7.9 Earthquake in Kathmandu

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Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 1, 2015 - 10:23am PT
Six days after the quake, Nepal news has fallen off the front page of the New York Times which is probably about average for a major disaster.

Of course the real work of reconstruction has not even begun and I am still waiting to find a safe way to get money to my village without the government seizing it. I will for sure let everyone know when we get it figured out.

And now for some good news.

Our tax dollars at work.

USAID contributed 700 rolls of this heavy duty plastic tarp.




John M

climber
May 1, 2015 - 10:34am PT
I've read that parts of India shifted ten feet to the north and that the area around Kathmandu was raised 3 feet and that Everest is now an inch shorter.

wouldn't it be something if the solution to overcrowding on Everest was that it was no longer the tallest mountain. Of course then that would shift the burden to some other mountain.

I'm praying that the proper solutions are worked out in Nepal. That the people demand a better government and an end to the graft.

Thank you for keeping us updated Jan. I know that you have a heart for that country and those people, so I hope that your friends get the help that they need.
saa

Social climber
sadly, far away from yos and josh
May 2, 2015 - 05:54am PT
a few days after the quake, after info has arrived that everest climbers and other himalayan sites have been impacted....

on the taco, nepal earthquake posts are relagated to number 50 or so.


goodbye. I don't understand how I could feel part of such a community.
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
May 2, 2015 - 06:05am PT

More than a million souls are suffering.
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
May 2, 2015 - 08:08am PT
It's encouraging to see that Himex is concentrating on the important things.

It seems that the media is all very ready to tell the world that I have made a decision to continue to climb on Everest, when in my last newsletter I said that we would assess the situation: the ministry, the expedition operations association, my team, the Sherpas as well as the scale of the disaster in the whole country had to be considered. At that stage I had not made a decision as there were so many factors to be considered. Now having considered all facts, I can tell you that we will not be continuing any of our ascents in Nepal this season.


http://himalayanexperience.com/newsletters/everest-2015/the-daily-moraine-2015-4-everest-decision#.dpuf
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2015 - 10:31am PT
On the good news side.

An article on the government's attempt to grab the funds of small scale donors and how after a big backlash (surprise!), and the threat to cut off further funds to Nepal, the government has backed down, saying that all that is required now is to send an email to the Social Welfare Council and the Chief District Officer telling them how much is being sent and where it will go. Needless to say, those emails will go out after the aid is distributed, so it can't be seized on the way.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/nepal/11577706/Nepal-aid-donors-may-halt-fundraising-amid-fears-government-will-seize-donations.html

I'm still waiting for a report and photos from my village. The local reincarnate lama and a friend of mine flew in the rescue helicopter up to the village with tarps, meds and food, and then walked the four days back with the young boys who were attending a Buddhist school up there.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2015 - 10:55am PT
And U.S. Marines to the rescue !

Brigadier General Paul Kennedy of the US Marine Corps said The U.S. is sending four tilt-rotor V-22 Osprey aircraft along with three Huey helicopters, four Air Force C-17 Globemasters and two Marine Corps KC-130's along with 150 military personnel to Nepal to boost earthquake relief efforts.

“We are bringing in significant capacity,” Kennedy said Friday of the U.S. assets, which will include Air Force personnel out of Guam who can control air traffic, repair airfields and offload supplies with heavy equipment.

Ospreys have seen extensive service in Afghanistan and deployed to the Philippines during relief efforts after Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines in 2013. Flying in the Himalayas will be a new challenge, Kennedy said. They have never been in anything that approximates this.
(No Kidding!)

The response of Army Special Forces troops out of Okinawa, who were doing cold weather training in Nepal when the earthquake struck, has been impressive, Kennedy said.

They went to Mount Everest and started pulling people out,” he said. “It wasn’t just at Base Camp. They went up the mountain and they were pulling people out. The soldiers recovered the body of Google executive Dan Fredinburg from the mountain.

As soon as they were done with that, they were down here going out to villages doing first-aid and even search-and-rescue,” he said.

(excerpted from Pacific Stars and Stripes)
Greg Barnes

climber
May 2, 2015 - 04:37pm PT
Nepal quake: Airport customs holding up aid relief - UN

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32564891
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Mexico City, D.F.
May 2, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
Anyone who would even contemplate climbing Everest after this earthquake should be banned from the country forever. I was a little disburbed by all the helicopters rescuing climbers from EBC, but then after thinking a little more, they have to save all the foreign tourists first. The entire economy of Nepal depends on tourism, and harming the tourist industry could hurt Nepal even more in the long run.

