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zBrown

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Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 15, 2014 - 05:28pm PT
Who rules the news? Add your favorites or those you just miss.

Dapper Dan

Trad climber
Menlo Park
Nov 15, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
I love your band zBrown...
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2014 - 06:00pm PT
Rock steady!

Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 15, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
They've been replaced by Ferguson, Kardashian and Philae.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2014 - 04:56pm PT
Maybe the 'news' media is busy trying to figure out what the single most important other item to graph on these graphs might be.


Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 16, 2014 - 07:42pm PT
Brownie, once again, I don't see the price of tea in China in there. Whatzzup?!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 16, 2014 - 07:57pm PT
I think that looks like a great graph of something.

Is there a duck on a string here?
If so, I want to try to win a hundred dollars when we find out just what you are trying to say.

I thought earlier, when I glanced at this thread, that it was going to be about a rock band, knowing your bent.Step on it, son. You're gonna drive me to drinkin'.

I used to boulder with Jim Shirley above his trailer next to his folks' place. We had a longish traverse that he called the Blue Line. There a SoCal connection here?

Should we call in Sherlock Holmes or Mason Williams? Are there facts involved? What the hell are they?

Do you know a big fat guy your age with an electric sled? Has he been laughing at you about your taxation, about the price you pay to take a weekend cruise out into the desert?

Frankly, those graphs with the San Diego above next to the blue line reminds me of a map of the Tarahumara gang's turf.

I can smell adventure. I can smell moose droppings. I cannot imagine what you are trying to show.

Pray, tell. Or if y-y-y-you c-c-c-c-can't s-say it, then s-sing it.

Lightning/Bluebird, Bluebird
http://www.last.fm/music/Lightnin%27+Hopkins/_/Bluebird,+Bluebird/+videos/+6-e-FOq9QN3pw
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Nov 16, 2014 - 10:01pm PT
You want data? Here's some on Ebola as compared to some of the other stuff Americans can die of:

Getting hit from a meteorite is also risky. Your chances are 1/700,000 lifetime.
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 16, 2014 - 10:06pm PT
Hey, I'm not as dumb as I wish I was. So shoot me. Please.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 17, 2014 - 02:07am PT
Sandusky: Subitized.
Sanford: Menisectimized.
Ebola: Found to have a twenty percent greater area of physis than is normal in a late teen male.

All three have a history of gout.

How are the feet doin', cowboy?
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:04am PT
Tea has really come into disfavor in China, they are much more intent on houses there, ever since the great Pepsodent Wars have ceased.


and, did you see this coming? When yhou [sic] got a lot a houses, you gotta clean 'em, right? I hope you're getting residuals on this Peter.



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zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:07am PT
I do notice that 9 NFL teams have won 6 games while losing 4, yet, only 5 have won 4 and lost 6.

Is this fair? Should the two groups be taxed differentially.


The rest is left to the reader, but here's a start.


zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:14am PT
^Well it doesn't take Alexander Grothendieck (nod to rgold) to figure out that Ebola just might not be the threat that it was played up to be in the news.

In China, they don't even mention Ebola, they're just concerned with finding some breathable air.


Remember: If you're out tonight (at noon?) on your bike, wear white.


NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 07:14am PT
I think the gas price chart is missing the date of elections
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:20am PT
^You are the only entrant and therefore the winner of the contest. Do you accept paypal? Funnny, cuz' I don't give it.

I think it's time we stop children
What's that sound
Nobody better breathe
What's coming down

(apologies to Neil Young and/or Stephen Stills - there is a rumour that Mr. Stills sometimes looked over Mr. Young's shoulder, which resulted in the breakup)

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 17, 2014 - 07:22am PT
The Blazers are 7-3!!
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:27am PT
Lorenzo:

I am informed, but have not verified, that the third leading cause of death in the U.S. (behind heart disease and cancer) is preventable medical errors.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death.

source: http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/09/20/224507654/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-u-s-hospitals



Source: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6208a8.htm
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Nov 17, 2014 - 08:57am PT
Does that include the Ebola death(s)?

zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 08:59am PT
^These appear to be 2013 numbers, so apparently not.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Nov 17, 2014 - 09:09am PT
http://nypost.com/2014/10/07/dallas-ebola-errors/
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 17, 2014 - 03:33pm PT
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 04:05pm PT
From Lorenzo's link:

Medical mistakes — missed diagnoses, medication errors, infections caused by lax hospital procedures — lead to an astounding 400,000 preventable deaths in the United States each year.

