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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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Proper ladies don't feel comfortable
Participating in
Circle Jerks
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Seamstress said it very well. The abuse and disrespect factor is high plus I honestly don't think anyone is interested in my ultra light duty stories. If I have questions, I email them or fb. I also prefer climbing alone, too many experiences with judgmental, ass.hole dudes.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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That sucks Michelle. That sucks Seamstress too that you felt like that.
I can't believe people who take shots at members who take the time and effort to put up a trip report.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY SHUT THE FVCK UP!!
This is a climbing forum, and climbing content should be encouraged, not discouraged.
Anyone caught discouraging content should be banned!!
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Oh?
You sure?
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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THREAD DRIFT WARNING
Athletic, strong, fit, bold females are great. Women who are comfortable with themselves rock.
bust size? MEH!!!
more than a minimum of makeup? ugh!
intellect, personality, integrity rule.
The more a woman subscribes to the pouty-lip slick airbrushed boob-enhanced media "ideal" the less likely I am to find her attractive.
Some makeup and hair poofing is fine if she's dolled up for a special occasion.
Otherwise BLETCCH (as a certain comic book character is known to wail)
An attractive women I know is a still fit ex-olympic rower/current bicycle racer who wears rather plain clothes and minimal makeup. Most wouldn't call her pretty. She's a kind, charming, accomplished professional woman and a delight to be with. Ditto a couple of women climbers I know well.
The current media frenzy on young babes and stars is giving our young women very bad role models and an emphasis on superficial glitz instead of substance and character. Miley Cyrus, Angelina Jolie's latest skin tight dress, the Kardashians? Give me a break!!!!
(A. Jolie sounds like an interesting woman)
Curmudgeon Rant Of The Week
PS: I've always enjoyed climbing with women of all levels of talent. I don't even mind if she dances up the 10c that just spanked me. Good for her.
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thebravecowboy
climber
in the face of the fury of the funk
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Actually a simpler method would be to have a daily/weekly post quota.
The quota gets reduced if the person posts negatives.
I like this idea Clint
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adikted
Boulder climber
Tahooooeeeee
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Bump for less bro content more lady input!!
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scuffy b
climber
heading slowly NNW
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Well stated, Seamstress. My regrets.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Almost all the posts on this page of this thread and lots of other posts in other pages of this
thread insinuate that the only value women have to offer men on supertopo is what our bodies look like. Whether we are round or narrow, pretty or ugly, athletically built or not. It is easy to understand why many women avoid posting here. The complexity of who we are gets narrowed down to one dimension. That is the essence of objectification.
Do women exist to provide what you want visually? Is that all we have to offer? See the "how to women feel about the boob thread" thread to understand how we feel about the objectification of women on supertopo. You might be quite attached to your way of relating to women. I'm probably not going to change this with this post. You might think it's flattering to be selected out solely for your physical attractiveness.
This is not a women-friendly forum and most of those of us who are here post or lurk because we appreciate the gems that shine here. Some of those gems are people and some are in the content. Thank you for reading if you are one of the gems.
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO
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Daphne:
Thanks for your courage to post.
Straight forward, easy to understand, well stated, to the point.
Thanks again!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Daphne kicks ass!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Almost all the posts on this page of this thread and lots of other posts in other pages of this
thread insinuate that the only value women have to offer men on supertopo is what our bodies look like. Whether we are round or narrow, pretty or ugly, athletically built or not. It is easy to understand why many women avoid posting here. The complexity of who we are gets narrowed down to one dimension. That is the essence of objectification.
Do women exist to provide what you want visually? Is that all we have to offer? See the "how to women feel about the boob thread" thread to understand how we feel about the objectification of women on supertopo. You might be quite attached to your way of relating to women. I'm probably not going to change this with this post. You might think it's flattering to be selected out solely for your physical attractiveness.
This is not a women-friendly forum and most of those of us who are here post or lurk because we appreciate the gems that shine here. Some of those gems are people and some are in the content. Thank you for reading if you are one of the gems.
Daphne,
On behalf of the men on this forum , forgive us for our tendency toward objectification, or don't. The fact is that as a woman you will not understand the male sexual drive mechanics. Or their inherent stupidity, or the male ego.
Women are wired different, not exactly opposite, nor necessarily equal. Different. Superior to the male side of the species in many ways, the world needs its women leading, thinking, creating, caring, deciding...(again forgive me for speaking in generalities.)
Men routinely, underestimate the complexity of woman. Some men will never learn. Many of the men here do respect women and are "gems", others not so much.
Women are a barely explored universe, or so I believe.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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^^^^^^^. Oh Sully, not so fast, suffering builds character. I forget which guy said that.
Susan
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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I think women are beautiful.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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the fair maiden
Where? I want to see.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I forget which guy said that.
Your sarcasm oozes. Good one.
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Supertopo lady friends, thank you for trying, yet again, for trying to explain why most of the fantastic women who used to post here all the time have gone quiet. I miss their voices.
I'm still here for the gems. People and posts. But the ratio of nasty to worthwhile, from my perspective, has clearly shifted over the years. But I don't own this place, it's not built for me. The vocal will build what they want. We will all stay or go according to our personal interest.
One last thought: it's not even the juvenile pseudo-sexual t&A crap that bothers me. It's the lack of kindness of one person to another.
All of the "grow a pair", "harden the f$@k up" posturing... How sad. To justify the lack of ability to be simply decent to another human being when communicating "around the campfire".
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