Should we rescue the Everest climbers?

* a better idea: don't ban them from the country forever, but mercilessly ridicule them on the internet for all time. The reason they're climbing it in the first place is to try to impress other people.
John M

climber
May 2, 2015 - 05:24pm PT
Anyone who would even contemplate climbing Everest after this earthquake should be banned from the country forever. I was a little disburbed by all the helicopters rescuing climbers from EBC, but then after thinking a little more, they have to save all the foreign tourists first. The entire economy of Nepal depends on tourism, and harming the tourist industry could hurt Nepal even more in the long run.

If this is true..

The entire economy of Nepal depends on tourism, and harming the tourist industry could hurt Nepal even more in the long run

Then aren't you suggesting long term harm to Nepal's economy with this statement?

Anyone who would even contemplate climbing Everest after this earthquake should be banned from the country forever.

Everest is dangerous, but how often do such large earthquakes happen? What you are suggesting is to harm the nations economy because of rare occurrences.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2015 - 06:04pm PT
Unfortunately on the Tibetan calendar, next year is also supposed to be a bad year. That will be three in a row.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Mexico City, D.F.
May 2, 2015 - 06:06pm PT
John M - not sure I understand your comments but it's definitely a dilemma.

Here's another one:

For one of its clients, millionaire Texas realtor David McGrain, it should never have taken that long to call off the climb, given thousands of people had been killed in the valleys below as well as 18 in an avalanche at base camp itself. "The narcissism among some of my team mates made me want to vomit," McGrain said after leaving the camp by helicopter for the town of Lukla on Wednesday. "All they could think about was their goddamn climb, when hours before we were holding crushed skulls in our hands."
John M

climber
May 2, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
http://himalayanexperience.com/newsletters/everest-2015/the-daily-moraine-2015-4-everest-decision#.dpuf

Hey Don. My apologies. . I misunderstood the first part of your statement. I thought that you said that no one should climb Everest ever again.

It is a dilemma, and after rereading you statement, I see that you weren't saying that no one should ever climb Everest again. Just that they should not climb it immediately after this earthquake, which eventually was the decision.

the link that Big Mike posted is worth reading. The decision to climb or not had not been made, and part of the reason was that not everything was known at base camp and the Sherpas depend on making much of their money during that season, so much was at stake.

Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
It turns out a U.S. Special Forces team from my old home of Okinawa was in Nepal when the earthquake happened and they flew some of the people out of Base Camp. They also rescued people from Langtang who were trapped there. I wonder if any of them were my old students?
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
May 2, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
Thanks for letting us know about the Marine help, Jan. My nephew is a heli pilot in the Marines and we are proud of all he does around the world.

I also appreciate each of you that contribute to this Thread. Let's not let it wander off our radar.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
May 2, 2015 - 09:11pm PT
Unfortunately on the Tibetan calendar, next year is also supposed to be a bad year. That will be three in a row.

Frightening, considering the unprecedented 2014 tragedy and now an exponentially greater nightmare for 2015.

Thank you so much Jan for all you've poured into this.

Best to all.
steveA

Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
May 3, 2015 - 04:20am PT
I happen to be at John Porter's house, in the UK, at the moment, and John is meeting up with Doug Scott, shortly, to deliver quite a few sleeping bags, which will be sent Monday to Nepal.

The shipment is being flown over by the British military by the Ghurka's, who will make sure it gets delivered directly to the people in need.

Chris Bonnington was here last night, who is also involved with this effort.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
May 3, 2015 - 07:17am PT
hey there say, steve A... wow, hope they get there well and good... and thanks so much for sharing...

:)
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2015 - 10:54am PT
The New York Times is calling it like it is:

Nepal's Bureaucracy is blamed as Quake Relief Supplies Pile Up

Let us hope that the 150 U.S. Marines who sat on the runway in Okinawa for 72 hours awaiting permission to land in Kathmandu, U.S. helicopters and our Air Traffic Controllers can help straighten out the mess. If a 150 Marines can't do it then nobody can.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/world/asia/nepals-bureaucracy-is-blamed-as-quake-relief-supplies-pile-up.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

And here they are:


Our tax dollars at work


The size of things


Not anticipated. No Off loading Equipment at the Airport


An invasion of Aid


A Novel Sight


Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2015 - 11:50am PT
And this just in.

The Nepalese Politicians Caved!

Leaders of the three major political parties in the coalition government have just declared that anyone is free to distribute aid anywhere they want to.

That's a huge victory for international aid and Nepalese poor people.


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