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5.samadhi

climber

Oct 17, 2013 - 06:41pm PT

criminal!

The Larry

climber

Moab, UT

Oct 17, 2013 - 06:51pm PT

Haha! Squeal like a pig.

Brandon-

climber

The Granite State.

Oct 17, 2013 - 06:55pm PT

Busted.

PSP also PP

Trad climber

Berkeley

Oct 17, 2013 - 08:17pm PT

I find it hard to believe that someone actually did this. It's probably the rangers taking down an unsafe tree near a trail or something.

But; To chop down a 100,s of years old tree to establish a climb is disgusting. Who ever did it should be prosecuted, and if it took place in a park or wilderness they should be banned from the park.

clearly they were ignorant of what they did so I would suggest a 1000 hours of habitat restoration projects as punishment for the fools, who ever they are.

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Oct 17, 2013 - 08:34pm PT

"...chop down a 100,s of years old tree to establish a climb..."

The way I read it, they cut down the tree because it was in the way of their photographs.

For some people, if you can't get that killer shot, there's no point of doing the climb. We have a name for these people.

MisterE

climber

Oct 17, 2013 - 08:45pm PT

OK, a bit more information:

Ethan Pringle posted this picture on his FB page

Someone asked: "Is that the tree you cut down?"

His answer is still up on the post "Of course not."

but the question is gone.

Hmmm...

RyanD

climber

Squamish

Oct 17, 2013 - 08:48pm PT

That's a pretty fukkin cool tree.

HighTraverse

Trad climber

Bay Area

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:39pm PT

WTF?
Whoever it was cut down the tree ought to be hung up by the thumbs for a week. Preferably by cams in that crack.

By the size of it, that was a Very Old Tree. Where did this travesty take place?

And.......fergawd's sake, the "before" photo is much more interesting BECAUSE of the tree.

What stoopid bastids.....whomever they were.

mechrist

Gym climber

South of Heaven

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:44pm PT

Speaking of lame

http://deadspin.com/jackasses-topple-200-million-year-old-rock-formation-1447403778

donini

Trad climber

Ouray, Colorado

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:46pm PT

Climbing has changed, as it should....everything changes. The environmental element has less sway, athleticisim and Red Bull type promotion prevail. Just the way it is....i can embrace change (some of it) and have some nostalgia for what was.....but who cares?

bergbryce

Mountain climber

California

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:47pm PT

that tree provides half the quality of the shot. where did these photo geniuses learn wilderness photography??

Largo

Sport climber

The Big Wide Open Face

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:50pm PT

Did he really cut down THAT tree? I am suspicious that anyone would ever admit that. Surly this guy is being set up.

JL

NinjaChimp

climber

someplace in-between

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:54pm PT

No geniuses, "THAT" tree is still there. Please read the preceding posts before vomiting on your keyboard.

klk

Trad climber

cali

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:55pm PT

Someone asked: "Is that the tree you cut down?"

His answer is still up on the post "Of course not."

the sawed piece in the other photo would be at best a big branch off that big tree. one possibility is that it was a smaller one in the area.

we still need a lot more context.

and folks need to read the captions.

Kalimon

Social climber

Ridgway, CO

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:57pm PT

Whatever has happened, Joe Kinder is such a poseur as it is . . . a little fluff boy. Peuf.

mechrist

Gym climber

South of Heaven

Oct 17, 2013 - 09:58pm PT

Having read Ethan's post about Ivan's chipping, Ethan doesn't seem too concerned about even trying to preserve the natural state of things while pursuing sick rad new proj's.

One thing I’d like to talk about really quickly is the whole Ivan Greene chipping scandal. I know nobody likes a chipper. If it’s true that Ivan chipped a local NY climbers dream proj right after he finally unlocked the sequence after a decade of tries, that is totally lame. BUT, I don’t know the whole story, and probably very few people do. Chipping has been going on for decades. It’s a huge part of our sports history, and even though everyone seems all enlightened now, people still do it, and chances are people will keep doing it somewhere as long as the sport is going on. Blah Blah Blah. Does everyone who is crucifying Ivan online right now know that some of the most famous and iconic climbs in the world are chipped, glued or otherwise manufactured in some way? Do people know that lots of other athletes in our sport, some of them under the radar, some of them higher profile than Ivan, have made holds and gotten away with it? It’s unclear to me what he’s actually doing in the video… at first it looks like he’s digging out a hold, but then it looks like he decides to just rip it off. From the pictures at the end of the video it appears that he dug out a few of the holds on the wall. Well yeah, it’s definitely bad, and now Ivan is taking the brunt of the climbing community’s collective angst, and people are acting like he just killed an innocent child or something. What am I trying to say here? Well, **I guess what I’m trying to say is, lets go easy on the guy. He f*#ked up, he got caught, maybe NY’s first V15 got ruined… but life goes on… although when I think about it that way, maybe I wouldn’t say all this if it was my project! Ha, I dunno! I might be really pissed if it was an amazing line!**