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Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:41am PT
Wheres Al Sharpton, his Civil Rights brigade and all them "Liberals" for this atrocity?

Are you implying Al Sharpton would protect any piece of sh#t murder as long as he/she is black? I don't get your point. Don't see how any sane person would protect these guys..
Jennie

Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:10pm PT
Mr. Sharpton's activism has little relevance to this tragedy...

Before pointing fingers at racial politics, the influence of rap culture etc...we need to ponder the social milieu in which both taboo and proscribed justice of a distinct nature are so lacking for the deliberate killing of an innocent...
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
Uhm what's to outcry about? They are in jail.

It's all over the news. Cause it's horrific and nobody says it isn't. I don't see a murder as worthy of international news generally.

Now if they had gotten let off .. Or if someone was defending their actions

just a big HUH? regarding the title of this thread.
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:14pm PT
Wouldn't be 'bored' if they knew college football was starting up.

[Click to View YouTube Video]



edit - front page of Australian news has the BASE accident but not this murder - interesting. http://www.news.com.au/
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
WHAT IS THERE TO PROTEST?

Lets have a protest against the jailing of murderous psychopaths?

Protest against MURDER? Cause society is too suportive of murdereres?

Protest against murderous psychopaths for same reason.

WTH are you thinking cheif?

All I see as far as anything to organize a group of people about in this incident would be.

Organize a memorial to the deceased.

Organize an appreciation event for the justice system.

Other than the actions of the murderers.. who else did anything wrong for which we should protest?
Seamstress

Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:20pm PT
There are many decent people appalled by this. It certainly puts us in a negative light in front of the world. So many of the bright and talented young people in the world are sent to the US for an education or for other experiences, and it is sad to see that turn to tragedy. We certainly feel a similar loss when one of our young epople travel abroad and are killed.

Life isn't fair, and we can't guarentee a perfectly safe environment. That is incompatablie with a free society.

I don't think it is fair to crticize all Americans for such a tragedy. That type of animosity leads to more violence.

The only constructive gesture I can offer is a very sincere expression of grief to this young man's family and an efficient trial for the perpetrators. Let's demonstrate the humane way to behave.

I won't listen to the excuses offered by others for this barberic behavior. There is something to be learned by understanding the contributing factors to their actions. We may not be able to or want to remove those factors. We can make those choices in time. Contributing factors does not absolve them of guilt or predestine them to do this.
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:22pm PT
Yeh, sorry chief sometime I get where you're coming from but, am a little loss here.
Maybe 'cuz I don't see only black and white...who knows?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
Of course having a black man in the whitehouse made racial tensions worse.

Its freaking the white supremacists and their sympathizers completely out of their minds.. everything they have been "warning" about is happening in front of their eyes.

And I love it. Let the racists freak out and expose themselves.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
The shooters went home after police questioning due to a ridiculous stand your ground law?


Thats it I'm gonna organize a massive protest against bored pyschopathic murderous teenagers.!!

You bring the beer Cheif!
Delhi Dog

climber
Good Question...
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Uh, never mind, this is one of those threads I see now.

Moving on...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/08/20/bored-teenage-murder-suspect-james-edwards-appears-to-be-a-crip/
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
I'm also organizing a protest against proper police work and incarceration of suspected murderous pychopathic teanagers..

just to cover all the possible reasons to protest this action.

I'm sure folks have so much pent up frustration about this issue!!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
The shooters were not claiming self defense.

The shooters were not attacked by the deceased.

The deceased was not on top of the shooters beating the shet of em.


I PROTEST!!!!

This victim clearly had it coming! He was a PUSSY! The perps should NOT be in jail!

seriously?

WHAT SHALL WE PROTEST CHEIF?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
You are aware that the suspects ARE in Jail arn't you?

Are you upset about that?

Has the system been to kind to the suspects? Is that the problem?

Is this incident not getting enough news attention?

what are you upset about?

