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dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Climb2ski nails it.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142#ixzz2ccj1pdnh

He has spoken on this regularly for decades.

You think he has the power to control all of media? Perhaps your problem is not with Sharpton and more with what the media reports on.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
Fine, write a letter to sharpton. Sheesh!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
OK.. you make the point that he appears to consider racially motivated murder a more serious issue worthy of what time he gets in front of a national audience than the issue of black on black violence.

OK I guess that's his opinion. (maybe)I suppose one can differ with that opinion. but it dosn't hit me as an outrageous one. Whether I agree with it or not.

He certainly has not ignored the issue of black on black inner city violence.
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
You guys are going to love this, seriously, pay attention...

How about the incident that occurred last March when a white mother witnessed a black teen run up then shoot and kill her toddler that was in the carriage she was pushing.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/18/20077208-georgia-man-faces-trial-in-killing-of-baby-in-stroller?lite

http://bossip.com/810931/people-aint-isht-white-mom-sherry-west-lied-about-black-boys-allegedly-killing-infant-son-43081/

Brunswick, Ga. resident Sherry West, 42, mother of baby Antonio Santiago slain on March 14, 2013, told CNN’s Piers Morgan she wants the alleged teen killers to die during an on-camera interview. “A life for a life,” she said.

De’Marquis Elkins, 17, and Dominique Lang, 15, were arrested and charged with murdering the 13-month-old. Their trial was set for this August but their public defender, Jonathan Lockwood, uncovered some shocking evidence.

She lied! The gunshot residue was found on both West and baby Antonio’s father, Louis, who was initially reported no where near the crime scene.

Back in March, West told police that while on her way home from the post office two black boys attempted to rob her. When she told them that she didn’t have any money, they shot baby Antonio in the face, then shot her in the leg before running away.

The state forensic report says, “This supports the possibility that [Louis Santiago] discharged a firearm, was in close proximity to a firearm upon discharge, or came into contact with an item whose surface bears GSR [gunshot residue].”


Remember, accused Elkins’ mother Karimah Aisha Elkins, 36, and aunt Katrina Latrelle Elkins, 33, were arrested and charged with making false statements. A gun was found but authorities never indicated it was a murder weapon.

Also, West’s daughter Ashley Glassey, 21, said she didn’t want to wrongly accuse her mother but had her doubts because her stories were conflicting and she may have committed the murder for insurance money.

Police have not named Sherry West or Louis Santiago suspects in their son’s murder; however, Santiago is in jail for aggravated stalking of West.

“He went nuts … he was throwing things through the window and terrorizing me, saying that I killed my baby and it should have been me,” West tells CBS.


Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
Chief, don’t worry about people like Al Sharpton. If I did I would probably have a stroke by now. People are ignorant.
And regarding T. Martin’s case…it is unbelievable people still think it wasn’t his own fault he got killed. I mean he attacked Zimmerman (uniform-wearing security in that neighborhood), was on top of him beating his face in. Unfortunate, yes. But very logical. Won’t argue about this stupid topic. I think I got tired after 5 minutes of that on facebook…my view of this point is strengthened judges who ruled the case in Zimmerman’s favor after checking evidence and facts about the case.

Anyway, Chief can you ever start a thread about routes only locals know about or something! Would be stoked to talk about climbing instead of this garbage!

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:25pm PT


http://www.theonion.com/articles/seemingly-mentally-ill-internet-commenter-presumab,33570/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
A couple days ago at a gun store I had another customer pump a twelve gauge and point it right at me.

I called him a stupid as#@&%e loudly in front of everyone and when he tried to assure me it wasn't loaded I caught his Australian accent.

I asked him if he was even an American citizen, and when he said no the guy behind the counter took the gun and ran him out of the store.

I should have just grabbed it out of his hands and altered his face with it. I bet the counter guy wouldn't have minded a bit of gore on the muzzle.

My point?


Australia spawns its share of stupid fools too. Hell, they're the children of convicts.


You want to outcry about something?
See Werner.
Big Breasted Woman

Trad climber
The Brown Crack
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
This is such total friggin' BS! Fry the bastards! They aren't human so the heck with wasting the time and money on a trial! This country has gone down the sh*tter!!!
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
Damn. What an ignorant thread. Too stupid for a rebuttal. Carry on.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
The media immediately started to play up the "bored" angle in order to diffuse any racial implications from this tragic incident-exactly opposite of their racial hyping during the Martin/Zimmerman incident.
When asked to explain why they murdered the Australian kid, the killers said they were " bored" . Everyone is automatically invited to take the word of murderers at face value. Meanwhile,you could just hear the vast legions of establishment news editors and writers collectively sigh a "Thank You" to the killers for instantly providing a ready-made narrative.

Like hack magicians the media want the American people to shift their attention to the right hand while the left hand performs the trick, be it a hype in one instance or a cover-up in another.

