertopo.
Climbing is supposed to promote brother (and sister)hood, not death.
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WBraun
climber
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May 21, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
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The rule book is there when you step out of the box.
Inside the box is full of stupid rules .....
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tolman_paul
Trad climber
Anchorage, AK
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May 21, 2015 - 03:03pm PT
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If the government dictated that all rock climbs had to be rated 5.8 with protection only from bolts placed exactly 3 meters apart, how would you feel?
Its so ironic that there are those that supposedly enjoy a challenging and potentially dangerous sport can't handle the zero danger activity of sitting on their but behind a computer having a conversation with someone you can't see, who doesn't know your name and you have no likelihood of ever meeting.
Weak sauce.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 21, 2015 - 03:09pm PT
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moosedrool: In the give and take of reasoned debate, I at least try to participate in kind. I don't recall the least bit of compromise from Ron regarding any of the aforementioned points - towards either me or anyone else.
tolman_paul: I don't blame anyone for seeking anonymity on this thread, considering the legitimate fear of getting shot.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 21, 2015 - 03:22pm PT
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Can you discuss concepts and ideas instead of attacking the character?
Moosie, they don't teach that in third grade here. Maybe in Poland, but not here.
And it might be noted by yous Americans unfamiliar with the niceties of
Canadian culture that Stewie lives on Vancouver Island, aka Newfie West.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 21, 2015 - 03:38pm PT
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Stick that in yer duck and smoke it.
Around here we call it gettin Wernered. 😉
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 21, 2015 - 03:45pm PT
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^^^ hahaha. Yer right.
I was trying to keep up with the smokin duck's prodigious efforts at quaking off.
😀😉😜
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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May 21, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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Someone hath wrought someone or something...
So it was written...
So it shall be...
Ye oh verily
I say unto thee
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 21, 2015 - 05:32pm PT
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Reilly: Bang on, but Newfie West? Never heard that one before.
Relax, Guy: So he said.
Werner: remedial English courses are available, probably for free.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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May 21, 2015 - 05:37pm PT
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Relax, Guy: I don't remember Ron A saying he shot someone, but seeing as how he was a Federal Law Enforcement Officer (USFS) for a number of years it seems entirely possible. If nothing else it makes for a good story for the legend of Ron Anderson.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 21, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
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I don't think I am human.
If so, I am ashamed.
Moose
You can't carry moonbeams home in a jar.
You can't be seriously considering becoming a cranky loon or a smoking duck...or can you?
You think you're a moose, I think I'm a rodent.
Yea, verily,
I feel your pain,
I feel your pain,
I feel your pain.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 21, 2015 - 05:54pm PT
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Stewie, I just made it up to jerk yer chain.* ;-) But yous guys
DO drive flippin' crazy up there, or did, anyway. Never seen so much
passing on blind curves.
*But when I was in Barrie a few weeks ago my shirt-tail cousin was telling
stories of working in Newfoundland a few years ago and all the jokes are true! ;-)
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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May 21, 2015 - 05:56pm PT
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I thought he shot up his trailer, after a can exploded in the kitchen.
That should work. A crook sees a trailer with exit wounds, he looks for something else.
So, 100 years ago, Henry Ford kept on a guy, who did absolutely nothing. But one time, he had this huge idea, that made his life employment worthwhile. The should bring Ron back, just in case in ten years, another great story like that.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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May 21, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
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Ron shot the Pillsbury Dough Boy
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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May 21, 2015 - 08:52pm PT
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Sorry to hear he's gone, but I'd bet that he's here in some capacity.
I've said it before in another thread when someone else got the boot, if someone is crying to the mods about these guys, that is some really weak sauce and I wish they'd get the boot.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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May 21, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
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would like to have heard from Ron about Corey Knowlton's rhino
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 21, 2015 - 10:12pm PT
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Reilly: Can't argue about the driving. The first time I went to Squamish I was almost literally in shock seeing the way some of those buggers drove - uphill at high speed around blind corners... all this on a two lane highway with an abyss on one side and a cliff on the other.
If you want a less stressful Canadian driving experience, try Alberta or Saskatchewan - not a single curve on some roads for hundreds of miles, so just put your rig on cruise control & have yourself a nice restful snooze. Mind you, it's been a long time since I was in either one of those Provinces so, to be on the safe side, have a quick look at the road map before bed time.
Relax, Guy: it would take forever, if it's even possible, to track down the quote, but I clearly recall him saying that he did kill the guy. No additional details were offered.
