Why do so many people believe in God? (Serious Question?)

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jfs

Trad climber
Upper Leftish
Oct 1, 2010 - 11:57am PT
So much hate and spite and pride just oozing out of this thread.

Topic seems to bring out the worst in many.

Guess I'll just keep moving on. Peace.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 12:47pm PT
weschrist- "knowledge of the dominant fairytale is not...."

And visa versa!

That was the exact same point that I was making in regards to donini, et al;

That knowledge of the world religions, does not equate to the atheist having more knowledge in regards to what Christians have about their Bible, God, Jesus Christ etc.

Donini, et al. where getting all puffed up about atheist and agnostic's having more "knowledge" about religion. He/they were infering that they new more about God & Christianity, the Bible, etc. than we(born again/evangelicals) do...KNOTT.

weschrist- "keep your relationships to yourself".

You sound like a NAZI...

I wouldn't have even come on this site if you guy's were capable of keeping the facts straight.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Oct 1, 2010 - 02:27pm PT
Way to keep the charge, Wes.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 02:48pm PT
You are thick headed weschrist.

I made no claim of Christians being more knowledgable regarding "religion" because they..

Just like the report/article states, Christians know more about Christianity...

Who cares about the 100's or according to your buddy "Fruitcake" 1,000's of other religions? There own followers, and atheist because atheist study all the religions to find faults with them, period.

I have found the one true God and I am happy. I have no need to study all the others. Although I have in college, in discussions, through work and relationships over the last 50 years, etc. I am sure I know more about them then you and "Fruitose" put together,,,,SO WHAT, WHO GIVES A DAMN.

You and the other GOD HATERS are on this site simply stir up trouble, and feed your bitter and sick contempt for the God that created you and anyone who believes in Him. You could care less about the other religions.

Like i said I/we know the Holy Bible better than anyone else. That is what the study/report said, and far as I am concerned all that matters.

GOOD-BYE!!

~777~
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 03:24pm PT
donini- "Seems that the group that scored highest on religeous knowledge were atheist/agnostics.

No, like the report that donini was quoting(the NY Times)they(atheist, agnostics)scored highest on religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, and Judaism the atheist had more knowledge.

Christians(evangelical Protestants) new more about the Bible and Christianity.

donini- "Are we to infer that the more you are to know about religion/god, the less likely you are to believe in same?

"religion/god"....???

You know much less, and next to nothing about God, because you don't even believe there is one.

Saying you know more about God, when you say "there is no God". Is like saying you know more about some city/town/valley/river etc. when you claim that place does not even exist to someone who has been there.

We know more about the Holy Bible, and the God of the Holy Bible.

atheist know more about the various other religions.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 03:40pm PT
wes,

The other day, donini and I were discussing specifically the NY Times article. I am sure you can find/contribute volumes of other evidence one way or the other....like I said, who cares??
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 03:44pm PT
I quoted the article(notice the quotation marks)up thread. It was the one that donini was talking about, and was what came up for that specific day/NYT...

My quotes are from the article that donini was referring to.
WBraun

climber
Oct 1, 2010 - 03:54pm PT
Of course anyone can know a lot about religion through mental gymnastics, mental speculation, and book reading.

That proves absolutely nothing except you're some so called rubber stamped scholar.

God consciousness does not in any way shape or form rely on any of the above methods .........
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 03:55pm PT
wes, a couple days ago they had only part of the report, enough ton draw interest in his study. What you found is in addition to what was on the internet link.

But what is the point?

So atheist know more about other "religions" outside of Christianity/Bible...great, congratulations.

That does not mean they know more about God, or the Bible.

Wes- "I don't see where..."

Let me ask you this, do you see my quotes up thread in the article/report?

TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:04pm PT
The survey is not designed to explore God Consciousness...."

donini- "Are we to infer the more you know about religion/god, the less likely you are to believe in same?"

Donini seems to possibly think otherwise, as he asked/questioned.

That atheist have "more" knowledge about God. And that the more knowledge you have of Him, the less liklely you are to believe in Him.

TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:09pm PT
Wes, i made a direct quote from the NY Times article that came up when I googled the guys name/article.

I quoted the article.
Tony Bird

climber
Northridge, CA
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:13pm PT
a note to jfs. this has been tried:

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1217523/lets-kill-the-god-thread-off-OT

alas, it lives, a veritable force of nature. but there has been progress in the realm of dramatis personae. heavyweight intellectuals have been driven off! it won't last long now!

er, at least it'll never catch the republican thread by christmas ...
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:14pm PT
The article i quoted, and my quote two days ago said, "White Evangelicals"

It says "7.2 %.

Go back and read it.

So what!!!
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:23pm PT
Your not even worth discussing this with, you are missing some critical thinking/whatever axons Bro.

I quoted what donini said "religion/god"..."the more we know about, the lees likely we..."

YOU said somethingn about God Consciousness, which IS knowledge/knowing God.

Christians know Him through a relationship.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:30pm PT
"...you are missing some critical thinking/whatever axons Bro."

Rich!

.....

Keep the charge, Wes. The info age is to ol'time religious fundamentalists what Na is to H20 molecules.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:31pm PT
Correct, I said Christians...the article i quoted said "evangelical Protestants".

I was speaking of what I believe to be known as, and referred to as "The Body of Christ."

And evangelical Protestants is who the "Body of Christ" is in my opinion. When I say "Christians" that is who I am referring to. Not all the others which are not/do not claim to be "born again" that call them selves "Christians". That is the dif. What is wrong with the quote(that i made from the NY Times article)is that there are many "Evangelical Christians" who are of others races/colors other than "white", that didn't make sense to me.

Edit: "Critical thinking skills"....is what I was referring to.


TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:37pm PT
Twisted thinking!
scarface

Trad climber
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
Oh, I see. In your world you can take information, interpret it in your own context to support your own preconceived notion of reality, then loudly proclaim the truth of your conclusion. That must be convenient.

This seems to be SOP, more or less, for just about everyone Wes.

TripL7, don't mind Wes he is dealing with Mormon repression issues.

SF
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:53pm PT
Wes, you really need to read up on the various definitions of "God Consciousness".

According to the Vedic priest...an example would be comparing a wave to the ocean, blah, blah, blah(not being condescending, just don;t have the time to explain their belief in the Oneness of the universe, etc.....

As a Christian, we can be very aware of His Spirit. And I am sure you have little or more likely zero interest in hearing my"Bah, blah, blah, on the subject.

You are extremely ignorant, arrogant and insulting to demean our relationship with God.
TripL7

Trad climber
san diego
Oct 1, 2010 - 04:56pm PT
wes- "know more about..."

It's not what you know more about, it is what you believe.
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