Yosemite will be Closed for the Gov shut down!

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Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
What I said is I don't know the exact reason (though I am sure my speculation is pretty close to the mark) they are doing it NOW. Our FT benefits already meet the ACA standards. I do know the changes to the FT/PT workforce WERE because of the ACA.

Plus, why does it matter when? Changes to the FT/PT ratio in businesses are happening because of the ACA.

Read the posts without trying to fit them to a political angle. I am not making a judgement about the ACA.

EDIT: Norton is correct, there has been a movement to more and more PT help for quite a while (even before Bush) but I have seen a big change on the monitoring of it (again, in my circumstance) since the ACA.
Ottawa Doug

Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:34pm PT
Quick, get on a wall with tons of food and water. At least you won't hear the sirens at night and see the traffic coming in from Wawona at all hours of the night.

Caio,
Doug
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
no Ronny,

stating a fact that Bush was President when the country went into recession is not "blame"

it is a statement of fact, or "truth"

no doubt you do not understand the difference
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:40pm PT
I think the real ACA question is: if there are 47 Werner clones, do they all fall under his one plan or do they each need to get there own?
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:46pm PT
Answer: It isn't.


whatever
harryhotdog

Social climber
north vancouver, B.C.
Sep 28, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
In 1990 we came down from the RNW of Half Dome to an empty valley in a shut down. Started driving out the valley and noticed there wasn't a single party on the Nose. Realizing we would never get a chance like this again we abandoned our responsibilities back home and had the nose all to ourselves.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Sep 28, 2013 - 11:00pm PT
Harry - was that during the fires? I was "trapped" in the Valley with a bunch of other Curry employees. It was awesome. Did Mr. Natural the first time that week.

Folks were plenty pissed when NPS enforced prohibition.

If you had a sixer you could make some cash :)
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Sep 28, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
At long last , Werner in total internal control of YNP:

Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Sep 28, 2013 - 11:42pm PT
Republican extortion tactics using the debt ceiling is not principled; it is irresponsible grandstanding that plays to a portion of the public that doesn't understand that raising the debt ceiling is not a move to incur more debt, but is for the purpose of paying existing debt. Regardless of the need to get our fiscal house in order, the US needs to honor existing debts. To dishonor, or default on our debts, is certainly not good governance and is not a principled position. The 2011 debt crisis cost the US approximately 1.3 billion in extra interest payments in 2011 alone, according to the GAO. The increase in debt service costs arose from increased interest rates on US debt because the US credit rating was lowered for the first time in our history.

I am a libertarian by nature, but reason should be the foundation of a libertarians' position. Not honoring our existing debt is irrational and irresponsible. Obama is being he adult in the room by making a stand on ending this form of mismanagement by crisis.

Got a ten day trip to the Valley coming up on the middle of this next month.....I hope.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Sep 29, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
It seems it's possible for a minority party to stop practically any legislation if they choose to obstruct. That defeats democracy and defeats the ability of government to implement policies for the good of all

and it swings both ways. If this becomes the norm, if by some change the GOP gains power, why wouldn't the DEM just stop everything they try to do?

Place nice in the sandbox idiots

Peace

karl
allanc

climber
Oct 1, 2013 - 01:46pm PT
So does anyone know what the shutdown means for those of
us lucky few with residential privileges (Yosemite West)?

I assume I'll be able to drive in.


thanks
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Oct 1, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
Yes you (residents and renters)are allowed in.
allanc

climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 05:13pm PT
Does this mean they're going to be ticketing cars parked
in all the parking lots?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 2, 2013 - 05:41pm PT
"...if by some change the GOP gains power, why wouldn't the DEM just stop everything they try to do?"

That's the usual turnabout perspective on this political dynamic, but the reality is that this works for the Repugs because they have the ability to line up in goose-step formation, while getting the Dems lined up is usually like herding cats. If Dems could get their constituents lined up the same way, this country would be far further down the progressive road.
CF

climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 05:48pm PT
The Yosemite National Park Shutdown is now in day 2. They have shut off Yosemite Valley to all visitors, you will be diverted at El Capitan Crossover. All roads through Yosemite, Hwy 120/140/41/Tioga Pass are open as you can drive through the park. Rangers are manning the gates and they are not charging to drive through. Glacier Point road is closed.

They have closed off more turnouts with cones and signs and no one is supposed to stop, just drive through. The closed turnouts I saw had visitors going around the cones and stopping to enjoy the views. Wonder why folks cant stop in turnouts to enjoy the views and what will a ranger do if he sees a car stopped?
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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 2, 2013 - 05:54pm PT

this guy shut the govt down seven times in eight years.

Dems weren't complaining then.
briham89

Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
Oct 2, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
hmmmmm, since they are making you exit at the el cap turn off, what is stopping us from parking our cars and jumping on el cap?????
Alexey

climber
San Jose, CA
Oct 2, 2013 - 06:21pm PT
CF, thanks for the info.
Can you just walk into park via the entrance gates and climb there?
Are they closed parking lots between El Portal and the gates?
allanc

climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 06:26pm PT
Looks like a cris-tunity. or is that dang-tunity.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_word_for_%22crisis%22
WBraun

climber
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:12pm PT
Can you just walk into park via the entrance gates and climb there?

It's closed.

What part of closed do you guys not understand?

If someone gets hurt then you call us for participating in a closure area?

You will will be completely hosed and the fines exorbitant.

No one one likes or wants this total fubar here but we have to live with it.

Resources are at rock bottom minimum to deal with anything.

That's why it's closed .......

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