As for my alleged anonymity, I chose my Supertopo name long before I ever encountered Ron Anderson, and I have no intention of changing it. Also, it seems that the many people who send me emails through Supertopo don't have the least difficulty tracking me down, so if I'm trying to be anonymous I'm doing a piss poor job of it.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 21, 2015 - 10:43pm PT
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Yes, Cosmic, it's called Trailer Park Boyz.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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May 22, 2015 - 10:00am PT
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Assuming DMT's got the story right I have new respect for Ron.
You pull a gun on an LEO you deserve to get shot.
I privately cautioned Ron a couple of times about his inflammatory posts. Although I've never met him I figured out he is basically a decent guy.
He can sure talk sht though and he has pied me off a couple of times. So what? A few others around here have pissed me off too.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 22, 2015 - 10:10am PT
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I like Ron, his no back down attitude is a refreshing change. I love people who say just what is on their mind, without regard for others precious feelings.
This place is way to soft now, not at all like the Camp 4 free for all that it once was.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 22, 2015 - 10:21am PT
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I hated Ron and his political paranoia ...but when i heard he owned a model 29 , 10 incher , i didn't feel lucky and decided to suck up and play along...thank god he's gone...rj
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John M
climber
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May 22, 2015 - 10:31am PT
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I love people who say just what is on their mind, without regard for others precious feelings.
you are either divorced or married to a saint
Of course he's a decent guy. Looks after his neighbors. Loves dogs and put himself in harms way to save one from a senseless beating. lonely at times too, I'll warrant.
Also a gun nut and a troll. too!!!
:)
He's not rhe devil. He's just a fellow Merkin warts and all.
yep..
He just took the trolling a little too seriously
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 22, 2015 - 10:48am PT
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Cosmic...Did you have to go there..? Let's not get personal...
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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May 26, 2015 - 07:34am PT
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It's started.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-north-dakota-walmart-shooting-20150526-story.html
Two people, including the gunman, died and another person was injured in a shooting early Tuesday at a Wal-Mart Supercenter store in Grand Forks, N.D., police said.
The shooter was the only person with a gun, and no police officers fired a weapon, according to Lt. Derik Zimmel.
"We do not believe there is any further risk to the public," Zimmel said. He would not say whether the gunman shot himself and provided no details of what led to the shooter's death.
...Police did not provide information about the gunman or victims, but nearby Grand Forks Air Force Base issued a statement saying an airman was involved in the shooting, but did not elaborate.
An airman involved, but they did not elaborate? I bet they didn't elaborate! And what kind of name is Derik Zimmel?
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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May 26, 2015 - 11:05am PT
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I don't miss Ron one bit. He was one of those guys who spent way too much time here, like Fattrad did. It can get almost addictive.
I've tried to stay away from this forum lately. Not an every day thing.
You look at some posters, and they log in in the morning and post hourly, or more than hourly, til bedtime.
I'm sure that Ron is better off without this forum. He said the same thing all of the time, anyway.
He was a climber, so in that sense I am sorry to see him go. He rarely posted about climbing, though.
Now he has more time to work on his marksmanship for his militia. Get outside. Anything but waste time here. Lord knows I've wasted thousands of hours here.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 26, 2015 - 11:39am PT
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Well I miss him. Nobody is going to find anyone that agrees with him 100% of the time.
But I bet he lurks. I know Jody does (who BTW, rottingjohnny, just bought a Magnum Research revolver chambered in .45-70!! Makes the 29 look like a cap gun. Reportedly shooting it is like pulling the pin on a grenade and just holding onto it.)
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 26, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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BASE 104 Amen. I don't miss the guy a damn bit.
Toker Villain: I expect that Supertopo was created as a place for climbers to get together & discuss climbing issues as well as to exchange stories. I doubt that the creators of this site intended it as a place for people to drool over firearms.
I've said it before: climbing is supposed to be about brother (and sister)hood - not murder.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 26, 2015 - 02:16pm PT
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Reportedly shooting it is like pulling the pin on a grenade and just holding onto it.
Haha!!!
All the Ron-haters should lighten the fu$k up....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 26, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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Where have you been, Blue?
Moose
Around. Just not posting a lot....
I do have a sweet story I should share about getting sent to the emergency room from work. Co-workers thought I was dead...
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 26, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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suprema: there's a pretty clear distinction between earnestly advocating the massacre of 300 million human beings and singing the praises of weapons that are specifically designed for killing people and hunting.
Here's a free reality check for everyone: hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens gave their lives to give you the freedom to post this crap.
The Memorial Day thread that should have crashed this server with words of deep gratitude for the sacrifices of these men and women got 35 posts.
