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beaner
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Maine
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pretty much the only TV show I watch. I caught all but the last season (season 5 part 2 / season 6) on Netflix. I'm watching the last 8 as they air, which forces me to think about what will happen next for a week rather than just move straight on to the next episode.
I kept waiting for Hank's head to explode while he was on the phone with Marie. I think everyone expected him to die, the writers certainly tried hard to make it obvious something bad was going to happen to him -- which now makes me think he might somehow make it out alive (but I don't really see how at this point -- Hank and Gomez are seriously out gunned).
The whole Lydia/Aryan uncle subplot had me thinking that they were going to be on the receiving end of Walt's machine gun shown in the flash forwards. Either to rescue someone or revenge for killing someone (Hank, Skyler, kids, even Jesse) -- kind of trying to undo or make up for the damage he caused. Not sure about the ricin -- maybe for himself after he takes care of whatever he needs the big gun for.
This might be the last TV series I make any kind of effort to watch. I could probably be content to never watch TV again after finishing up such a great series. All my other TV watching consists of 10-15 minutes of channel surfing before I go to sleep. I'm not even sure I get my monies worth out of the $8 I spend on Netflix now that I'm not streaming Breaking Bad anymore.
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Travis Haussener
Trad climber
Salt Lake City
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I am really glad they brought the Nazi thing together with Walt. I honestly thought they were showing that Todd stuff in episodes 3 and 4 because they were thinking "spin off".
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Sep 13, 2013 - 09:56am PT
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Hate that show. I gave it a try. But it is pretty much just Weeds without the eye candy... where anything that can go wrong will but they still miraculously make squeeze out of it. Same formula, only this time it is dudes doing illegal stuff in their underwear... ENJOY.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Sep 16, 2013 - 10:42am PT
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Damm, sad episode last night . Walt loses it all ...
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John Butler
Social climber
SLC, Utah
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Sep 16, 2013 - 01:45pm PT
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If I was Walt I'd move to Camp Curry... or Lander
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Sep 16, 2013 - 07:01pm PT
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I thought Walt, to outrage the DEA, was going to say that Hank (who he falsely named as a partner in his CD confession) had taken off with all
of the cash to live in New-Identity-Land.
Changing Hank in the authorities minds from MIA martyr to a traitor.
Its possible the DEA will find a copy of Walt's CD confession next episode
anyway at either of the houses and come to that conclusion.
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briham89
Big Wall climber
san jose, ca
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Sep 16, 2013 - 07:05pm PT
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Hank and Gomie are dead. Nazi's will kidnap Jessie and force him to cook and possibly also Walt's family to force him to cook. Walt get's the m60 to save Jessie from the Nazi's thus proving he really did care.
But that's just so obvious it can't be...
That's starting to look possible....
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Cole
Trad climber
los angeles
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Sep 16, 2013 - 09:58pm PT
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Hank and Gomie are dead. Nazi's will kidnap Jessie and force him to cook and possibly also Walt's family to force him to cook. Walt get's the m60 to save Jessie from the Nazi's thus proving he really did care.
But that's just so obvious it can't be...
That's starting to look possible....
I just watched the last episode and, yes, I was actually pretty surprised at how it went down. But now I'm wondering if he doesn't try to save Jesse but instead wants to destroy him completely...
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Sep 16, 2013 - 10:31pm PT
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The ultimate irony would be that Walt loses his family and ends up saving Jesse.
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Degaine
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Sep 17, 2013 - 05:05am PT
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mechrist wrote:
Hate that show. I gave it a try. But it is pretty much just Weeds without the eye candy... where anything that can go wrong will but they still miraculously make squeeze out of it. Same formula, only this time it is dudes doing illegal stuff in their underwear... ENJOY.
I don't hate the show (and haven't seen Weeds), but it definitely jumped the shark a while ago. Too many far-fetched incidents and survivals even for fiction. I thought the premise was good at the start so stuck with the show (for better or worse).
Only two episodes left!
