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WBraun

climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 08:33am PT
BTW, where the hell is the US?

They're busy keeping their stupid wars and propaganda proxy wars that are keeping the world wide humanitarian crises going strong.

The whole planet is suffering.

No one gives a sh!t.

Everyone is too busy talking about nothing.

Too busy talking about stoopid politicians who say nothing.

What a stoopid world full of idiots .....
steve shea

climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 08:35am PT
The US has sent a plane with medical rescue personnel and two rescue helos and some, not much, financial help.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 27, 2015 - 08:42am PT
Canada and the USA are both a disgrace to the 'civilized' world but especially the US with
our military's ability to be anywhere on the planet within hours to kill somebody or save them.
MikeL

Social climber
Seattle, WA
Apr 27, 2015 - 08:50am PT
. . . as always with sherpas joking and laughing a lot and also doing many prayers.

Really great people. Really the way to be.
crankster

Trad climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 09:26am PT
Correcting the error in above posts regarding US help.. The earthquake just happened - on the other side of the world.

WASHINGTON — Apr 27, 2015, 12:02 PM ET
By The Associated Press
Associated Press
The Pentagon says two teams of U.S. Army Green Beret soldiers happened to be in Nepal when the deadly earthquake struck Saturday and are staying to help with search and relief efforts.

A Pentagon spokesman, Col. Steve Warren, says the 26 U.S. soldiers were in Nepal for high-altitude and other training with the Nepalese army. The 11-person crew of a C-130 cargo plane that brought them to Nepal also is remaining in case of a request to evacuate any American citizens in the affected area.

In addition, Warren says that a second U.S. Air Force C-17 cargo plane departed Monday from March Air Force Base in California to transport members of a Los Angeles urban search and rescue team to Nepal. It is due to arrive there Tuesday.

Secretary of State John Kerry is telling reporters in New York that the US aid to Nepal has grown from $1 million to $10 million.

On Sunday, an Air Force C-17 Globemaster took off from Dover Air Force Base, Delaware, with roughly 70 people, including a Disaster Assistance Response Team from the U.S. Agency for International Development and a rescue team from Fairfax County, Virginia, said Army Col. Steven Warren, a Defense Department spokesman. The flight is expected to arrive Monday at Tribhuvan International Airport, in the Kathmandu Valley.

"We are in the process of mobilizing resources and figuring out how to get them in," Jana Sweeny, a spokesperson for the American Red Cross, told The WorldPost.

Sweeny says the American Red Cross is working with the International Federation of the Red Cross and the Nepal Red Cross Society to determine what needs to be done and how they can best direct their efforts. "We are looking at what resources we can provide them in terms of specialists or supplies and financial support," she said.

Drone footage:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/04/27/nepal-curnow-drone-video.cnn
Jawon

climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 09:35am PT
Canada and the USA are both a disgrace to the 'civilized' world but especially the US with our military's ability to be anywhere on the planet within hours to kill somebody or save them.

This is where NGO's can fill the gap. World Vision (an international organization with much of the funding from the US) is one that is well positioned for this type of disaster response.

In full disclosure, I am one of 40k worldwide employees. Since I know this tragedy is close to the hearts of many here, I just wanted to provide some hope that there are people/orgs who do care and are trying to help during these critical first days. WV is a Christian organization but it does not distribute help based on religion. We already have a wide distribution of staff in underdeveloped regions so are among the first on the scene.

From http://www.worldvision.org/news-stories-videos/nepal-earthquake. I've bolded the parts that may be of interest to this group. I don't know if the areas they mention are common climber destinations but we certainly have an interest in Nepal...

"World Vision has sent a team to assess the damage in rural areas. In some of the remote areas staff heading out for assessments are finding both the road and the trails blocked by landslides, making access extremely difficult.

After search and rescue, World Vision disaster management staff say initial needs are potable water, food, household supplies, temporary shelter, and protection for children.

