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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:23am PT
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Pyro, I was going to post your new profile pic, but didn't want to post a pic of rightwing testicles being eviserated. You and Forum Bully better get steel codpieces when Hillary is sworn in.
nah000, I've seen all that stuff before. Nonsense. no reasonable person looking at Hillary's life and what she is currently proposing would call her a conservative. She's a proud progressive. You'd be better served figuring out why Bernie has so little appeal to minority voters, most of whom are decidedly not conservative.
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trailridge127
Trad climber
Loveland, CO
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:30am PT
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^^^^Ha, the only swearing in, Hillary will be doing is at her indictment with the FBI, She does not stand a chance being President, majority of voters that don't like Trump like Hillary less. She is very dis-likeable, not a good trait while campaigning
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:33am PT
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DMT, you've said this 1,000 frickin times before. There are 2 competing political parties with polar opposite views. Pick one. I'll supply the nose plugs.
I'm looking at Hillary's policy proposals, listening to her ideas in town hall discussions and debates. I agree with her postitions. I want her nominating the next Supreme Court justices.
Partisanship? Sure. Show me a moderate Republican to consider. Dying breed.
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Norton
Social climber
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:41am PT
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^^^^Ha, the only swearing in, Hillary will be doing is at her indictment with the FBI, She does not stand a chance being President, majority of voters that don't like Trump like Hillary less. She is very dis-likeable, not a good trait while campaigning
wrong, there will be no indictment because there was no wrong doing, period
also, Hillary will beat Trump by over 7 million popular votes and by an Electoral Landslide of over 100 votes
two can play the arrogant, know it all game
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:49am PT
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^^^^
Oh, brother.
<insert double face palm>
I'm going skiing.
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Feb 28, 2016 - 07:51am PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Feb 28, 2016 - 08:16am PT
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nah, I think we'll see New York values
More remarkable than his front-runner status, however, is the fact that he has maintained it despite a long history of supporting failed liberal policies. A lot of his policy proposals appear to have come straight from Hillary’s playbook. Take the quiz below and see if you can spot the difference between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton!
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/11/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-hillary-clinton/
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 28, 2016 - 01:59pm PT
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crankster:
never said hill was a conservative... just said she wasn't liberal... you're going with
"proud progressive", eh?
key words in your preceding line are: "[given] what she is currently proposing"
that's the issue.
here are her top five contributors from 1999-2016:
Emily's List $939,881
Citigroup Inc $883,547
DLA Piper $847,930
Goldman Sachs $821,031
JPMorgan Chase & Co $771,111
you seriously watch a video like what i posted and effectively go: "meh, that's not what
she's currently proposing?"
hmmm... what's that line? something history, something something doomed to repeat
something?
and so out of genuine curiosity to the healyje's and crankster's:
what significant progressive policies do you think your so-called "castrating bitch"
a. actually believes in and will fight for and b. actually will have success getting
through that others couldn't?
cause when i look at her actual track record and not her current proposals i see a big
corporation supporting, walmart board sitting, prison complex and tough on crime
mongering, war starting and continuing, late to the game social justice issue pandering,
and so in some regards effective neo-con...
i guess there's the apparent fact that she's a female... and her top donor being emily's list
is evidence of that...
i really do wonder if she was a male that was running with her policy history, if she'd get
away with the wake that she's trailing... [let's see: an ongoing fbi investigation, historical
mistakes on a crux war decision, foot dragging on social justice issues, and etc.]
in all seriousness, that's what this is really about isn't it?
hill's being female is the real core of what constitutes her identity as a "progressive"
and/or "liberal", isn't it...
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 28, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
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Nah000,
Bernie and Hillary shared 2 years in the Senate together. Voted, what, 93% the same?
Hillary is a liberal Democrat. Bernie is a socialist, basically.
I love Bernie. If he does not win the nomination I'm positive he will endorse Hillary, gain some influence at the convention and give one hell of a speech making the case for her.
Perhaps then you'll take a fresh look at her.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 28, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
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^^^^
don't worry, if this was about the choice between hillary and trump i'd have no question
that she is the lesser of two evils.
i just think your characterization of bernie as a "socialist" is, relative to a more global
usage of the word, exaggerated and he is the actual "progressive" or "liberal". and in
the same manner characterizing hillary as a "progressive" or "liberal" given her actual
track record should be replaced by "centrist".
but if her policies [past and/or present] are what floats your boat, then more power to you.
because as i started with: in the same way that the last canadian election had the abc
movement [anybody but conservatives] i have no doubt that if trump gets through
[as he now appears he will] that anybody with a fully functioning frontal lobe, able to
connect the dots between decisions made in the present and likely outcomes occurring
in the future, will be working on the abt movement.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Feb 28, 2016 - 02:53pm PT
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Ok, democratic socialist I think he calls himself. Again, I love the guy so not arguing.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 28, 2016 - 11:08pm PT
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what significant progressive policies do you think your so-called "castrating bitch"
a. actually believes in and will fight for...
The gop has gerrymandered the house so basically no 'progressive' agenda is
going to happen even if we take back the senate. And at this point I frankly don't
give a damn what Hillary's positions, agendas or talking points are - I only care
about two things: the supreme court and stopping any further damage by the
fringe right in congress.
I don't want her wasting time on a progressive agenda that's never getting through
the house. I don't want her wasting time attempting to reason with morons. I want
her to strong-arm through whatever is possible to get done and castrate as many
people standing in her way obstructing as humanly possible and in any way possible.
Get a grip. Bigoted c*#ks@ckers are attempting to destroy the country - it's not a
time for nice or pie-in-the-sky, it's time for bloody, block-by-block streetfighting and
Bernie doesn't have what it takes for that or the time in the trenches getting down
and dirty with the scum who currently hold sway over the house.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 28, 2016 - 11:57pm PT
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^^^^
you might be right.
and i have no disagreement that bernie would likely be able to accomplish little.
otoh, i have a hard time seeing how one of, if not, the most polarizing person the left has
produced at least in my lifetime [including to those on her "side"] is going to do any better at
even holding back a tide.
in fact if i was going to bet, i'd bet that electing hillary will polarize the country further, will give
the elephants a ready-made blame figure and will continue to give the republicans more power
in the house and the senate.
all while electing someone who for all intents and purposes has more similarities than
differences to a romney, jeb or rubio.
which is why sometimes i think maybe the best thing is for trump to be elected.
sometimes before the sun will rise one has to accept a little darkness...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 29, 2016 - 12:26am PT
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A little darkness is one thing, the political equivalent of a nuclear winter is quite another.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Feb 29, 2016 - 12:27am PT
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^^^^
hahaha. agreed.
it'd be playing with fire for sure.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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make AMERICA HOLE AGAIN Hillary CLINTON
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Hey pyro? Are you funding my ST Banner Ad today?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Hey pyro? Are you funding my ST Banner Ad today?
LOL..
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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If we were putting people away for 'crimes against america', we'd get to hillary's case in about 2024 because that's how long it would take to try and jail all the treasonous bastards from the past three gop administrations.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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I appreciat ST management does what they have to do to keep this cluster-fuk alive, but some banner ads do offend & seem contrary to a climbing forum.
This was my header tongiht.
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