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Cole
Trad climber
los angeles
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Sep 23, 2013 - 04:40am PT
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Jumped the shark awhile ago, really?? The show just won an Emmy for best drama so I think it's safe to say that your opinion is in the minority on that one.
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Sep 23, 2013 - 10:32am PT
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Damm , it's on ! Walt is on the move ...
... where does he get the machine gun ?
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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Sep 23, 2013 - 10:57am PT
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I never expected Gretchen and Eliot to come back into the show. Maybe that's who the ricin is for? Or maybe it was just a motivator to get Walt moving...
Hands down the best show on TV.
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Cole
Trad climber
los angeles
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Sep 24, 2013 - 12:50am PT
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That's pretty funny Locker.
I think the Ricin is for Gretchen and what's his name...or it could be for Walt after turning himself in...
Main question in my mind is now what will happen when Jessie and Walt face off. Will they try to kill each other or will they have a "broment" and Walt gives Jesse the location of his cabin with the money so that he can live happily ever after?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Sep 24, 2013 - 01:13am PT
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It is the only show I watch other than the news. Just started watching this season, I like it. I think part of the appeal is the fact that many people day dream about doing something illegal and lucrative. Hit pay dirt and move on. In hindsight I might have been spared by the fact that chemistry required too much effort for a 20 year old single guy.
Walt hauling that barrel of cash around is so hilarious.
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ec
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ca
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Sep 29, 2013 - 11:13am PT
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Source URL: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/vince-gilligan-talks-breaking-bad-638663
'Breaking Bad': Looking Back at a Revealing Interview With Creator Vince Gilligan
7:07 AM PDT 9/29/2013 by Tim Goodman
Listen to the podcast where the showrunner talks to THR's chief television critic about the exact moment Walt became "irredeemable," plenty of behind the scenes stories and the kind of ending that might happen tonight (no spoilers).
Breaking Bad, one of the most acclaimed series of all time and one of my favorite series ever, had just finished its first eight episodes of the final season. Only eight remained. But I was looking for a certain trifecta.
Over the course of a couple of years in San Francisco, I had helped the Arts & Ideas lecture series at the Jewish Community Center bring in Bay Area residents to talk about television and listen to important people who made it. I had already interviewed two of the three that I was most interested in – David Simon, [5]creator of The Wire and Treme. And Matthew Weiner (podcast not available), creator of Mad Men. Gilligan was the third [6]. When he agreed, that was my hoped-for trifecta of television’s best series creators.
I had the pleasure of interviewing Gilligan a couple of years earlier for a podcast [8] at the San Francisco Chronicle, before the start of season three. But this mid-season five on stage interview (and podcast) [6] was more important because more people had finally come around to the dark but brilliant series and it was in the home stretch of having one of the best start-to-finish runs of any show in the history of television.
As we all know, that ends tonight with the series finale of Breaking Bad. On Friday night, I was having a little fun riffing on Twitter about the ending – because there can never be enough Breaking Bad chatter, right? Most of the stuff I either wanted to happen or predicted would happen have come true. Except for one nagging part. I just really believe that Walter Jr. will die. In fact, must die. A sins of the father thing that I’ve been predicting for a couple of seasons now.
I suggested that I could see an ending where both Walter Jr. and Skyler die, leaving baby Holly in the hands of Marie to care for. And I joked, when I interviewed Gilligan live on stage in San Francisco, that just because he’s one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet in the entertainment business, I still wouldn’t put it past him and his writers to kill off Holly. He laughed. (Of course, I don’t believe in that theory anymore because Gilligan’s long-time girlfriend is named Holly and I just don’t see that happening at all). But that was a fun night. I told Gilligan that my hope was that Walt lives. Gilligan, with a poker face: “Hmmmm. That’s interesting.”
Not only was it a fun, revealing and hopefully insightful night with Gilligan, it was also the night that I became absolutely convinced that Jesse wouldn’t die. I’d thought that for a while – that Jesse would live -- but listening to and parsing Gilligan’s words, I firmed up my belief. (And now that I’ve seen everything but Sunday’s finale, I’ve never felt more strongly about it. Jesse’s suffered enough. Dramatically, killing off Jesse is reductive. Killing Skyler and/or Walter Jr. – much more shocking and unexpected).