What is Sharpton supposed to say?

Congratulations to the police department for catching the perps?

I'll call him up right now and suggest he do so in a public manner cause its such an important message for the whole world to hear.

Thanks police fopr doing your job.. and thanks racists for watching me thank them so I can show I'm not a hypocrit.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:42pm PT
WHAT IS THERE TO PROTEST?

The same issue that occurred in the Trayvon Martin incident. But in the reverse.

Perfect example of the hypocrisy that exists.

Had this been a White on Black incident, Al Sharpton and his croanies would be all over it.



HAHAHAHHAHAHAA

Did you just realize all this? I thought reverse racism was accepted long ago...
karodrinker

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:45pm PT
I hope you aren't really a chief of anything, because you seem like a complete moron. To not see the difference between Trayvon and this...wow.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:47pm PT
If sharpton was protesting the incarceration of the suspects you might have something to be upset about The Cheif. NO ONE is defending these guys except maybe a court appointed lawyer.

But WTH are you upset about?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:50pm PT
The difference is everyone agrees that these scum should be in Jail.. and they are.

SO nobody has anything to protest!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:51pm PT
Not true.


Al Sharpton has started a new movement to combat inner city violence.
http://blacklikemoi.com/2012/09/al-sharpton-starts-occupy-the-corner-to-combat-inner-city-violence/

mooser

Trad climber
seattle
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:52pm PT
Even our own prezidunt CANT handle a JOKE that was levied in the exact same manner as was done to GWB, a rodeo clown with his mask on. That was funny, but when it happens to OBAMA its RACIST!!!!!!!!!!

Ron, I don't know you other than a fellow climber on ST. My response is not an attack on you personally, but I feel the need to refer to your comment. Bush and Obama were most definitely not joked about in the same manner. There is a difference between making an effigy, a caricature, etc., of a person based on their relative competency/incompetency, political perspectives, etc., and making fun of someone along the lines of their ethnicity. For those who objected on-site to the rodeo clown, the other clown, and the announcer, it was clear to them (and honestly, I think to anyone that even saw the clip with any objectivity) that the Obama caricature was not being taunted for his job performance (though I'm sure some people felt strongly about that in the stands), but was being specifically mocked for his ethnicity.

I really don't understand how anyone can't honestly admit that there is a tremendous amount of racism in this country, and that Obama is quite often the object of it--irrespective of his job performance. It seems to split pretty starkly along party lines (although even many Republicans voiced their objection to the rodeo clown incident), that it begs the questions: Are Democrats just prone and antsy to find racism where it isn't (maybe some are. That's a possibility)? Are Republicans just deeply entrenched in the commitment to not admit that racism is real, that it happens, and that it happened in this case, too? If there is objection to the job that Obama is doing...great. Make an effigy to that effect. That's a joke that any president should reasonably expect. But this incident wasn't that, and I personally believe any reasonable person could see that.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Climb2ski nails it.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:55pm PT
"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/rev-al-sharpton-talk-violence-black-neighborhoods-article-1.292142#ixzz2ccj1pdnh

He has spoken on this regularly for decades.

You think he has the power to control all of media? Perhaps your problem is not with Sharpton and more with what the media reports on.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 12:57pm PT
Fine, write a letter to sharpton. Sheesh!
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
OK.. you make the point that he appears to consider racially motivated murder a more serious issue worthy of what time he gets in front of a national audience than the issue of black on black violence.

OK I guess that's his opinion. (maybe)I suppose one can differ with that opinion. but it dosn't hit me as an outrageous one. Whether I agree with it or not.

He certainly has not ignored the issue of black on black inner city violence.
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
You guys are going to love this, seriously, pay attention...

