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moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Jul 10, 2017 - 09:46pm PT
I found Jesus, he is in gluten!!!

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/10/536466553/gluten-free-host-a-no-go-says-pope

"a recent church directive emphatically states that the wafer known as the host must contain gluten."

Moose
Lovegasoline

Trad climber
Brooklyn, NY
Jul 11, 2017 - 01:58am PT
Religious leaders get high on magic mushrooms ingredient – for science

"Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore enlists priests, rabbis and a Buddhist to test the effects of psychedelic drugs on religious experience.

A Catholic priest, a Rabbi and a Buddhist walk into a bar and order some magic mushrooms. It may sound like the first line of a bad joke, but this scenario is playing out in one of the first scientific investigations into the effects of psychedelic drugs on religious experience – albeit in a laboratory rather than a bar.

Scientists at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore have enlisted two dozen religious leaders from a wide range of denominations, to participate in a study in which they will be given two powerful doses of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms"


https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/08/religious-leaders-get-high-on-magic-mushrooms-ingredient-for-science?CMP=share_btn_tw
WBraun

climber
Jul 11, 2017 - 08:29am PT
To a true enlightened being, nothing would happen.

Such a being's consciousness is so far above that lower still material consciousness of any psychedelic drugs, peyote, psilocybin etc.

This why modern material scientists are so clueless.

They have no clue beyond the material realm.

They are stuck in the mud ......
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Jul 11, 2017 - 10:04am PT
I've been living in Salt Lake City for the last ten days, working on my P2 paraglider rating. It takes a lot of work.

I think that I've seen one black person since I got here. It is lilly white mormon.

So I've been reading Krakauer's book Under The Banner of Heaven" about the FLDS polygamists in Colorado City, where they marry off 14 year old girls. I think that it is a pedophile's dream.

Regular mormons are nice people. Good neighbors. Fun to work with. I've also downloaded the Book of Mormon to read after I finish the book. I have skimmed it, but never read every word.

It is an odd religion. It says that a person can have personal conversations with God. Not too unusual that that has led to over 200 offshoots of the main church, most of which have failed.

Interesting book. He pulls no punches about the fundamentalists, and how they arrived at their thinking, as well as a good look at the mainstream church. He doesn't criticize the main church at all. The whole book is sort of journalistic. He just cites facts. He doesn't interpret them for you.

Do any other religions share that quality? That any individual can have personal conversations and instructions from God?
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Jul 11, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
That any individual can have personal conversations and instructions from God?

Not much of a conversation, but I get instructions from God every day. My wife is the medium, apparently.

;-)

Moose
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 17, 2017 - 10:08am PT
Scale, by Geoffrey West

Scale: The Universal Laws of Growth, Innovation, Sustainability, and the Pace of Life in Organisms, Cities, Economies, and Companies

https://www.amazon.com/Scale-Universal-Innovation-Sustainability-Organisms/dp/1594205582/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500310966&sr=8-1&keywords=scale+west

From Cells to Cities
A Conversation w Geoffrey West

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/from-cells-to-cities
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Jul 17, 2017 - 02:22pm PT
Saw the The Book of Mormon musical yesterday in San Jose.

Awesome!

LMAO!

Moose
sycorax

Boulder climber
Yoknapatawpha County
Jul 17, 2017 - 04:02pm PT
Seems theater trumps tech museum just steps away. My dentist just saw Hamilton in SF. Could the humanities be cool after all?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 18, 2017 - 07:23pm PT
I took the pro truth pledge!

https://www.protruthpledge.org


...

re: narrow-minded liberal hypocrites

Liberal hypocrites refuse to criticize Islamism. Result: field is left to right-wing xenophobes.

http://sister-hood.com/maryam-namazie/this-is-my-letter-to-you/
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Jul 21, 2017 - 08:50am PT
re: Free speech?

It's getting ever harder to identify as a "liberal" in America...

Richard Dawkins deplatformed... In Wichita, KS? No. In Berkeley...

...when we didn’t know he had offended and hurt...

lol

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/richard-dawkins-deplatformed-at-a-book-talk-berkeley-for-abusive-speech-about-islam-on-twitter/

...

Who was Henry Drummond?

"Gentlemen, progress has never been a bargain, you have to pay for it. Sometimes I think there is a man who sits behind a counter and says, Alright you can have a telephone but you lose privacy and the charm of distance. Madam, you may vote, but at a price - you lose the right to retreat behind the powder puff or your petticoat. Mr., you may conquer the air but the birds will lose their wonder and the clouds will smell of gasoline. Darwin took us forward to a hilltop from where we could look back and see the way from which we came. But for this insight and for this knowledge we must abandon our faith in the pleasant poetry of Genesis."

Inherit the Wind, 1960
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