This thread, largely composed of tributes to this guy has received almost exactly 10 times the traffic of the Memorial Day thread.
You people should get your priorities straight.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 26, 2015 - 03:02pm PT
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Well, it goes like this...
I spent 4 days at Bass Lake at the front-side of Shuteye Ridge. Stayed at a pleasant resort with the wife and boy. Fishing, swimming, hiking, but no climbing. Just awesome, relaxing family-time.
This also involved drinking quite a bit throughout the trip including nice glasses of whiskey on the patio at night overlooking the lake. That, combined with copious amounts of sun and not drinking enough 'hydrants', led to a dangerous situation.
I usually take a 'rest day' after trips like this, but went right back to work the next day. Totally dehydrated. Apparently the dehydration also robbed me of a sense of appetite. I went the whole day dehydrated and with out food.
I hit 'the wall' at about 2pm. I don't remember what happened. I was in a remote R&D Engineering area when the cleaning lady walked past and noticed me on the ground breathing weirdly. She called for help. My boss saw that I had lost consciousness and was unresponsive, he pulled the trigger on 911.
I regained consciousness with EMS personnel on both sides of me and 4 or 5 firemen along with co-workers staring at me. The EMS crew drilled me with some basic questions to ascertain my clarity, and see if I had a stroke.
The people staring at me looked more shocked than I felt. I could not understand what had happened.
I was loaded onto a stretcher and took the ambulance ride to the hospital. I was given IV fluids on the way and attached to heart monitors at the hospital. Blood tests and other heart tests indicated I was in good shape.
I simply fainted due to lack of food/fluids. Stupid. My dad got wind of the event and rightly told me that, "What's the matter with you, you know better than to let that happen!"
Apparently is not uncommon in emergency rooms. It's called "neo-syncope".
EDIT:This thread, largely composed of tributes to this guy has received almost exactly 10 times the traffic of the Memorial Day thread.
Some of us celebrate the US military all the time, not just one day a year. But we get called "war-mongers" and other stupid sh#t....
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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May 26, 2015 - 03:08pm PT
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Funny story.
Glad you're okay.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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May 26, 2015 - 03:44pm PT
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Bluey, you need to stop drinking. Seriously.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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May 26, 2015 - 03:50pm PT
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Whoa Blue.
You take care there.
Did you eat some of the fish you caught? Maybe loaded with mercury ;)
The "unresponsive" part. That had to be something to see. People from here mighta paid to see that!!!!
Susan
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 26, 2015 - 03:53pm PT
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I miss Ron as well. I dissagree with him on most of his extreeme wacky views but still appreciate the redneck charecter. this suprema troll is annoying as all heck. nothing possitive to say and a bunch of preaching/whineing.
OOps sorry Suprema i had your avatar confused with the Stewert troll.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 26, 2015 - 04:14pm PT
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Hey Stewart, get over it.
I posted on that thread, and have posted some climbing content on here as well, but if you don't like guns you will just have to put up with people that don't share your negativity.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 26, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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Carefull Stewart if you keep making sense and using articulate language you will be a target of the Double Standards gallery.
Religious fanatic caught planning to attack and slaughter entire New York town out on $30,000 bond.
http://youtu.be/5Rxt_xQ4OGM
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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May 26, 2015 - 04:27pm PT
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Philo: Thanks. I'm going to try to sign off for a while. This stuff makes me want to puke.
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 26, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 26, 2015 - 05:17pm PT
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If you don't think Ron leaving this forum is a bigger hunk of drama than a yearly BBQ holiday you may be a bit delusional. We are human and we like drama. Relax bub.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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May 26, 2015 - 06:22pm PT
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OpsI sorry Suprema I had your avatar confused with the Stewert troll.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 26, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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Wait...Ron's gone??
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 26, 2015 - 07:25pm PT
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Toker...good job...let's see some video of you pulling the trigger on the hand artillery...rj
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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May 26, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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What's left to say about Ron that hasn't been said already? 1/50th Cherokee, and the rest complete dumbass. He had a way with words, just never figured out English as his primary language.
On a serious note, this must be freeing up his time for more pot lucks with his oath keeping brethren in the moron militia. Watch out minorities! They are gunning for you in a trailer park in mound house!!!
Hi Ron!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 26, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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Ron went whack-a-doodle with the Infowars crap,
But,
he posted more climbing and accurate forestry related posts here than the entire prog gang combined.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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May 26, 2015 - 10:55pm PT
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Bummer
To many pussies on this board and anonymous coward pussies.
I didn't give a sh!t what Ron said.
