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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 23, 2014 - 11:19am PT
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DMT,
We may carry on, but I think we're the poorer for it. Through ST, I got to think of Dr. F. and you, among several others, not as mere posters, but as friends. Fortunately, I still can maintain contact with Craig, but I will miss his posts here. They not only provided me with great entertainment (OK, sometimes a great target, too), but they did so with humor and grace, just as yours do so often.
I just have a hard time seeing from his posts and his person how he deserved his banishment.
John
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Oct 23, 2014 - 11:37am PT
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ps. Now that I think about it, of all the model gods Ive ever read about, the capricious and 'quite human' Greek ones were my favorite.
Not to pollute the reincarnation of this science thread with religion, but the Greeks viewed capriciousness and apathy concerning human activity as an essential divine attribute. They believed that any "god" that cared about human activity enough to intervene in it was, by doing so, being controlled by humans, and therefore could not be a "god." Several of the Pauline Epistles, but particularly the first chapter of First Corinthians, acknowledge that the idea of God saving humanity was folly to the Greek mind.
John
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 23, 2014 - 12:27pm PT
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Yep. This is the model of open forum moderation I have always advocated here. Don't get involved, whack when you feel like it and never explain.
Sounds to me more like a third world dictatorship than a form of moderation.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 23, 2014 - 12:35pm PT
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I don't disagree with that assessment but I object to military style discipline, especially from those claiming to be free wheeling individualists. Arbitrary over reaction, mass punishment, and no explanations.
Think of the wider implications for our democracy. Are you really saying that we are incapable of governing ourselves without a dictator?
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Jan
Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
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Oct 23, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
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So Americans can handle life and democracy but climbers can't? :)
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paul roehl
Boulder climber
california
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Oct 23, 2014 - 01:48pm PT
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Oh yeah watch it says quite a bit.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 23, 2014 - 05:34pm PT
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Instead of bitching start a new religion vs science thread.
I dare ya :-)
Anyways doesn't matter as there is God.
Atheist has no clue and is only a mental speculator who ultimately guesses about everything just like republicans. :-)
And ...... there's no escape from that truth .....
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 23, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
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Atheist(read xtian) has no clue and is only a mental speculator who ultimately guesses about everything just like republicans (read animals). :-)
And ...... there's no escape from that truth
 updated to reflect a bit of reality.
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Bushman
Social climber
The island of Tristan da Cunha
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Oct 23, 2014 - 06:07pm PT
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Stuperposto
Validate the post
Validate the carrion
Validate my ego
Validate or roast
Validate contrarians
Validate a bagel
Validate my mind
Validate my bod
Validate euclidean
Validate in kind
Validate what's odd
Validate Phrygian
Validate validity
Validate my cat
Validate a kiss
Validate stupidity
Validate that
Validate this
-bushman
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 23, 2014 - 08:38pm PT
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^^^That's Great
on supertaco we can validate
we write musings of our love and hate
the hucking back and forth we call a debate
emotions get trampled when intentions are to educate
why can't we understand we're here to create
fa's, solo's, walls, 5.19's cry for a mandate
but it is the heart of the adventurer we should propagate
when the heart is soaring don't hesitate
let it fly procreate
only with words can we try to resonate
experience is mine my word's are a gift for yo to appreciate
only the eraser should we negate
to each their own should be the state
one day soon God will vindicate
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Oct 24, 2014 - 03:18am PT
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bushman and blueblocr
room for all
Jingy or is it jingy?
if you only get to ask one question ..to ask. what should that question be??
GOD?
it really only works as I posed it on the other thread that just opened
but glad to have both you
and
ALL..back
on this thread
even if it hurts
to whom it may concern HELLO
the name is GNOME Ofthe Diabase some here get pissy at my initials
what is in a name?... It speaks to some thing Throwpie, I hope saw, and can tell about.
On the West coast of the Hudson River way back East 'cha know is a four or five pitches high
(old rope length165'or150feet useable, both tied in)
Swath of off limits (why?) solid collumnar rock some would call it traprock: Diabase doncha' know
God is in the name you use also too
a rose by any other name would smell stink just as sweet: the same
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 24, 2014 - 06:59am PT
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DMT: I think there is solid argument to be made that above a certain (relative) size, democracy is unworkable.
Read Alexis de Toqueville’s “Democracy in America.” As an American, you need some distance to see the forest from the trees. Almost no one provides good commentary on his or her own culture. It's like awareness being aware of awareness.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 24, 2014 - 07:15am PT
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To support Khanom’s argument once again, here are two images that might explain why it is of economic use simply to use a product to a vendor—even if it is free of charge to the user. A MSP (multiple sided platform) creates economic value by bringing together two different users groups that want access to each other. Usually one user group will subsidize (pick up the tab) for the other user group (called, the monied side). I’ve also included a slide of well-known MSP arrangements among different user groups brought together by an MSP.
Fascilitating markets (places where buyers can find sellers and vice versa) might be one of the greatest ways to create economic value there is. We believe in it economically and democratically.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 24, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
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Who can forget the unforgettable words of the great minds of the religion thread...?
Apr 13, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
I don't hate religion or the concept of Christianity, it's the people who proliferate it, evangelize it, bastardize it, kill in the name of it, and otherwise ram it down the throats of everyone around them that irritates the sh*t outta me.
Aside from that, it's great!
After reading this post from the front page of the religion thread... I felt like I had allies on this board.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 24, 2014 - 07:23pm PT
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HFCS - Send me an email, I got something interesting for you, if you are interested.
Cheers
(Edit: I have pointed to all that I thought you'd find interesting in other posts... no need to contact any longer
Cheers)
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 25, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
Oct 24, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
Who can forget the unforgettable words of the great minds of the religion thread...?
Apr 13, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
I don't hate religion or the concept of Christianity, it's the people who proliferate it, evangelize it, bastardize it, kill in the name of it, and otherwise ram it down the throats of everyone around them that irritates the sh*t outta me.
Aside from that, it's great!
After reading this post from the front page of the religion thread... I felt like I had allies on this board.
So Jingy, what do you find great about christianity?
Do you feel to be corrupted by the negative aspects written in the above by anyone around here on the Taco?
i feel like the only thing being rammed down throats everywhere is science.
It's understandable for the science types to conflate Islam to Isis. Being under the law of cause-effect, when a recipe is written, what it produces is proof/truth. What Isol is doing today could be saved as a truth prescribed by the Koran. But where science is naive is in conflating the old testament to the new testament. The bible is filled with many books. But it is severely separated into halves. The old testament; which is spiritually known as, "the shadow of things to come" - Vs. the new testament. The OT is The Law, and deals with the negative aspect, and hate there-in materialism. But the second half, the NT, or the ending, considers remorse, and offers forgiveness as the dominate energy.
The old testament was the cause for the effect in the new testament..
Thus The Whole Truth is in The Bible.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 25, 2014 - 09:49pm PT
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Then I said "The Bible is a total lie. Total. Lie."
And then I said. " if you've seen one religious nutcase then you've seen them all. Same nutter. Different books."
And then I posted some HitchSlap.
And then I posted an eating popcorn gif.
And then.......no more "And then" .
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Oct 25, 2014 - 10:02pm PT
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It's cool Flop, someday u'll Flip
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