Most of the American people are too distracted, too stupid, or too brainwashed to know they are being played by an elite media and political establishment working in tandem as a tag team.

Heyzeus

climber
Hollywood,Ca
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
The same issue that occurred in the Trayvon Martin incident. But in the reverse.

Wouldn't the case then be that the "neighborhood watch" guy is black and shoots and kills a white kid? And the black guy walks? Think that's very likely?
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

Yet, there are those who would do away with "stop and frisk". They say it unfairly profiles people of color. Looks like the bullets are profiling them as well.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
Some days you just can't swing a dead cat without hitting an idiot.


Believe me.

I've tried!
John M

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Chief, Can you point to one case where a black person stalked a white person, got in a fight with that person and killed them, and was let go because the law said he had a right to defend himself? The law is poorly written. Sure Al Sharpton picked up on it because it involved a black person dying. But the country's outrage was over the poorly written law.

So show me a case where a black person got away with something like murder because of a poorly written law, and Al Sharpton did nothing, and then you might have a case against him.

There is nothing to protest in the case you pointed to. In this case There is no poorly written law that led to a white or black person dying and someone getting off. So what the heck would he protest?

Al Sharpton has said that people should go to jail if they do something wrong, Even black people. What he protests is the inordinate number of blacks who are jailed while white people get lower sentences.
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
I think the old chef is actually loosing his marbles the older he gets..
WBraun

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
I think the old chef is actually loosing his marbles the older he gets..


Nope .....

You people are just plain stupid to have knee jerk reactions to everything he says.

Also he gives you reasons to think and come up with rebuttals.

Without people like him this place would be full of stupid people back slapping each other agreeing to to their own stupidity all day.

This place is full of stupid people who only agree to what they can only see inside the box .......
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
I'm bored

Lets do a driveby......



.....TROLL!!!!
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
Chief said:
"The same issue that occurred in the Trayvon Martin incident. "

Not even close to the same issue. Zimmerman was defending himself, said the neighbor who witnessed the fight, and the jury agreed. This was just total baloney.





I thought Ben Stein had a great blurb on this tragedy: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/08/21/the-oklahoma-story

His take on it:
"Ben Stein's Diary


By Ben Stein on 8.21.13 @ 6:16AM

No, Piers, it’s not about guns.

Tuesday
So, this will be very short. Not at all sweet.

A couple of days ago, a white college baseball star from Australia, Christopher Lane, was running for exercise along a rural road in Oklahoma, my wife’s home state. He was attending college there. As he passed by three black teenagers, they decided it would be fun to kill him. They drove up behind him, shot him three times and he was dead.

They apparently laughed about it and one of them posted an online comment about their exploit — shooting an unarmed man in the back and killing him — and how cool that was.

They were quickly arrested and two are now charged with murder, the third as an accessory to murder. They will be tried as adults but because their ages are 16, 17, and 18, they cannot get the death penalty in Oklahoma.

My Internet in box is burning up with furious e-mails about this horrible crime. It’s all over the cable news. I just saw Piers Morgan, the world’s most predictable person, interview several people about the murder.

The comments by Piers Morgan and his guests are — again, predictably — about how this is a story about too many guns in the USA. But, of course, as everyone who is not in the MSM knows, this is not about guns. It’s about race. It’s about the appalling level of gun violence perpetrated by black young men. The people who make the U.S. homicide rate the worst in the world are not hunters and target shooters in Idaho or Minnesota. They are totally confused, absolutely immoral black kids who have grown up with the complete absence of a sense of right and wrong.

This is a part of the breakdown of the black youth in America. It has zero to do with the Second Amendment. It is pitiful that the MSM is so cowardly that they refuse to tell the truth about gun death in the U.S.: it is a problem of race, overwhelmingly. No one dare say it, but it’s true.

Now, will Mr. Obama get on TV and say that Chris Lane could have been his son or anyone’s son, that the real race problem in this country is not racism against blacks, but an astounding epidemic of violence among blacks, especially black youth? Will the media superstars start talking about the sickening worship of violence in the rap culture? Will anyone ever tell the truth again? Or is the fear of even a hint of an accusation of racism going to make us keep our blinders on?

There are virtually no murders of blacks by whites (not none — just very few). There are thousands of murders of blacks by blacks each year, far more in one year than the Ku Klux Klan ever did. Will anyone ever tell the truth again? Yes, Pat Buchanan will. But anyone else?

And can a society which lies to itself about its most basic problems survive? This is a crisis. Absent parents. The gang control of thought. The scourge of drugs. These have created a catastrophe for the black community. That is an immense part of the youth of this nation. Occasionally the flood jumps its bounds, goes over the river banks, and kills a white person — and then it’s new — but we blame it on guns. Our media and our leaders just cannot tell the truth.

We really are doomed in so many ways it’s blood curdling. I think I’ll just stay here in North Idaho.
"


A lot of folks are saying that "these guys could be the Presidents sons". Point worth noting.

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