In the initial phase, our response will target 100,000 people in the worst-affected areas of Bhaktapur, Gorkha, Kathmandu, Lalitpur and Lamjung.

We will be working to meet immediate needs including providing first aid kits, sleeping mats, blankets and jerry cans; temporary shelter; and protection for children.

World Vision has begun to distribute 1,000 tarpaulins and 600 blankets in Bhaktapur, one of the worst hit areas.

We are also setting up six Child-Friendly Spaces so children have a safe space to play following the trauma of the quake.

Disaster management experts from World Vision’s operations around the region — including in neighboring India and Bangladesh — are on standby to provide relief assistance to the Nepal response. Some supplies were pre-positioned in Nepal, while others will be airlifted in from Dubai.

We're working with government and partners to assess the situation and respond to the need of children and their communities. World Vision works with 43 local NGO partners in its operating districts.

In Nepal, World Vision has 73 projects managed by 205 staff."
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Apr 27, 2015 - 09:42am PT
NICE Jawon! and Thank You for your service:)

LA county Fire sent 80 S&R personnel along with 13 search dogs last night.

And another Ca. group called Rubicon sent 50 people.

Cali always steps up!!
snowey

Trad climber
San Diego
Apr 27, 2015 - 09:48am PT
Lots of changes at Tomnod over the last couple of years where we are now part of Digitalglobe. This means that we have much quicker access to the satellites and can influence where they shoot.

Yesterday we launched a Tomnod campaign on www.tomnod.com to allow people to map the damage seen in the imagery. We will be updating the site as we collect more images. We also put in a tasking request to try to capture the Everest area.

Read more here: DigitalGlobe blog


Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2015 - 11:19am PT
Here is a post from Dave Hahn about the situation on Everest. As always, Dave is an engaging writer.


MT. EVEREST EXPEDITION: DAVE HAHN DETAILS THE DAYS EVENTS AS THE TEAM ARRIVES BASE CAMP

Posted by: Dave Hahn, JJ Justman | April 27, 2015

Categories: *Expedition Dispatches *Everest 
Elevation: 17,575'

At Camp One, we were up before dawn, boiling cups of instant coffee and hurriedly packing.  It wasn’t going to be an ideal scenario, by any means… Being “rescued” from 20,000 ft on Mount Everest, along with perhaps 180 of our closest friends… But we weren’t likely to get any better offers… The Icefall Route that should have been a two hour descent to Basecamp was decidedly out of order and couldn’t be fixed while the earth was still shaking.  We got out in the cold shadows in our down suits and thankfully saw clear and calm conditions.  Perhaps we all did have a chance to escape the Western Cwm.  It seemed unlikely that ninety plus landings and take offs -at what was a record breaking rescue altitude for helicopters only twenty years ago- could be accomplished without chaos or catastrophe… or at least unworkable delay, but sure enough, the first B3 powered on in at 6 AM and the great Everest Air Show began. 

A fear of the team leaders was a helicopter mob scene ala Saigon ‘75, but we’d arrayed our helipads in a way that didn’t allow for mobbing and everybody seemed to understand the need for superior social skills on this day.  There was one way out and nobody wanted to get put on the “no fly” list.  Eventually there were four or five birds in the air at any time, flying a dramatic loop from BC to Camp One to BC.  A line of climbers with packs formed at each pad and a stream of climbers from Camp 2 made their way into what was left of Camp 1 and then joined the queues.  It took four laps in Kiwi pilot Jason’s B3 to get our team down.  Although it seemed already like a full day, it was only about 9:30 AM when Chhering and I got off the final RMI chopper. 

There was no back-slapping.  No cheering.  No high fives.  We’d put down at the epicenter of a disaster and we could barely believe our eyes.  Whatever relief each of us felt at being off the mountain was quickly replaced with sadness and awe at the destructive power on evidence all around us.  Hearing on the radio about the quake triggered Avalanche that blasted BC did nothing to prepare us for experiencing the aftermath first hand.  It was as if an enormous bomb had detonated.  We each walked slowly through the obliterated camps, stopping to understand how much force had bent this or that bit of steel. 