How about the incident that occurred last March when a white mother witnessed a black teen run up then shoot and kill her toddler that was in the carriage she was pushing.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/18/20077208-georgia-man-faces-trial-in-killing-of-baby-in-stroller?lite

http://bossip.com/810931/people-aint-isht-white-mom-sherry-west-lied-about-black-boys-allegedly-killing-infant-son-43081/

Brunswick, Ga. resident Sherry West, 42, mother of baby Antonio Santiago slain on March 14, 2013, told CNN’s Piers Morgan she wants the alleged teen killers to die during an on-camera interview. “A life for a life,” she said.

De’Marquis Elkins, 17, and Dominique Lang, 15, were arrested and charged with murdering the 13-month-old. Their trial was set for this August but their public defender, Jonathan Lockwood, uncovered some shocking evidence.

She lied! The gunshot residue was found on both West and baby Antonio’s father, Louis, who was initially reported no where near the crime scene.

Back in March, West told police that while on her way home from the post office two black boys attempted to rob her. When she told them that she didn’t have any money, they shot baby Antonio in the face, then shot her in the leg before running away.

The state forensic report says, “This supports the possibility that [Louis Santiago] discharged a firearm, was in close proximity to a firearm upon discharge, or came into contact with an item whose surface bears GSR [gunshot residue].”


Remember, accused Elkins’ mother Karimah Aisha Elkins, 36, and aunt Katrina Latrelle Elkins, 33, were arrested and charged with making false statements. A gun was found but authorities never indicated it was a murder weapon.

Also, West’s daughter Ashley Glassey, 21, said she didn’t want to wrongly accuse her mother but had her doubts because her stories were conflicting and she may have committed the murder for insurance money.

Police have not named Sherry West or Louis Santiago suspects in their son’s murder; however, Santiago is in jail for aggravated stalking of West.

“He went nuts … he was throwing things through the window and terrorizing me, saying that I killed my baby and it should have been me,” West tells CBS.


Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:06pm PT
Chief, don’t worry about people like Al Sharpton. If I did I would probably have a stroke by now. People are ignorant.
And regarding T. Martin’s case…it is unbelievable people still think it wasn’t his own fault he got killed. I mean he attacked Zimmerman (uniform-wearing security in that neighborhood), was on top of him beating his face in. Unfortunate, yes. But very logical. Won’t argue about this stupid topic. I think I got tired after 5 minutes of that on facebook…my view of this point is strengthened judges who ruled the case in Zimmerman’s favor after checking evidence and facts about the case.

Anyway, Chief can you ever start a thread about routes only locals know about or something! Would be stoked to talk about climbing instead of this garbage!

Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:25pm PT


http://www.theonion.com/articles/seemingly-mentally-ill-internet-commenter-presumab,33570/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:27pm PT
A couple days ago at a gun store I had another customer pump a twelve gauge and point it right at me.

I called him a stupid as#@&%e loudly in front of everyone and when he tried to assure me it wasn't loaded I caught his Australian accent.

I asked him if he was even an American citizen, and when he said no the guy behind the counter took the gun and ran him out of the store.

I should have just grabbed it out of his hands and altered his face with it. I bet the counter guy wouldn't have minded a bit of gore on the muzzle.

My point?


Australia spawns its share of stupid fools too. Hell, they're the children of convicts.


You want to outcry about something?
See Werner.
Big Breasted Woman

Trad climber
The Brown Crack
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:33pm PT
This is such total friggin' BS! Fry the bastards! They aren't human so the heck with wasting the time and money on a trial! This country has gone down the sh*tter!!!
The Larry

climber
Moab, UT
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
Damn. What an ignorant thread. Too stupid for a rebuttal. Carry on.
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
The media immediately started to play up the "bored" angle in order to diffuse any racial implications from this tragic incident-exactly opposite of their racial hyping during the Martin/Zimmerman incident.
When asked to explain why they murdered the Australian kid, the killers said they were " bored" . Everyone is automatically invited to take the word of murderers at face value. Meanwhile,you could just hear the vast legions of establishment news editors and writers collectively sigh a "Thank You" to the killers for instantly providing a ready-made narrative.

