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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 8, 2017 - 08:14am PT
My Grandmother called it "typical June weather".

It could be 110* - or hailing - it's typical June weather.

Rained good here in Petaluma overnight.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 8, 2017 - 10:19am PT
Hey when do the avocados come ripe?

DMT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 8, 2017 - 04:03pm PT
July and August is when we normally see the Lamb Hass (my principal crop). My neighbor was picking his Hass crop when I left town last week. Normally those come in around the middle or end of winter, like around the Super Bowl.

We had a very hot June last year that pretty much ruined the season for Lamb Hass. Temps are seasonal - for now - so it looks like we might be back on track, once the Hass trees figure it out.

No more Petaluma weather reports from me. I'm at the Point Arena Lighthouse tonight. High winds and clouds here. Looks like it rained last night.

http://www.northcoastaviation.com/pt_arena/point_arena_west_full.htm
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 8, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
Thanks. Yes we got rain. Have fun at the lighthouse! I can close my eyes and see it, was there just a few months ago.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 16, 2017 - 06:43am PT
Headed north of 100 dergrees here today. 107 by Sunday. Swelter!

Sure is nice to see the reservoirs all filt up and lots of snow melt to go. Spillways will be quite active this weekend.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 16, 2017 - 06:45am PT
This is not good
Why years of waiting may be over on Delta tunnels

Love it or hate it, the Delta tunnels project is reaching a decision point.

The state’s most powerful water agencies have set a September goal to decide whether they’re going pay for the biggest and most controversial water project California has undertaken since the 1960s: overhauling the plumbing system that pumps billions of gallons of water through the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta to the Bay Area, Southern California and one of the nation’s most productive farm belts.

After more than a decade and nearly a quarter billion dollars of study and planning, the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California and other agencies will vote in September on whether to pay for Gov. Jerry Brown’s $15.5 billion plan for re-engineering the fragile estuary on Sacramento’s doorstep.

“Now we’re within 90 days of actually making a decision on whether the project is going to go forward or not,” said ​Roger Patterson, assistant general manager at Metropolitan, the influential water wholesaler serving half of the state’s population from its headquarters in Los Angeles.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article155966534.html#emlnl=Morning_Newsletter#storylink=cpy

DMT
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jun 16, 2017 - 09:27am PT
I agree, DMT.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 16, 2017 - 02:47pm PT
Its north of 100 degrees here now with a stout and hot north wind blowing straight down the great valley's gizzard. Plus, summer is here now - we will top 100 degrees through at least next Thursday with several days pushing 110!

FAK!

DMT
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 16, 2017 - 02:50pm PT
Geez...the temperature here is 79 and I'm hiding in the shade.
John M

climber
Jun 16, 2017 - 07:05pm PT
We have an excessive heat warning until June 22.


...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM PDT /11 AM
MST/ SATURDAY TO 11 PM PDT /11 PM MST/ THURSDAY...



June 23 is predicted to be 117

guess that doesn't qualify as excessive here.


LOL..

today was 111. Not excessive either. heh heh
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 20, 2017 - 07:28am PT
90 degrees before 9 AM at the house yesterday, 100 by 11 AM, topped out at 107 in the shade some time around 4 PM. I fled to the bay area shortly there after. Its in the 60s here.... AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

DMT
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 20, 2017 - 07:57am PT
It's supposed to hit the low 80s in Seattle this weekend.

WHEN'S IT GOING TO END???

L.A. TV News has been bitching about *June Gloom* all month. Now, the same people are bitching about the heat.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Jun 20, 2017 - 08:09am PT
Of course, we're Californios and we love to bitch about paradise.

:)

DMT
G_Gnome

Trad climber
Cali
Jun 20, 2017 - 09:06am PT
I always love June Gloom but you always know that when it ends the first heat wave is gonna get you. Besides 100 in the SFV isn't that bad. It doesn't really suck until it gets over 105.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jun 20, 2017 - 09:12am PT
They get the same thing in Seattle - morning clouds turning to afternoon sunshine. Their TV Weatherman doesn't call it June Gloom. He says it's nature's air conditioner.

On L.A. TV, it's "when is this June Gloom going to end?" FIRE SEASON! That's when. You want that? Nobody ever died of June Gloom, unless they were pushed to suicide by popular media too stupid to count their goddamn blessings.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 7, 2017 - 09:02pm PT
Download full report at:

https://law.ucla.edu/centers/environmental-law/emmett-institute-on-climate-change-and-the-environment/publications/surface-water-storage/


While there has been a great deal of research and debate over the environmental impacts and cost effectiveness of surface water storage projects, there has been little consideration of the more fundamental question of their practical feasibility—in particular, the time required from project initiation to completion. This is critically important, for it will determine when and if these projects actually make a difference to water users. This report fills that gap, detailing the time commitment associated with designing, analyzing, and implementing recent major surface water storage projects.

Our key finding is that most major surface water storage projects seriously considered since 2000 have not been completed and may never be.

Among the eight projects evaluated in California since 2000, only two have been completed. Both of those expanded already existing storage facilities and still required about twelve years for permitting, approvals, and planning, followed by about two years for project construction. Including the other CALFED projects still under consideration, recent major surface storage projects have required almost fifteen years (and counting) for the permitting and analysis phase. No new major surface storage facility has been constructed in the state during this timeframe, despite millions spent on feasibility studies and environmental documentation.

These long project timelines reflect the multiple assessments and permitting requirements necessary to ensure the feasibility, safety, and financial viability of the storage facilities. Many different laws and political/financial concerns contribute to the long timelines, meaning that there is no silver bullet for shortening schedules. And it would be inadvisable for other reasons to remove any of these requirements.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jul 8, 2017 - 05:53am PT
Looks like the permitting/studying industry is extremely lucrative. We're GREAT at producing those--and not much else. Good grief!

BAd
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 13, 2017 - 09:41pm PT
https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/getting-bottom-l-s-future-water-supply/?utm_source=UCLA+Institute+of+the+Environment+and+Sustainability&utm_campaign=77837d97da-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_07_13&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_01b64019e5-77837d97da-231153301&mc_cid=77837d97da&mc_eid=903582cf86

**
Getting to the bottom of L.A.’s future water supply**
UCLA researchers created a comprehensive model to find out how L.A. County can reduce its reliance on imported water.
Carbo

Trad climber
Too far south
Jul 14, 2017 - 02:42pm PT
They should get used to using less water if Owens valley gets their way

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-owens-valley-eminent-domain-20170712-story.html
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 14, 2017 - 05:07pm PT
This would be the death of Owens Valley.

They get vast amounts of support from LA. The shortage of water has been the primary retardant on massive scale development on the Eastside.

When the rents double and triple, where are the current residents going to live?
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