We finally understood the enormous death toll and the nature of the numerous injuries to the survivors.  When we reached our own greatly altered camp and heard a few stories from neighbors, we finally understood Mark Tucker’s heroism of the last few days, helping to stabilize and transport dozens upon dozens of seriously injured, bloody and broken people.  He and our Sherpa team had gone immediately to help others, even though their own camp was largely destroyed.  By now, we are not even mildly surprised to learn that they somehow found time and energy to rebuild camp for our arrival.  Our “ordeal” seems trivial by comparison… we had to stay a bit longer in a beautiful and legendary hanging valley and deal with a bit of uncertainty.  Now back down to earth… we understand just how lucky we’ve been and we are sad beyond words to learn how unlucky others have been.
Best Regards,
RMI Guide Dave Hahn

http://www.explorersweb.com/offsite/?source=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmiguides.com%2Fblog%2F2015%2F04%2F27%2Fmt._everest_expedition_dave_hahn_details_the_days_events_as_the_team_arrive&lang=en
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2015 - 01:12pm PT
Just got the news! Everyone in my village survived, about 200 of them. Their houses are damaged as is the Buddhist temple, though surprisingly, the temple is still standing. I had been negotiating with a restoration architect who works with UNESCO to restore the temple before this happened. I hope he is still interested.

Now, we all have to wait to see if anyone from our village died in the avalanche or Khumbu icefall. Anyway, things are looking up for that small section of Nepal.

And here are some inspiring images from Nepal and Tibet showing the human spirit in the midst of the misery.

http://www.indiatimes.com/news/india/20-images-that-show-how-hard-nepals-earthquake-survivors-are-fighting-to-stay-alive-and-smile-232197.html
philo

Trad climber
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel or a tr
Apr 27, 2015 - 01:18pm PT
TFPU Jan.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 01:22pm PT
Glad to read your good news Jan.

edit: The images on that link are powerful. The spirit of people in dire circumstances, burning bright.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 27, 2015 - 01:51pm PT
Such awesome good news! a bit of hope as we await news from places not yet reached.
Hoser

climber
vancouver
Apr 27, 2015 - 02:02pm PT
Imagine if those rich f*#ks paid for their own helicopter rescue and let the army help the 2500 dead and the 1 million kids with no food.

http://documents.wfp.org/stellent/groups/public/documents/ena/wfp273989.pdf
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Apr 27, 2015 - 02:18pm PT
Thanks for the report Jan!

And thanks, Dave Hahn, for your excellent article. I have tears and heartache trying to even begin to comprehend the devastation and loss along with some Karmic miracles at BC. The older I get, the less I know about life and how it unfolds for each individual.

Offering up intense prayer for all the brokenness that has ruptured into people's lives. Our planet moves and works, it sows and reaps, it provides and takes away. We may feel in control, but it is us, not the planet that is fragile. God help the broken and restore the hurting. Amen.
crankster

Trad climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
You're right, DMT. Those aren't the only helicopters in Nepal and everyone up there isn't rich.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 27, 2015 - 02:37pm PT
I think the majority of people in basecamp were Sherpa. It takes a lot of help to get those clients up that thing.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
Climbing and trekking tourism is the third largest source of income in Nepal after remittances from overseas workers and Gurkha pensions. The government knows very well that protecting the climbers and tourists will help bring them back in the future after all the emergency aid agencies have rushed off to the next crisis. That's important since the recovery effort will take many many years.

And yes, many of the evacuated were Sherpas.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Apr 27, 2015 - 03:16pm PT
And hopefully those who do have expendable income may be inspired to donate some of it to those c=organizations and groups which are helping people through this.

Hoser

climber
vancouver
Apr 27, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
you know what its a clilmbing forum, go on care about your historic temples and tourism...whatever, hardly reality
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