The Flames.

What did I miss?
That new proud poppa!
He a mouth ful, that for sure this will make him jump my shjt


In an effort to preserve Gunks history
Andy Salo compiled a comprehensive list of every route 5.12a and above.
Tremendous assistance was provided by self severing egomaniacs,
Due to the nature of many of these routes having access issues we are not publishing the route areas,
just the names and grades.
If you see a route we are missing give a shout!
We are in the process of adding,
so that if a climb resides in an app you can jump to it directly from the list. Enjoy!


Wow that's cool and ambitious,
did anyone track down Jason Stern?

The climb that was 'Starting In The Middle' has been climb free'd
By a visiting German climber in 98?
( you might ask James Monson )

Oh Donald Perrys son?




I'm just pointing out that
It will be a re write of history if your sources are the same folks who stifled
Climbers sharing the hardest routes by boorish behavior.

I am not one to talk I know,

Let me list a few I'm sure asked
Clune Al D, J Mills Bwana, Luchan, Lahnman, Tom Andrews , Marc Wallace
Phenix, that store owner big bird guy? Of course the will all discount anything that I have to say.


There were so many early hard pushing climbers not recognized or disliked
The completion was not always friendly.

Climbs in what you call the water works were erased, the holds hammered off
turned into 5.13s that now have chalk on the hammered remains.
after that, many of us never told anyone about what chunks of rock
We're taking visitors to.

the Kid Alex? Andy Tibbets friend?
And Paul Marshell, and Larry Schaffer's, Glistening , thing in the chasm?

I do not claim to know
But I know that the people who run the show do not know all either.

There was a guy Named Ryan? Who was only around a year if that....


I'm not saying that they are not all the greatest climbers but there were those of us who took it upon or selves to act as ambassador like locals to visiting crushers that were not hooked up.



I think you may have missed more than a few 5.13s
I never climbed them.

You did not contact Brett Wolfe did you?

Do you know that there is a wall that holds Brett Wolf FAs?
Or where it is?
Kevin Bien showed me things that I don't think anyone knows about


Romano projects? ( one of many: Right of Arrow some overhanging scop thing?)

I'm not trying to dis you guys !
And the great influence and accomplishments that Andy has made.

You say it is to preserve history?
Try not to write out the very formidable climbers
Who's names have been conveniently, forgotten.


for goodness sake we were following fight club rules!

I have never climbed the hardest anything, what the deal a
But

Russ knows everything?




You Have the light of your convictions !
May all the provenance and goodness rein in you life
And blessings to you family


& never hesitate if you ever need anything,
A ride from or to an airport, a rescue of gear or friend or family
here on the east coast
Anything that I can ever help you with I will try to be there.for you.
Bless the tribe
The silverbacks here Are Righteous ! and standing in the light of the divine

((( Now, my posts are for my entertainment, I get that one can do a ton more, with the amazing info, communicating, giving back & forth, I've not had good feelings from doing that,
my private climbing zones grew energy drink cans on ledges.
So as much as the good is great, the bad has a lasting negative way of not having been worth it.
I think that is what you get, a mixed bag, by posting to the Internet ,
your milage may vary,



I'll clean this little tribute up later please forgive our outward appearance during our construction