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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 30, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
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RJ, wouldn't re-runs of "Survival" be more a propos?
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Michelle
Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
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Mar 30, 2014 - 02:03pm PT
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I've been thinking that when the time comes in a few years, the eastside is where it's at, for sure. Lee Vining is top on my list, then Bishop though :)
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Mar 30, 2014 - 02:07pm PT
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Ummmm....I can see my house in that pic. Serious.
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Bad Climber
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2014 - 02:29pm PT
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Yeah, ruppell, I get your drift. With so little inventory, things gotta be tight. We'll keep looking.
Thanks eKat, I'll keep that in mind. Sounds like a good technique.
Back to my essays...
BAd
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DonC
climber
CA
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Mar 30, 2014 - 03:53pm PT
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You've got time to play that game for sure but you may be better getting in to a livable place now and renting that for the next few years until you retire.
I'm also looking to move to the east side in a few years when I retire. If I buy now when prices are low, how hard would it be to rent out over the next few years until I retire?
We'll keep our primary residence in Redlands, but hope to spend most of Spring - Fall in either Bishop, Crowley or Lee Vining.
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Lurking Fear
Boulder climber
Bishop, California
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Mar 30, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
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We moved from the outskirts of Monterey to Bishop with an eight and a ten year old about 10 years ago. The only way my wife and I could make the decision is to know that the worse that could happen is that we would hate it and have to move again. Two of our closest friends lived in Bishop, so that helped us stay motivated and also helped us get acclimated once we moved. I just saw a lot of rentals in the paper yesterday morning. It's not a bad way to test the waters.
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Tahoe climber
climber
Davis these days
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Mar 31, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
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But all my life, since I fell in love with the mountains in my teens, I've wanted to live in a mountain town. Sometimes it's felt like a physical ache, you know?
I DO know. For sure. Go. You'll be happier.
TC
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Mar 31, 2014 - 04:09pm PT
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Move to Bish...You won't miss the hustle of southern cal...and if you do miss it , take a drive back to LA then you'll remember why you moved to Bishop...
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Mar 31, 2014 - 06:19pm PT
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Bishop is filling up with old climbers.
cant walk down the street without seeing a old face from camp 4
saving my $$$$$ now...
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Hypothetical question (actually not hypothetical for me):
If you could secure a professional job, in your field, in Bishop, but...
you would take a 20% paycut and have one less week of vacation per year (3 weeks paid instead of 4), and less overall responsibility (it would be a bit of a step down professionally) would you do it?
This thread made me start calling some old contacts, and scoping out opportunities. A couple of conversations over the last week have ended with clear indication that I will receive an offer if I choose to pursue it and jump through the hoops of formally applying.
Work situation at present is marginally tolerable, and likely to get worse before it gets better. I forsee about 3 more years of absolute clusterf*#k and excessive stress. But I am happy enough in the location, like my employees, like many things about the job itself and am paid well with great benefits. I also work with a group of kids in a sports program and don't really want to leave that/them behind. The grass is always greener, and in the past I've always jumped. Not so sure about this one.
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ruppell
climber
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elcap
What you just posted is most people in this towns dream. So many people here are working way below there pay grade or education level. I took over a 20% paycut to be here and wouldn't change it for anything. Seriously man if you enjoy climbing this is the place to be. At least start up the paperwork involved. That way at least the ball is rolling. You can always back out if you decide to but you'd be crazy not to consider it very seriously.
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dugillian
Trad climber
Vancouver
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Go there a couple times a year and it is a great place to visit.....Living there would be another matter......I know a couple of law enforcement types who live in Bishop and there are a lot of drug and alcohol problems in the teenage world of Bishop (Maybe that is true everywhere though?). Almost zero happening once 6PM rolls around and the fact that you will turn into a raisin in a few quick years from the wind, dust, and dry air is something to think about.
Good luck nevertheless.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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The Chief makes a good point..lots of freedom living on the eastside...it's not crowded so don't think about moving here...
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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ElcapINYOazz
you know that you have a place to stay if you want to test the waters
I think the adjustment would be difficult for you compared to where you are at
but once you found your niche you would be perfect here
After all INYO is in yo name
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Bad Climber
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2014 - 09:04am PT
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Wow, Elcap, it sounds like you're in a pretty good place. It's nice to have choices. I might give up a week to live in Bishop. Even if you only have a couple of hours after work, you can hit the 'Milks, ride around Round Valley, drop a fishing line in a stream. That week might not seem such a big deal in the long run. But behind death and divorce, moving is one of the biggest stresses in life. I fear that my wife is too attached here to want to move, and I get that. I think if it were up to me, at 55, I'd move into a mobile in Bishop. I'm less picky about my domiciles than my wife. As long as it's clean and dry, reasonably quiet, I'm good.
Re. building a home as I asked about in another thread, that's probably a little above our pay grade, although we could probably buy an acre out in the Mesa area and put a mobile on it.
Ah, well, it's good to have dreams. My wife's happiness is top of the list, so I'll have to take her lead on this. I've heard it said that it's not good for a man to get everything he wants, for acquisition unchecked doth have debasing influence. Still, I wouldn't mind being debased by Bishop!
BAd
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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of all the barrooms that i've adorned,
bishop has the best barroom girls,
that planted coarse-lipped kisses on
my cheeks and draped tired arms
over my sturdy shoulders,
as we drug wearing feet across
old-board floors to the tune
of dusty guitar strings.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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I don't worry about adjustment to the area. I've spent a month to six weeks there at a time in the past, and have lived in remote or small towns before (Fairbanks, Joshua Tree, Bicknell Utah - pop 600, among others).
SoCal is ok, and I mostly enjoy the Riverside area for access to lots of places that give me year round climbing, but the biggest thing I miss is my fly fishing. No f'in water down here. Well, that's not true, there is lake Perris and Lake Diapers (elsinore) not exactly the river/stream based trout fishing I want.
You're probably right, might as well get the ball rolling and make the decision when the time comes. Worst case scenario it might give me leverage to bargain in my current job and correct some of the things that are making me mental. I think I'll sit down tonight and crunch the numbers for real, rather than back of the envelope style.
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Bob Harrington
climber
Bishop, California
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The big challenge for people wanting to hang in Bishop is first, making a living, and second, affording a house. Badclimber, it sounds like you'll be retired, and El Cap would move here with a job, so you both seem to have the main obstacles under control. I love Bishop -- small but not too small. I live in town which makes walking or biking to friends, open space, shopping, restaurants, etc easy and I prefer it to living out of town and having to drive everywhere, but there are also great beautiful opportunities out of town if you want a more rural home setting. Bishop has got a more diverse community than most rural towns its size, and you can find about any cohort you want to fit into -- lots of climbers, bikers, churches, horse people, musicians,... course I'm a good old boy so it looks easy to me.
Elcap, I can't answer whether you should take a pay/bene cut to move here. Sounds like you have lots going for you in the situation you are in, so it really depends on if the proximity to climbing and open space is more important to you than the things you have going for you in your current location. Drop me a line if you feel like it -- I might know something about the specific opportunity you are looking at.
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MisterE
climber
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Apr 25, 2014 - 04:04pm PT
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Bump.
Just quit my job as a corporate pawn,
and leaving Monday for the move to Bishop.
Almost a year in the planning, if all goes well Skip will follow in 2 months.
If all doesn't go well, I have a two-month vacation in Bishop!
There is no down-side from here.
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