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Splater

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Grey Matter
Aug 9, 2014 - 11:09pm PT
Spider Savage wrote
>>I've been working on my letter.. and I've hit on an idea.
IF you have the time to read it, here is my first rough draft of the things they should know when making decisions on what to do:

>> 1) Williamson Rock is not considered a high quality climbing area.

Disagree. Lots of climbers like it.

>> 2) There are many options around the region with climbing at Idyllwild.

Disagree. There are actually limited options in hot summer. Williamson is the only big summer crag in the entire ANF.

>> 3) ...Very few climbers would consider walking all the way from the parking lot at Krakta Ridge.
>> 4) A climbing area can become popular for a period of time. But then the popularity goes away, almost always. The rise in popularity can usually be traced to one person or a small group of persons who put up new routes.

Disagree. If it were reopened, it would again become popular.

>> 5) Climbers like variety. They donít like to do the same old climbs over and over. The average climber might visit a place like Mt Williamson once or just a few times a year.

Disagree. Lots of climbers used to and would again go a lot more than that. There is no such thing as an average climber.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 9, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
I think we need to prove that we can be worked with, and that we are cooperative as a community. This angry young man stuff seems cool but it's going to bite us. We need to network and form relationships with the authorities.

Bingo.

If we are good stewards, and demonstrate good ethics, then things can change.

Actually working to build that trail (in the right way) would do a lot to help.

The forest is looking at spending a LOT of scarce money to build infrastructure just for climbers.
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 10, 2014 - 08:59am PT
SOWR - Yep, Holcomb is the new popular summer area, as per my "new area" theory.

Splatter - Good. Need more people to chime in and bash my write up with their wisdom. It's how we get places.
pud

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Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Aug 11, 2014 - 04:41pm PT


The Center for Biological Diversity controls the Federal government.
overwatch

climber
Aug 11, 2014 - 05:16pm PT
Try the Black Tower area if you want to beat the crowds and the heat. You will need gear though
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