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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 17, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
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From Lorenzo's link:
Medical mistakes — missed diagnoses, medication errors, infections caused by lax hospital procedures — lead to an astounding 400,000 preventable deaths in the United States each year.
Lack of rigor is to blame. Hurried cleaning staff overlook half the items in a hospital room when preparing it for the next patient. The germs are left to linger, causing an infection.
Stressed medical staff frequently fail to clean their hands in between patients, carrying germs from one bed to the next.
Preparing hospitals to cope with Ebola will encourage discipline and attention to correct procedures. That will save lives, even if we’re lucky enough to be spared more cases of this deadly virus.
I may take the time to try to track down that 440,000. The first one I saw said between 210,000 and 420,000. I wonder if this is a case of statistical drift?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 17, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
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I should think that Charles Manson's marriage merits a discussion!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Oregon
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Nov 17, 2014 - 04:57pm PT
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Nov 17, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
I should think that Charles Manson's marriage merits a discussion!
Hardly.
At seven murders over the last 25 years that's approaching 1/4 death per year.
And the number is certain to go down.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:01pm PT
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I want to discuss his marriage, not his legacy.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
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Yes he did .
By proxy.
He was a proxy killer.
Just as US and Israel are doing all over the place ....
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
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Life never dies.
It's impossible to kill life.
It's never ever been done nor can it ever be done ......
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
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all individual life dies.
Never ever happens nor can it.
When your coat gets old and worn out (death) you throw it away.
You "think" you are the coat and are dead now.
The material body is not YOU it's only the coat.
That is the illusion, the coat.
YOU can never ever die .....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
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But you can completely change the behavior of your coat with drugs/surgery/brain tumors/etc. Your coat can go from saint to coat-killer by shifting a few micrograms of brain chemistry around... So the coat, or at least what's in the pockets, is somehow important no?
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
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Werner, the Fifth Manifestation:
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
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So by extrapolation of Werner's Law of Eternity - a little duct tape and one can live forever!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
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The NUMBER 1 leading cause of DEATH is, LIFE.
LIFE was a magazine, old friend, and it died years ago.
But it killed a zillion flies and bugs before it went.
LIFE was beautiful: especially the later, thinner version, which rolled up better and was more flexible.
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Nov 17, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
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Brownie, aren't we supposed to do Sandusky next?
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Nov 17, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
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The Sandusky School for Boys.
Where our motto is "learn to take it like a man".
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 06:44pm PT
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You never know where things will go, but this is starting to be an interesting digression/diversion.
I noted Manson's marriage over on the What Song ... thread a while back. What amazes me is that someone would consider, let alone do it (i.e. the marriage). Does Manson get conjugal visits?
Peter:
You are something else, can we call that Manifest Destiny?
Just think, Bill Cosby hasn't even made an appearance on the thread.
"The next thing I remember was waking up naked next to Bill Cosby in bed"
I would offer up that she should be at least partially thankful that she didn't wake up next to Manson.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
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Manson's marriage has not happened yet. He or she may be waiting out the 21 day quarantine period.
On the Sandusky front (2012 - are we dated here?):
The untold story, though, is about bare-knuckle Pennsylvania politics, old grudges and perceived slights. It involves a stagnated child sexual abuse investigation that, to some, took a backseat to higher-profile cases and a gubernatorial campaign. It involves a head football coach who knew too little and, still, failed to do enough. It includes a passive school board of trustees that for months ignored a lurking controversy and then, under pressure to preserve Penn State's reputation, quickly fired its legendary coach without ever talking with him.
March, 2014
The jurors poured through everything, including defense arguments and cross-examinations, for a day and a half and finally declared Sandusky guilty of 45 counts of various degrees of abuse. Sandusky, now 70, was sentenced to 30 to 60 years behind bars.
An appeal by Sandusky for a new trial went nowhere and an appeal of that appeal is, legal experts believe, likely to find the same fate. Meanwhile, Sandusky sits isolated for 23 hours a day in a Western Pennsylvania prison cell, running out the clock on his sorry life.
The Sandusky "Truthers" hijacking of this story is an insult to the vast majority of Penn State students, alums, faculty, staff and fans who have approached this with open minds and great responsibility. That includes ones who still have reasonable questions about the culpability of their school and the actions of the Board of Trustees and those who understandably rail against vast NCAA sanctions or treatment by the media.
Read here, if you're so inclined
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tv-interview-with-jerry-sandusky-s-wife-an-insult-to-his-victims-025526818.html
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 17, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
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the third leading cause of death in the U.S. (behind heart disease and cancer) is preventable medical errors
Therefore it is the duty of every American to vote to have all hospitals demolished and all medical professionals put to death.
That'll bring down that damn death rate!
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Peter Haan
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
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Nov 17, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
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Brownie, thanks for the update on the fool Sandusky. I guess I had fallen behind on this one. Best not to glance that way of course. As with Conrad's Heart of Darkness, "unspeakable rites". And to imagine he et ux still posit his innocence. Crazy, Crazy, Crazy.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
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Therefore it is the duty of every American to vote to have all hospitals demolished and all medical professionals put to death.
That'll bring down that damn death rate!
Well, technically all those folks were going to die anyway, but it would shift the curve out somewhat if they (the hospitals and med pros) would just pay closer attention to what they are and are not doing?
I don't have them handy, but studies have shown that this latter approach works quite well. Reducing the rates of in-hospital acquired infections is the main one I'm thinking of.
EDIT:
I was changing the wording and removing some, which originally said "A bit too draconian for my taste".
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