Like hack magicians the media want the American people to shift their attention to the right hand while the left hand performs the trick, be it a hype in one instance or a cover-up in another.

Most of the American people are too distracted, too stupid, or too brainwashed to know they are being played by an elite media and political establishment working in tandem as a tag team.

Heyzeus

climber
Hollywood,Ca
Aug 21, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
The same issue that occurred in the Trayvon Martin incident. But in the reverse.

Wouldn't the case then be that the "neighborhood watch" guy is black and shoots and kills a white kid? And the black guy walks? Think that's very likely?
John Duffield

Mountain climber
New York
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:06pm PT
"Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

Yet, there are those who would do away with "stop and frisk". They say it unfairly profiles people of color. Looks like the bullets are profiling them as well.

survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
Some days you just can't swing a dead cat without hitting an idiot.


Believe me.

I've tried!
John M

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Chief, Can you point to one case where a black person stalked a white person, got in a fight with that person and killed them, and was let go because the law said he had a right to defend himself? The law is poorly written. Sure Al Sharpton picked up on it because it involved a black person dying. But the country's outrage was over the poorly written law.

So show me a case where a black person got away with something like murder because of a poorly written law, and Al Sharpton did nothing, and then you might have a case against him.

There is nothing to protest in the case you pointed to. In this case There is no poorly written law that led to a white or black person dying and someone getting off. So what the heck would he protest?

Al Sharpton has said that people should go to jail if they do something wrong, Even black people. What he protests is the inordinate number of blacks who are jailed while white people get lower sentences.
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:40pm PT
I think the old chef is actually loosing his marbles the older he gets..
WBraun

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
I think the old chef is actually loosing his marbles the older he gets..


Nope .....

You people are just plain stupid to have knee jerk reactions to everything he says.

Also he gives you reasons to think and come up with rebuttals.

Without people like him this place would be full of stupid people back slapping each other agreeing to to their own stupidity all day.

This place is full of stupid people who only agree to what they can only see inside the box .......
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:22pm PT
I'm bored

Lets do a driveby......



.....TROLL!!!!
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
Chief said:
"The same issue that occurred in the Trayvon Martin incident. "

Not even close to the same issue. Zimmerman was defending himself, said the neighbor who witnessed the fight, and the jury agreed. This was just total baloney.





I thought Ben Stein had a great blurb on this tragedy: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/08/21/the-oklahoma-story

His take on it:
"Ben Stein's Diary


By Ben Stein on 8.21.13 @ 6:16AM

No, Piers, it’s not about guns.

Tuesday
So, this will be very short. Not at all sweet.

A couple of days ago, a white college baseball star from Australia, Christopher Lane, was running for exercise along a rural road in Oklahoma, my wife’s home state. He was attending college there. As he passed by three black teenagers, they decided it would be fun to kill him. They drove up behind him, shot him three times and he was dead.

They apparently laughed about it and one of them posted an online comment about their exploit — shooting an unarmed man in the back and killing him — and how cool that was.

They were quickly arrested and two are now charged with murder, the third as an accessory to murder. They will be tried as adults but because their ages are 16, 17, and 18, they cannot get the death penalty in Oklahoma.

My Internet in box is burning up with furious e-mails about this horrible crime. It’s all over the cable news. I just saw Piers Morgan, the world’s most predictable person, interview several people about the murder.

The comments by Piers Morgan and his guests are — again, predictably — about how this is a story about too many guns in the USA. But, of course, as everyone who is not in the MSM knows, this is not about guns. It’s about race. It’s about the appalling level of gun violence perpetrated by black young men. The people who make the U.S. homicide rate the worst in the world are not hunters and target shooters in Idaho or Minnesota. They are totally confused, absolutely immoral black kids who have grown up with the complete absence of a sense of right and wrong.

This is a part of the breakdown of the black youth in America. It has zero to do with the Second Amendment. It is pitiful that the MSM is so cowardly that they refuse to tell the truth about gun death in the U.S.: it is a problem of race, overwhelmingly. No one dare say it, but it’s true.