Lack of rigor is to blame. Hurried cleaning staff overlook half the items in a hospital room when preparing it for the next patient. The germs are left to linger, causing an infection.

Stressed medical staff frequently fail to clean their hands in between patients, carrying germs from one bed to the next.

Preparing hospitals to cope with Ebola will encourage discipline and attention to correct procedures. That will save lives, even if we’re lucky enough to be spared more cases of this deadly virus.

I may take the time to try to track down that 440,000. The first one I saw said between 210,000 and 420,000. I wonder if this is a case of statistical drift?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
I should think that Charles Manson's marriage merits a discussion!
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Oregon
Nov 17, 2014 - 04:57pm PT

Nov 17, 2014 - 04:20pm PT
I should think that Charles Manson's marriage merits a discussion!

Hardly.

At seven murders over the last 25 years that's approaching 1/4 death per year.

And the number is certain to go down.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:01pm PT
I want to discuss his marriage, not his legacy.
WBraun

climber
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:09pm PT
Yes he did .

By proxy.

He was a proxy killer.

Just as US and Israel are doing all over the place ....
WBraun

climber
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
Life never dies.

It's impossible to kill life.

It's never ever been done nor can it ever be done ......
WBraun

climber
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
all individual life dies.

Never ever happens nor can it.

When your coat gets old and worn out (death) you throw it away.

You "think" you are the coat and are dead now.

The material body is not YOU it's only the coat.

That is the illusion, the coat.

YOU can never ever die .....
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:36pm PT
But you can completely change the behavior of your coat with drugs/surgery/brain tumors/etc. Your coat can go from saint to coat-killer by shifting a few micrograms of brain chemistry around... So the coat, or at least what's in the pockets, is somehow important no?

Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
Werner, the Fifth Manifestation:

Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
So by extrapolation of Werner's Law of Eternity - a little duct tape and one can live forever!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
The NUMBER 1 leading cause of DEATH is, LIFE.

LIFE was a magazine, old friend, and it died years ago.

But it killed a zillion flies and bugs before it went.

LIFE was beautiful: especially the later, thinner version, which rolled up better and was more flexible.
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 05:47pm PT
Brownie, aren't we supposed to do Sandusky next?
Ricky D

Trad climber
Sierra Westside
Nov 17, 2014 - 06:21pm PT
The Sandusky School for Boys.

Where our motto is "learn to take it like a man".
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 06:44pm PT
You never know where things will go, but this is starting to be an interesting digression/diversion.

I noted Manson's marriage over on the What Song ... thread a while back. What amazes me is that someone would consider, let alone do it (i.e. the marriage). Does Manson get conjugal visits?

Peter:

You are something else, can we call that Manifest Destiny?


Just think, Bill Cosby hasn't even made an appearance on the thread.

"The next thing I remember was waking up naked next to Bill Cosby in bed"

I would offer up that she should be at least partially thankful that she didn't wake up next to Manson.




kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
^
Does Manson get conjugal visits?

no - http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/AP-Exclusive-Charles-Manson-gets-marriage-license-5899163.php

...as a life prisoner with no parole date, Manson is not entitled to family visits, a euphemism for conjugal visits.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
Manson's marriage has not happened yet. He or she may be waiting out the 21 day quarantine period.

On the Sandusky front (2012 - are we dated here?):


The untold story, though, is about bare-knuckle Pennsylvania politics, old grudges and perceived slights. It involves a stagnated child sexual abuse investigation that, to some, took a backseat to higher-profile cases and a gubernatorial campaign. It involves a head football coach who knew too little and, still, failed to do enough. It includes a passive school board of trustees that for months ignored a lurking controversy and then, under pressure to preserve Penn State's reputation, quickly fired its legendary coach without ever talking with him.

March, 2014

The jurors poured through everything, including defense arguments and cross-examinations, for a day and a half and finally declared Sandusky guilty of 45 counts of various degrees of abuse. Sandusky, now 70, was sentenced to 30 to 60 years behind bars.

An appeal by Sandusky for a new trial went nowhere and an appeal of that appeal is, legal experts believe, likely to find the same fate. Meanwhile, Sandusky sits isolated for 23 hours a day in a Western Pennsylvania prison cell, running out the clock on his sorry life.


The Sandusky "Truthers" hijacking of this story is an insult to the vast majority of Penn State students, alums, faculty, staff and fans who have approached this with open minds and great responsibility. That includes ones who still have reasonable questions about the culpability of their school and the actions of the Board of Trustees and those who understandably rail against vast NCAA sanctions or treatment by the media.