And while I’m less sure of another theory – that Walt will take the ricin himself, which I’ve been thinking for a bit – I’ll stick with it.
But the point is, we had a grand old time on Twitter swapping theories and I tweeted out a bunch of quotes from what Gilligan said that night. Like these:
“Come hell or high water, I did NOT want that happening with this show.” – Gilligan on fans saying The X-Files (where he was a writer) stayed on the air too long (he didn’t think so, but learned a valuable internet lesson in that people are savvy about when a show has run out of ideas.).
We both agreed that we liked the finale to The Sopranos, but Gilligan reiterated a big difference between him and Sopranos creator David Chase: “I’m more of a closure guy.” Listen for his reasons why – it’s an interesting take on the act of storytelling.
But that didn’t stop Gilligan from joking about his own idea for an ending: “We’re going to find a different Journey song.”
Two intriguing things that I forgot about that interview (conducted on Nov. 2, 2012), came to mind as I relistened: That, when pressed about going beyond the notion of “breaking bad,” I asked Gilligan when he thought Walt turned evil, But he said he preferred the term “irredeemable” because there’s a lot of baggage with evil. However, his pick for that exact moment was way different than mine (I said when Walt left Jane to die, choking on her own vomit). But he knew the exact moment (and thus episode and season, so I tossed it out for a guessing game among @BastardMachine followers). Not many people got it right. (And, like a lot of things, you can find out the answer by listening).
The other revelation resulted in a face-palm, however, because of what Gilligan said (that got a lot of laughs and applause, but which I glossed over): “I really have my fingers crossed that after Breaking Bad ends, there’ll be a Saul Goodman show.”
Yeah, kinda wish I’d filed that one.
Anyway, tonight the whole thing ends. I can tell you this – listening to the podcast will be enjoyable and hopefully insightful and it won’t ruin anything you’re about to see. It’s a nice little table-setter before saying goodbye.
Email: Tim.Goodman@THR.com
Twitter: @BastardMachine
Links:
[1] http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/vince-gilligan-talks-breaking-bad-638663&media=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/thumbnail_570x321/2013/07/vince_gilligan_-_h_-_2013.jpg&description='Breaking Bad': Looking Back at a Revealing Interview With Creator Vince Gilligan
[2] http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bads-betsy-brandt-why-637552
[3] http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-finale-creator-cast-636660
[4] http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bads-vince-gilligans-detective-636593
[5] http://podcasts.jccsf.org/2011/12/david-simon/
[6] http://podcasts.jccsf.org/2012/11/vince-gilligan/
[7] http://hollywoodreporter.com/video/breaking-bad-5-years-awesome-636463
[8] http://tvtalkmachine.com/OLD/Interview-VinceGilligan-20100311.mp3
[9] http://hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-director-walts-suffering-634796
[10] mailto:Tim.Goodman@THR.com
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Sep 29, 2013 - 11:51am PT
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As Walt muses to junior while watching Scarface, "everyone dies at the end, it's great!"
He's gonna go out in a blaze of glory, on his own terms.
Will his family survive Walt's incoming war? I doubt it. Aryan's will attack his loved ones I bet.
It's going to be a good one.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Sep 29, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
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quite the phnom... this "breaking bad".
I am amazed at the folks I know that regard it as the "best show" and "really good tv".
A fire chief on set last night said he watched it right before he went to bed then 3 more episodes in the morning. My other friend can't wait to find out what going on and talks about it way too much.
Most of the crew on a tv show I'm working on will talk about it for 20 minutes at a time.
I have no idea, we haven't had a tv in the house since '05.
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Sep 29, 2013 - 08:09pm PT
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Ya Riley, if you go back and watch all the episodes on netflix or something, you'll understand why we are all so hooked. You missed some amazingly well done parts of the series.
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