But pussies and anonymous pussie cowards cried like little girls all the time to what he said. Who ratted him out anyway?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 27, 2015 - 05:38am PT
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I wanted to rat him out..The stuff he said maid me want to cry like a midget , coward , pussy...
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 27, 2015 - 05:52am PT
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Well you "gonads" (no passive aggressive misogyny here) have done more than enough crying, whining and blaming others.
Will you ever except the truth? Ron "ratted" himself out.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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May 27, 2015 - 07:55am PT
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did Jesus tell you to do that?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 27, 2015 - 08:19am PT
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sick
This is why I have problems with some Christians, they show zero restraint or conscience
They seem to have forgotten that using their intelligence is a virtue, and throwing stones is not a virtue
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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May 27, 2015 - 08:47am PT
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Glad I'm not a non-Christian
those people must suck also
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 27, 2015 - 09:42am PT
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Who's Ron? Is he Waldo's cousin or something?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 27, 2015 - 01:09pm PT
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Locker what's so funny about the MP thread is it was started by an anonymous whiner (my guess is it is ChimChim) from ST's own anonymous coward's club. You know the same nameless faceless criers who complain about other poster's anonymity. The ones who say others are rude while being utterly rude.
I doubt any "LibTard" poster banned from ST would go to MP and set up an anonymous avatar just to whine and complain.
That seems to be a rightwingnut thing.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 27, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
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Be sure to ask Dr. Cosmic if he would classify it as "passive aggressive" behavior.
Lol
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philo
Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
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May 27, 2015 - 02:22pm PT
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Goose nuts
Gander gonads
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 27, 2015 - 03:03pm PT
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What this thread needs is a deluded idealist or three and a bunch children crying "No, you are, and I'm not."
No wait,...
I think that that is pretty well covered.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 27, 2015 - 03:09pm PT
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rubber biscuits - what do you want for nuthin'?
Just like Ron the
Prison Hill climbing descrip and breif ... is also
Dude's still pops up from time to time, no?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 27, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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you homos are just jealous of Ron's manliehood.
Must suck to be you.....Take a bong-rip or something.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2015 - 06:37pm PT
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you homos are just jealous of Ron's manliehood
Welcome back Steve. Supertopo has been really boring since its Number-One gay-hater hasn't been posting.
But now that you're back, tell us about Ron's "manliehood". You speak about it as if you're knowledgeable, and the rest of us would love to hear more. Do you mean you've seen him in action with swooning women? Or is your knowledge of his "manliehood" a bit more, you know, personal?
Don't be shy, it's just us girls here, so please, tell all.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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May 27, 2015 - 06:48pm PT
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http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/26/why-is-the-angry-left-so-angry/
For someone like me, who is not religious but an individualist, the ultimate end state I am seeking is in my own life. It’s about my family, my work, my home, my own personal interests. The goal I’m seeking is about things I have a lot of control over, much more than it is about other people. Politics is mostly just something that gets in the way of the real business of life. Our ideal end state is that we can reach the point where we’re able to think about our own lives and not have to care about politics any more.
For the secular leftist, the end state is social and necessarily political. It is all about getting everybody else on board and herding them into his imagined utopia. There are so many “problematic” aspects of life that need to be reengineered, so many vast social systems that need to be overthrown and replaced. But the rest of us are all screwing it up, all the time, through our greed, our denial, our apathy, our refusal to listen to him banging on about his tired socialist ideology.
For the Christian, the ideal end state is safely in the next world and therefore is never in doubt. For the individualist, it’s in his own life, and it’s mostly under his direct control. For the leftist, however, it is all outside his control. It requires other people, a lot of other people, and those SOBs usually refuse to cooperate. Talk about rage-inducing.
If the whole focus of your life is on getting everybody else to agree with you on every detail of your politics and adopt your plans for a perfect society, then you’re setting yourself up to be at war with most of the human race most of the time.
Which means an awful lot for the Angry Left to get angry about.
Bolded is an accurate description of the gang of progs.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 27, 2015 - 06:55pm PT
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progs.
[Computer] programmers.?
or
Did you mean Droogs.?
Rainbow Coalition - can't we all just get it on?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 27, 2015 - 07:35pm PT
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Cosmic thinks Ron has a 10 incher...What could be more manly...?
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa y Perrito Ruby
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May 27, 2015 - 07:39pm PT
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 27, 2015 - 07:46pm PT
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Ron's posts were the turd in the punchbowl or worse , akin to yelling fire in a whore house...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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May 27, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
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Thanks for the clarification scrubbles...The man is a legend..