Now, will Mr. Obama get on TV and say that Chris Lane could have been his son or anyone’s son, that the real race problem in this country is not racism against blacks, but an astounding epidemic of violence among blacks, especially black youth? Will the media superstars start talking about the sickening worship of violence in the rap culture? Will anyone ever tell the truth again? Or is the fear of even a hint of an accusation of racism going to make us keep our blinders on?

There are virtually no murders of blacks by whites (not none — just very few). There are thousands of murders of blacks by blacks each year, far more in one year than the Ku Klux Klan ever did. Will anyone ever tell the truth again? Yes, Pat Buchanan will. But anyone else?

And can a society which lies to itself about its most basic problems survive? This is a crisis. Absent parents. The gang control of thought. The scourge of drugs. These have created a catastrophe for the black community. That is an immense part of the youth of this nation. Occasionally the flood jumps its bounds, goes over the river banks, and kills a white person — and then it’s new — but we blame it on guns. Our media and our leaders just cannot tell the truth.

We really are doomed in so many ways it’s blood curdling. I think I’ll just stay here in North Idaho.
"


A lot of folks are saying that "these guys could be the Presidents sons". Point worth noting.

climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
Cragman kinda nails it.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Aug 21, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
The real outrage is that no one can mention race or how to approach changing the BS in our schools, the culture and the society that causes people to think like those kids. There's plenty more just like them.
John M

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:04pm PT
I agree that Al Sharpton is not color blind and has a bias. But to say that liberals should be outraged over this obvious case of race hatred by comparing it to the outrage over the case in florida ignores too much. Did some black leadership try to make the trevon martin case about race? yes. But not everyone who was outraged was outraged because of race. I was outraged because of what the law allows to happen, black white or green.

I am always outraged over race hatred. But that doesn't mean I should join some protest every time it happens. The case of trevon martin, no matter who tried to make it about race, was not about race. Obama did do a disservice to our country by trying to make it about race. What it was about was a poorly written law.

What I object to is your overgeneralization of liberals.

Edited some comments.. don't need to play that game of snide comments..
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
WHAT IS THERE TO PROTEST?

That the white boy who was driving is just being charged with being an accessory, while the other black kid who was just riding in the car is being charged with murder.

How's that?
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:12pm PT
^^^^^yep
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
well I think the thread needs boobs..


dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:49pm PT
I'd heard about it. What's to protest? So far it seems like the wheels of justice are turning appropriately.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:51pm PT
Isn't one of the perps a white guy?

Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
I'd heard about it. What's to protest? So far it seems like the wheels of justice are turning appropriately.

Yeah, of the three the white boy will not get the death penalty. Why's that?
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:55pm PT
Nope. Just think this nation has shetcanned every moral marble it once had.

You Squishy are a prime example of that. Shall I go into depth/detail?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:07pm PT
I dunno Gary. Im going to
wait until the facts emerge.
John M

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:12pm PT
warning warning.. pure mental speculation ahead..


It sort of sounds like the white kid is talking to the prosecutor. I wonder if that is why he is getting a lesser charge. From some of the comments in the news stories it sounds like the other two kids are clamming up. First to talk gets the best deal.

I have no idea if this is true. Just speculation on my part. Don't quote me as saying that it is fact.
Gary

Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:17pm PT
I dunno Gary. Im going to
wait until the facts emerge.

Here ya go:
Hicks charged Chancey Allen Luna, 16, and James Francis Edwards Jr., 15, of Duncan, with first-degree murder. Under Oklahoma law they will be tried as adults. Michael Dewayne Jones, 17, of Duncan, was charged with using a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and with accessory to first-degree murder after the fact. He is considered a youthful offender but will be tried in adult court.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-naw-wn-thrillkill-20130821,0,1232644.story

No death penalties, though, for any of them.
John M

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
I think dirtbag was saying that he was waiting to form an opinion as to why.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:28pm PT
Bingo John!
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:40pm PT
SO Squishy, you gonna head out and do the boobs in the pic like.... never mind

Hell why not, those are some nice tits... You jelly?

