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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jan 31, 2015 - 12:02pm PT
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The effects of acceleration on the human body isn't an issue with speed of light travel.
Been there. Done that.
Now, explain the Shrike. (not a shrike!)
Sure, why not? As long as “you” are your brain
You sound a tad skeptical, Mike.
;>)
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Jan 31, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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Actually blue, we paid money to get that information. Those old fossils don't give themselves away for free.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 31, 2015 - 05:06pm PT
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The truth is always free and never costs anything.
The Large Hadron Collider at cern was billions of dollars spent.
Only to stare at more matter but not truth.
Truth will elude them for they tax the poor citizens of the world with more and more materialism.
Truth is far far beyond the the cost of matter and is always purely free from it .....
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jan 31, 2015 - 07:07pm PT
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no no sorry Jan!
Speaking of which, a cousin of mine turned up with H. denisova genes thanks to our Native American ancestors. Whillans being from Britain is most likely neanderthal however.
mine was only an attempt at humor.
pointed toward the 'americans' that stirred the gene pool..
poor attempt i know!
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Jan 31, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
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Sorry back, your humor sailed right over my head.
Probably most people lack a sense of humor about their profession and their ancestors. It's that old ego thing again that MikeL was talking about.
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Jan 31, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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'My Viking Death'
English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh,
Polish, Danish, Norwegian, and Swede,
To pillage and rape,
And plunder with greed,
My penchant for violence,
A despicable deed,
What an ugly affair,
That, my Viking breed,
English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh,
Polish, Danish, Norwegian, and Swede,
Arrows igniting my funeral pyre,
A Viking farewell would be all I should need.
-bushman
01/31/2015
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 31, 2015 - 09:57pm PT
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Jgill: You sound a tad skeptical, Mike.
:-)
(I’m skeptical about everything, John.)
:-)
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jan 31, 2015 - 10:17pm PT
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Bushman,
Yum, i like that one
i relish the look in my grandpa Classon's eye's when he would bring home a 60lb Salmon.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jan 31, 2015 - 10:22pm PT
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(I’m skeptical about everything, John.)
what IS FORMidable in MikeL's eyes?
(eye's may be a metaphor here)
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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BB: what IS FORMidable in MikeL's eyes?
Form. It gets everyone going.
(But you know what the Heart Sutra says about form . . . .)
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WBraun
climber
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But you know what the Heart Sutra says about form
Tell us please .....
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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The Heart Sutra (The Prajnaparamita-Hrdaya Sutra): English Translation
Read: Heart Sutra in Chinese and Pinyin
When Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara practised the deep Prajnaparamita, he saw that the five skandhas were empty; thus he overcame all ills and suffering.
"O Sariputra! Form does not differ from the void, and the void does not differ from the form. Form is the void, and the void is form. The same is true for feelings, conceptions, impulses and consciousness.
O Sariputra, the characteristics of the void is not created, not annihilated, not impure, not pure, not increasing, not decreasing.
Therefore, in the void there are no forms and no feelings, conceptions, impulses and no consciousness: there is no eye, ear, nose, tongue, body or mind; there is no form, sound, smell, taste, touch or idea; no eye elements, until we come to no elements of consciousness; no ignorance and also no ending of ignorance, until we come to no old age and death; and no ending of old age and death.
Also, there is no truth of suffering, of the cause of suffering, of the cessation of suffering or of the path. There is no wisdom, and there is no attainment whatsoever. Because there is nothing to be attained, a Bodhisattva relying on Prajnaparamita has no obstruction in his heart. Because there is no obstruction he has no fear, and he passes far beyond all confused imagination and reaches Ultimate Nirvana.
All Buddhas in the past, present and future have attained Supreme Enlightenment by relying on the Prajnaparamita. Therefore we know that the Prajnaparamita is the great magic Mantra, the great Mantra of illumination, it is the supreme Mantra, the unequaled Mantra which can truly wipe out all suffering without fail."
Therefore, he uttered the Prajnaparamita mantra, by saying:
"Gate, Gate, Paragate, Parasemgate Bodhi-svaha!"
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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The Heart Sanscrit, interesting, but probably not nearly as deeply groked by this non-Buddhist. But, would not the seeds of imagination sewed throughout our cultures by 'science fiction thinking' be also thought of as another 'form' of transcendence, where the outcome has no 'true meaning', yet oft times spurs the technological and in the rarest of cases some sociological advancement of our civilization.
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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All should take a look at the NY Times Sunday Book Review letters page today. Fascinating, reads like a page from this thread. Best to read the article associated with the page from several weeks ago as well... enjoy!
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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The heart sutra expresses what your view is if you are no longer attached to "I", ego etc.. If you try to interpret it from an egocentric view point it won't fit.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Bushman:
Thanks for the assist. Werner surely knows it. My words would be purely ridiculous gobblygook to most readers, anyway. Better to rely upon the classic original.
It would be sometimes best to put at the lead of some of our posts what Wikipedia often leads with on some of its pages:
"This article may be too technical for most readers to understand. Please help improve this article to make it understandable to non-experts, without removing the technical details."
Hey, Paul:
I think the writings to what you point (both) might be a tad more erudite there than here. And, thanks.
(I’m tempted to apply the Heart Sutra to those writings in the NYTs, kindly.)
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Form is the void, and the void is form
I think probably I need to see this another 100 times and then it will become my personal mantra. It does have a certain cachet.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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What a thing a beauty, eh?
how the whole shebang (i.e., the Superbowl 49) was "determined" - fully caused, fully-ruled, fully-ordered - including those last two catches!! - and yet also... THAT OUTCOME - completely up in the air, in other words.... UNPREDICTABLE!!11
Wow! Incredible! That's what I'm talkin!! :)
DETERMINED YET UNPREDICTABLE!!
Life is good!!! :)
......
btw, those catches...
"That was Me." -God
"Cheaters often win. Congratulations, Patriots!" -God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCG8jz9hXME
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Also, there is no truth of suffering, of the cause of suffering, of the cessation of suffering or of the path. There is no wisdom, and there is no attainment whatsoever. Because there is nothing to be attained, a Bodhisattva relying on Prajnaparamita has no obstruction in his heart. Because there is no obstruction he has no fear, and he passes far beyond all confused imagination and reaches Ultimate Nirvana.
This basically makes 'ultimate nirvana' sound like a brain of new-born sucking on her moms boob. You know, before any 'confused imagination'.. and none of it seems noteworthy to an adult living in todays world.
^^^That's what i wanted to say. Mostly because i don't understand words like pajamarama, or whatever.
On the flip side. Through my understanding of the bible, and life itself. Suffering is mandated in life on this planet. We all suffer everyday in the chores of work. Either physically, or mentally. What's key is the attitude we're able to uphold. Now, if the point of ultimate nirvana is just to dismiss suffering, and pretend it's not there, then could that be considered a confused imagination?
Jesus said to forgive those who do evil against us. This passage alone has cleaned my blackened heart, and i carry NO fear! So much so, i find myself testing it daily. To the point of it ALMOST scares me,but then i jus revert to His word and my armor is restored!
Praise Jah!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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DETERMINED YET UNPREDICTABLE!!
the only thing that was determined was the suiting-up, and the X's and O's on the chalkboard! The rest was up to EACH INDIVIDUALS IMAGINATION'S!!
man ur a shallow dude
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