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Clint Cummins

Trad climber

SF Bay area, CA

Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 29, 2014 - 10:27pm PT

I was going to bump an old thread with this topic,
but after khanom was expunged (banned with all his posts unviewable),
it is locked.
So I'll start the new version.
Link to original thread:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/977080/New-New-FORUM-thoughts-and-suggestions-for-Cmac-RJ
I'll repeat my suggestions from June 19, 2014:
= = = = =
Some ideas which should help improve quality of posts:

don't allow deleting a post (OK to edit it to remove all text, though)
[this means all posts are visible at some level, and also prevents
thread deletion - people should only be allowed to edit their own posts
and not make other people's posts invisible or hard to find]

if a post is edited, add a time stamp (when it was edited)
[shows if a person changed their post]

in left column for a post, under "climber type" and "location", add date joined, and combined number of posts and TRs
[makes it easier to identify the "fresh alts" and also the "old pros"]

allow editing of thread title (once) to fix typos
[if editing posts is a good thing, so is editing titles]
= = = = =

And add one new suggestion:

do not expunge users who have made positive contributions. Just ban them in the old way - disable their ability to post or edit.
[I have to wonder if this "expunge" style ban is the legacy of Matt Gilchrist?
A ban should be a "timeout" for current bad behavior,
not a retroactive attempt to forget everything the person ever contributed.]

Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber

San Francisco

Oct 29, 2014 - 10:44pm PT

Allow back Matt Gilchrist.
Ban Dodger fans.
Send me free gear.
Don't read personal PMs!!!

Big Mike

Trad climber

Oct 29, 2014 - 10:46pm PT

Paginate my huge tr please!

:)

Edit: I should say, If you could please paginate my TR RJ, that would be lovely. Thanks for all your hard work here.

Flip Flop

Trad climber

Truckee, CA

Oct 30, 2014 - 12:02am PT

Once the guards caved on reading mail the inmates ruled the asylum.

graniteclimber

Trad climber

The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division

Oct 30, 2014 - 12:28am PT

do not expunge users who have made positive contributions. Just ban them in the old way - disable their ability to post or edit.
[I have to wonder if this "expunge" style ban is the legacy of Matt Gilchrist?
A ban should be a "timeout" for current bad behavior,
not a retroactive attempt to forget everything the person ever contributed.]

Word!

Remember why posters cannot edit posts that are more than 10 days old. This was to prevent people from deleting all their posts and chopping up threads. The history is here: http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2518874&msg=2519055#msg2519055

One silver lining from what's been happening is that one thing led to another and I spent the morning looking through historical threads. It was a productive and enjoyable use of my time and I intend to do this more often. Most of older threads are well under 300 posts, and some are as short as 15. Many, many treasures there. http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2518874&msg=2518874#msg2518874

Travis Haussener

Trad climber

Salt Lake City

Oct 30, 2014 - 07:22am PT

And once in a while feature my TR's on the monthly email.

anita514

Gym climber

Great White North

Oct 30, 2014 - 07:23am PT

Allow back Matt Gilchrist.

Really?
Then allow The Hawk back on too!

Port

Trad climber

Norwalk, CT

Oct 30, 2014 - 07:30am PT

A "like" button that bumps threads to the top.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Oct 30, 2014 - 08:00am PT

I agree that there are certain modifications that would really improve this forum. I like a lot of what Clint suggests, with DMTs observation.

It would be great to have a Like button so really good threads don't disappear into the bowels. There are amazing threads that have been posted over the years, and it's too difficult to revive them after they disappear of the top couple of pages. Some great threads get buried even after a week.

As for a code monkey, I'm sure the talent could be found, for free, if the bosses decided it was in their interest.

Jingy

climber

Somewhere out there

Oct 30, 2014 - 08:29am PT

I no longer feel that it matters.

Not to mention, what I can say could be said so much better by the more scholarly among you.

Nothing is wrong, everything is normal, this is just the way it is, some things will never change. Talk amongst yourselves.

couchmaster

climber

Oct 30, 2014 - 08:35am PT

Re: Dongus suggestion upthread. I'd be fine with people being able to delete a post of a thread they started, as long as it didn't kill the thread and effectively erase everyones posts.

I know this has been suggested, but segmenting things into forums via interest is still of interest to me. Historical threads seem to just walk off the front page. Perhaps it could be coupled with folks being able to vote on the threads they like or posters words somehow? (kmans "like" button above)

Anyway, thanks for the site, I know it's probably a lot like herding cats for you at times:-)

RP3

Big Wall climber

Twain Harte

Oct 30, 2014 - 09:00am PT

Clint brings up some fantastic ideas.

I wholeheartedly agree with not deleting a person's posts once they have been banned. The forum has lost some of its best historical threads and ethical debates as a result of this.

Thanks you Chris and RJ for the work that you do.

phylp

Trad climber

Upland, CA

Oct 30, 2014 - 09:02am PT

Thank you Clint.

guido

Trad climber

Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific

Oct 30, 2014 - 10:18am PT

Always such a rational and contributing person on ST. Clint for President!

mike m

Trad climber

black hills

Oct 30, 2014 - 10:23am PT

Allow you to turn photos after they have uploaded.

Braunini

Big Wall climber

cupertino

Oct 30, 2014 - 10:53am PT

another one of these threads

predicted majority response: AAHHHH DON'T CHANGE OR IMPROVE ANYTHING

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Oct 30, 2014 - 11:08am PT

Keep the emphasis on climbing.

Don't post in a way that chases folks away from this forum as this is a made possible by free and open participation supporting business activity.

Keep it entertaining and civil.

If you get warned about your posting style or behavior do the work necessary to correct the problem at the source.