You really have no idea what you are talking about chef, but that's cool, I doubt setting you straight would have any effect.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Aug 22, 2013 - 11:54am PT
Seems like a racial motive has now been established in this one, but we'll have to see if more facts emerge.
Have Holder and Obama weighed in yet?

From http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/index.html
And three days before what police call the indiscriminate shooting, the suspect, 15-year-old James Edwards Jr., tweeted, "With my ns when it's time to start taken life's."
Back in April, he tweeted, "90% of white ppl (people) are nasty. #HATE THEM

Guess the white punk co-defendant was one of the "non-nasty" 10% of whites who may have deserved to live, to Mr. Edwards' mind.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 22, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Must be nice, having to go halfway across the country to find a murder to discuss.

In San Bernardino, people talk about the murder across the street.

I remember visiting my uncle in Fontana for Christmas one year. There was a murder at the end of his ( short ) street early that morning. Four houses down. All the while we were enjoying a fine meal and each other's company, someone was laying in the street under a yellow tarp.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 22, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
Setting President? I prefer pointers and spaniels, but those Irish setters are a fine looking animal, pretty smart, but not POTUS material.

Anyhow,WTF is a "pouring outcry"? Is that 10th grade dropout-c#m-deckswabber speak?
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
looks like the kid in the middle could have been a younger obama...
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Aug 22, 2013 - 02:02pm PT
Senseless acts of violence happen all the time. A common gang initiation in LA is to find a random person and rape and or kill them. This isnt any different.

... but yeah, its Obama's fault. Lol!
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
no. but i believe the prez should be fair and consistent, dont you?

edit:
not surprising the joke is lost on you.
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Aug 22, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
Senseless acts of violence happen all the time. A common gang initiation in LA is to find a random person and rape and or kill them. This isnt any different.

... but yeah, its Obama's fault. Lol!

It's not Obama's fault, but what's behind his and Holder's obsession with the Trayvon - Zimmerman case? Trayvon would have looked like his son, or him? How, except they're all (sorta) black? And so what? He uses the power of the presidency when (he thinks) there's a crime victim who looks like him, and everyone else is sh#t outta luck?

The Zimm case had a lot of ambiguity, no clear racial element at all--not even clear that any crime was committed.
But nary a peep on what seems to be an insane, racially motivated execution?

Holder said something like "we're a nation of cowards"--only obvious cowardice I see is from him and his boss.

Sorry I don't have a better sense of humor to make a big joke out of this--the "that could have been Obama's son" for every black criminal is OK, but it's played out to me.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 02:46pm PT
It's not Obama's fault, but what's behind his and Holder's obsession with the Trayvon - Zimmerman case? Trayvon would have looked like his son, or him? How, except they're all (sorta) black? And so what? He uses the power of the presidency when (he thinks) there's a crime victim who looks like him, and everyone else is sh#t outta luck?

The Zimm case had a lot of ambiguity, no clear racial element at all--not even clear that any crime was committed.
But nary a peep on what seems to be an insane, racially motivated execution?

Holder said something like "we're a nation of cowards"--only obvious cowardice I see is from him and his boss.

Sorry I don't have a better sense of humor to make a big joke out of this--the "that could have been Obama's son" for every black criminal is OK, but it's played out to me.

read this kos.

none of these crimes have been about obama....but he made it about himself. now, when we clearly have a case of black racism and totally senseless death where is the prez? he found himself into the TM mess thats where the fair part comes in.
miwuksurfer

Social climber
Mi-Wuk
Aug 22, 2013 - 03:11pm PT
I don't see anybody being outraged by the 89 people that die on roadways in the US each DAY.
Or the 600,000 people that died from heart disease last year.

