The New "Religion Vs Science" Thread

True, but science also gave us stone tools and agriculture. Just imagine how primitive we'd be if all we had was religion.

These mass killings are about many things — guns, demagogy, etc. — but they are also about social isolation and the spreading derangement of the American mind.

Killing sprees are just one manifestation of the fact that millions of Americans find themselves isolated and alone. But there are other manifestations of this isolation, which involve far more carnage.

The suicide epidemic is a manifestation. The suicide rate is dropping across Europe. But it has risen by 30 percent in the United States so far this century. The suicide rate for Americans between 10 and 17 rose by more than 70 percent between 2006 and 2016 — surely one of the most shocking trends in America today.

Every year nearly 45,000 Americans respond to isolation and despair by ending their lives. Every year an additional 60,000 die of drug addiction. Nearly twice as many Americans die each year of these two maladies as were killed in the entire Vietnam War.

The rising levels of depression and mental health issues are yet another manifestation. People used to say that depression and other mental health challenges were primarily about chemical imbalances in the brain.

But as Johann Hari argues in his book “Lost Connections,” these mental health issues are at least as much about problems in life as one’s neurochemistry. They are at least as much about protracted loneliness, loss of meaningful work, feeling pressured and stressed in the absence of community.

Most of us bought into a radical individualism that, as Tocqueville predicted, cuts each secluded self off from other secluded selves. Most of us buy into a workaholic ethos that leaves us with little time for community. Most of us live in insular media and social bubbles that provide us with Pravda-like affirmations of our own moral superiority. Most of us hew to a code of privacy that leads us to not know our neighbors.

Understanding nuclear physics doesn't kill people, politicians with nukes kill people.

Recall the hoax papers of a month ago exposing and highlighting the bs of "grievance studies" in the social sciences and humanities. Two of the three authors, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay, sat down to talk about it with Joe Rogan today...

all the while handing WHOMEVERS in power lists of people they wouldn't mind disappearing...

Haha... yeah, the scientists ordered those tests... the all powerful scientists... you must all do as we say.

What a load of crap.

on 7 October, Ashiq Masih, Bibi’s husband, said his wife was “spiritually strong” and “ready and willing to die for Christ”, adding that she will “never convert to Islam”

Blaming scientists like that, rather than the political and military forces, is like blaming all religion for the actions of Isis or Rev Jones... it is about as f*#king stupid as you can get.

What a strange post. It leads me to wonder to what extent you're even aware of the issue or set of issues (e.g., "feminist geology").

What does science (not politicians or the misuse if science, but actual science) tell us that promotes hate for others? Because the bible flat out tells followers to hate and kill others... esp women and children of nonbelievers

Fact is, religion falls far short of accurately describing the universe and providing sound guidance for humans, the only exception I am aware of being Ezekiel 23:20.

And the bible also tells people to love one another and not murder each other.

Science doesn't advocate building bombs you dipsh#t.