Read here, if you're so inclined

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tv-interview-with-jerry-sandusky-s-wife-an-insult-to-his-victims-025526818.html

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 17, 2014 - 08:03pm PT
the third leading cause of death in the U.S. (behind heart disease and cancer) is preventable medical errors

Therefore it is the duty of every American to vote to have all hospitals demolished and all medical professionals put to death.

That'll bring down that damn death rate!
Peter Haan

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, CA
Nov 17, 2014 - 08:06pm PT
Brownie, thanks for the update on the fool Sandusky. I guess I had fallen behind on this one. Best not to glance that way of course. As with Conrad's Heart of Darkness, "unspeakable rites". And to imagine he et ux still posit his innocence. Crazy, Crazy, Crazy.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2014 - 08:32pm PT
Therefore it is the duty of every American to vote to have all hospitals demolished and all medical professionals put to death.

That'll bring down that damn death rate!

Well, technically all those folks were going to die anyway, but it would shift the curve out somewhat if they (the hospitals and med pros) would just pay closer attention to what they are and are not doing?

I don't have them handy, but studies have shown that this latter approach works quite well. Reducing the rates of in-hospital acquired infections is the main one I'm thinking of.

EDIT:
I was changing the wording and removing some, which originally said "A bit too draconian for my taste".



Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 17, 2014 - 08:35pm PT
A bit too draconian for my taste

Well. That does it. Turn in your Tea Party card and go somewhere else.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2014 - 07:43am PT
Speak of the devil and he just might show up. This gal has been trying to prove Manson's innocence for nine years. Must be a hard proof, too bad she can't enlist the help of Mr. Grothendieck.





Burton, who goes by the name "Star," told the AP that she and Manson will be married next month.

"Y'all can know that it's true," she said. "It's going to happen."

"I love him," she added. "I'm with him. There's all kinds of things."

Yes indeed Star, there is all kinds of things.

Here's one from another point of view.

Tate's sister, Debra, who acts as a spokeswoman for the families of Manson's victims, said the impending marriage is "ludicrous."

"I think it's insane," she said. "What would any young woman in her right mind want with an 80-year-old man?"

As for Manson's motives, she said, "The devil is alive and well."


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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 18, 2014 - 09:17am PT
I can't begin to tell you how relieved I am to hear that this marriage will
remain unconsummated, at least on this mortal plane. And it is nice to hear
of a young person like 'Star' who lives on such an ethereal plane.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2014 - 09:52am PT
Well co-pilot to co-pilot, your relief is my command.

Can we move on to Jeannie?

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 18, 2014 - 10:36am PT
Joan Joannie is much MORE ELEPHANT to the "topic."
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/16/showbiz/joan-rivers-clinic/

Let's see what Larry's got to say. He's dead, but he wasn't scared.
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All our politicians DO need to drop.

Then they might be more HIPPO.




Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 18, 2014 - 11:57am PT
Charlie and his gushing bride can invite 10 guests from outside the prison. Who should they invite, and if you got an invite what wedding gift would you buy the happy couple?
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 18, 2014 - 12:09pm PT
I think I would give them a copy of The Tibetan Book Of The Dead.
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 08:19am PT
Can we get a true bill out now or a bill of attainder?

Bill Clinton - deny, deny, deny ... admit ... retract ...
Bill O'Reilly - deny, deny, deny, pay-off, deny, deny
Bill Cosby - deny, deny, deny, pay-off, threaten, deny
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2014 - 08:49pm PT
Well, the Cosby juggernaut has set sail.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/19/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/bill-cosby-allegations/index.html

About now he's wishing Jeannie could just disappear the whole thing.

Any bets on how long it will last on the front pages of the cables news shows?
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 19, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
Any bets on how long it will last on the front pages of the cables news shows?

Until whoever the front-runner in the next election is accused of f*#king dead people?

Until Kim Kardashian tweets about tomorrow morning's bowel movement?

Until one of the fired Clif Bar athletes is caught on camera eating a Power Bar?
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Nov 20, 2014 - 06:00am PT
Until they hear another alleged "ping" from that missing airliner 20,000' under the ocean.

Sheeple news... all the time... Be scared Be scared!
Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Nov 20, 2014 - 06:06am PT
I get the sense that Sandusky is in his own personal heaven. Locked up with men and boys (relatively), showering with men and boys, sharing meals with men and boys, sharing tight quarters with men and boys.

Living in Pennsylvania, there is a certified way to get in a brawl without the intervention of alcohol. Just say 'Joe Pa turned his back' to a Penn State alum. It's that simple.
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