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 27, 2015 - 09:11pm PT
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FIRE FIRE FIRE!!!!!!!111111169
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Wendell's (TGT) post hits the nail on the head....
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Hey, blue! How ya doin'?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Rad!!!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Glad to hear it. You'd been gone for a while...wondered what happened to you.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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wondered what happened to you
He decided there were enough Don Quixotes here.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 23, 2015 - 11:00am PT
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Ummm.....yeah.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 23, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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Ooh a sneaky for you guys can crow now but soon you will
Be eating crow as the dog returns to bark back. . . .
Welcome back home big
R
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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Jun 23, 2015 - 01:41pm PT
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Ron, when La Raza sells the white race into slavery, I hope you'll be sufficiently grateful. After all, slavery is so cush.
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Jun 23, 2015 - 01:46pm PT
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Viva LA RAZA!
Give a dog the boot
and it comes
crawling back
for scraps of
attention.
Sad, really.
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jstan
climber
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Jun 23, 2015 - 02:17pm PT
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Oiy veh.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 23, 2015 - 05:18pm PT
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*
Give a dog the boot
and it comes
crawling back
for scraps of
attention.
Sad, really.
Yup,........"Sad, really"...
Now I see a troubled individual that desperately needs mental help.
double yup....
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2015 - 06:36pm PT
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So, shall I change the name of this thread to "Ron's back"?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 23, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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Triple yup....
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2015 - 08:06pm PT
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But the difference is I don't take every opportunity to tell it to the world.
Are you living in the same universe as the rest of us?
Seriously, when you were here as Ron Anderson, you took every opportunity available, and then created even more opportunities, to tell it to the world.
Maybe that's okay, and maybe it's not, but don't pretend your pot is gleaming copper, while everyone else's kettle is black.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:10pm PT
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If that's RubyDog then I'm all in. Otherwise, mostly all in.
Just watch out for that foot.
-Wyatt Earp, ex-sheriff, San Diego County (deceased)
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:17pm PT
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The way I recall it, Ron posted his opinions. I don't agree with many of them. I think the attacks were initiated by people other than Ron.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2015 - 08:17pm PT
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ANy insults I issued were answers in kind. WERD.
Did I say you'd insulted anyone?
No, I just said you took every opportunity, and created even more opportunities, to post your thoughts. Which is what you just criticized others for doing. C'mon Ron, wake up. For a while, you were the biggest thread polluter on Supertopo. And when you backed off from that, you reverted to the passive-aggressive mode of deliberately posting things you knew would rile other people.
Grow up.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:31pm PT
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Apogee, You still haven't answered my question ? ..Is it older or younger?..I want to win the bet.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:33pm PT
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I'm trying real hard to remember if I agree with ANY...
You don't remember when Ron said he really enjoyed your artistry and humor?
I think that was at the same time he complained about the shoes.
Don't hold me to it, I haven't been myself lately.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 23, 2015 - 08:37pm PT
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Ron, you can hang out here man, plenty of us like you. Just... don't get bogged down and dragged into the same bullsh#t. It's possible to not respond to people and I actually recommend it as whining and playing the victim can quickly turn someone from a unique voice to persona non grata.
Plenty of people here share your political stances and thoughts but few get so.... butthurt about it.
If Apogee is wrong in your mind, LET him be wrong. Who gives a sh#t, be you, move on. This incessant whining nonsense has gotta stop, dewd. I like you man, you don't gotta do that.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Jun 23, 2015 - 10:44pm PT
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Rrat is too close to Parrot : /
which, of course, all these things can be stuffed with sand...
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couchmaster
climber
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Jun 24, 2015 - 06:45am PT
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Greg has it correct Ron. I appreciated your views and like you as a person, however, after you had argued a particular point 20 or 30 times, sometimes in a similar way, I started tuning out. Pretty soon, I was totally tuned out and didn't read any of your stuff. You clearly seem to have better heart than most of your detractors, but when they swarm you like killer bees on a topic, and you've said your piece, if you have anything to add just go add it to your earlier piece and walk away. You ain't got no can of raid that will keep the flies off your written sh#t.
Good luck man and welcome back!
Gdavis said: Ron, you can hang out here man, plenty of us like you. Just... don't get bogged down and dragged into the same bullsh#t. It's possible to not respond to people and I actually recommend it as whining and playing the victim can quickly turn someone from a unique voice to persona non grata.
Plenty of people here share your political stances and thoughts but few get so.... butthurt about it.
If Apogee is wrong in your mind, LET him be wrong. Who gives a sh#t, be you, move on. This incessant whining nonsense has gotta stop, dewd. I like you man, you don't gotta do that.
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