(Sent via iphone while driving up to McDonalds drive-through)
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 22, 2013 - 03:19pm PT
I don't see anybody being outraged by the 89 people that die on roadways in the US each DAY.
Or the 600,000 people that died from heart disease last year.

That Al Sharpton guy has got to get busy, that is a lot of outrage to be generating!
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Aug 22, 2013 - 03:28pm PT
I am outraged that you are not outraged by my pouring of outcry of raging out. DurrrrrrrP.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 04:11pm PT
(Sent via iphone while driving up to McDonalds drive-through)

i hope you were really risky and supersized it.
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
A new idiocy low for are resident morons ..

dude, its OUR.

if you're going to accuse some dudes of being morons at least check your word useage.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Freaking grammar nazis. Sheesh, give it a rest.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Freaking grammar nazis. Sheesh, give it a rest.

They're just trying to do the job that the school system failed to do in the first place. How would anyone know that they're wrong if no one pointed it out to them?
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:42pm PT
I would argue that our language is a failure, not the people learning it...
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:45pm PT
I don't know. Bad grammar irritates me, but I'm not that guy who constantly points out grammatical errors.

Just let it go, we all know what the poster is saying, so why be a dick?

Grammatical snobbery.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Aug 22, 2013 - 05:59pm PT
I live in Oklahoma, and it filled the first three pages of the OKC paper today. It is all anyone is talking about. We just don't have gangsta type shootings here, and Oklahoma isn't a very racist state. We became a state in 1907, long after the Civil War. This isn't Mississippi.

I know that it is big news in Australia.

Why are you bringing this up, The Chief? You are without a doubt the most unpleasant person on this entire forum.

We aren't as bad as Texas when it comes to executing people, but we are close. I think the age will prevent them from getting death.

You might not hear of it in California, but it has been non-stop news here.

The guy played baseball for the college that my dad taught at, in the town where I grew up. The murder took place in another town about an hour away. He was seeing his girlfriend and was running.

Blame the parents. There is no excuse other than to blame the parents when kids of this age murder somebody for no reason. I say this as a parent.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
Why are there so many wingnut, has-been climbers?
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:20pm PT
Yup, teenage kids that age have no idea what they are doing. They did not know it was wrong, it's not their fault. They were forced into a gang by the oppressive white man keeping all those minorities in the hood. At what age would you say you can hold a human being responsible for making his/her own choices?
patrick compton

Trad climber
van
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
When will this pointless thread end?
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:24pm PT
Speaking of grammar nazi's:

"It's time to be taken life's"
What the f*#k does that even mean?

There's probably a collective IQ of 150 among the 3 of them, or dem.
dirt claud

Social climber
san diego,ca
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 06:37pm PT
When will this pointless thread end?

When the chef deletes it to save face? Little chef Bonaparte ...
Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Aug 22, 2013 - 07:22pm PT
damn,

you guys cant take a joke. rileys usual grammar consists of #$$####**&&####!!!!%@!&^!!!!
so clearly he is improving!
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 22, 2013 - 07:52pm PT
I wonder how much is poor education vs voice recognition software.

(or is that the same thing?)
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 22, 2013 - 08:07pm PT
good work wingnuts!
sandstone conglomerate

climber
sharon conglomerate central
Aug 22, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
One of those sack-o-shits has a pregnant girlfriend...Jesus wept.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Aug 22, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
Why does it surprise anyone that the same people who are mean enough to kill for no good reason are also racist? They're probably litterbugs, too.
squishy

Mountain climber
Aug 22, 2013 - 09:59pm PT
Why is this sh#t even in the news, this sh#t happens everyday somewhere, and why is it even a thread, let it die, stop bumping it..
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 22, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
Why is this sh#t even in the news, this sh#t happens everyday somewhere, and why is it even a thread, let it die, stop bumping it..

 Its called a troll for a reason….
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