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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
one pass away from the big ditch
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Sep 19, 2006 - 12:59pm PT
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Big deal if you fix in the BC. Just take it down after a reasonable time.
I used to get my panties in a bunch from fixing in the BC. Ruining the wilderness experience. Now I try to figure out the reasoning first before hector projectoring onto others how they should experience the world. I said try, not that I always do. Especially online.
Now how about those copperhead placements for putting in a bolt?
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Ksolem
Trad climber
LA, Ca
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Sep 19, 2006 - 01:05pm PT
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I did the climb in august with Ultrabiker and another. I would add the following comments.
If you think the climbing on the upper section is 5.8, you are probably from New Paltz?
Each of us had our own reaction to the fixed lines (we knew they would be there 'cause the trail crew guys told us when we passed them at work.) Personally I was a bit put off that they would do that. BUT, we decided to pay the whole thing no mind and have fun, which we did. At the time we were there the ropes did not interfere or get in the way, perhaps they got moved around later.
I do agree with the OP, that this would be an unfortunate trend to see develope... even at roadside crags let alone in the back country.
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Old_Duffer
Trad climber
Lake Arrowhead
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Sep 19, 2006 - 01:22pm PT
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Cochise Stronghold IS a little TROLL. HE does have WARTS !!
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clustiere
Trad climber
Durango, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 29, 2006 - 02:22am PT
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oh Graves. go climb a rock
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clustiere
Trad climber
berkeley ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2008 - 03:31am PT
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The rout is good and it is likely .10-
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