contractors how do you deal with non-paying clients?

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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jul 15, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
use the judge to help you out is the best answer.
contractor's either suck or work.
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2013 - 04:25am PT
i love these confrontations:

a white pasty slob of a man with no truth in his heart
vs.
an accomplished, determined and morally inclined i.

here we go again.

a handshake secured my services with a promise for payment.

i remove a large, dead and hazardous tree
that stands in close proximity to my clients
cabin and power grid source.

4 weeks pass, no contact from said client,
and promised funds are not rendered.

a slew of kind phone calls from me,
inquiring of the missing payment,
with a benefit of doubt granted.

then a series of pleads,

"hey im not of bottomless pockets,
i've two children to support
and cash flow for a small business owner
is tough, at best."

etc. no response.
all phone messages were left
on the client's cell phone,
thru which he obviously runs his own business
(based on the voice mail)
so i am fairly certain that he
is receiving my contacts.

finally i extend the call
announcing that we'll be attending small
claims court, and thus he will
be paying me the 300 dollars,
plus the litigation fees,

and further more, sir,
my hard-earned position of respect
with the strawberry community is
a sound platform from which i will
faithfully report to all of your's and my
neighbors your moral shortcomings.

you see, im norwegian,
and i come from a long line
of battles, each one of which
echoes within my genetics.

we all know that nowadays,
battles are mostly extinct.

so im somewhat elated
when a mock confrontation
presents itself, to which
i rise and meet
with the same commitment
and determination that
my viking ancestors
met theirs.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
Oct 2, 2013 - 07:40am PT
Maybe the slouch thinks you work for habitat for humanity..Tell him you ain't no Jimmy Carter and you don't work for peanuts then threaten to steal the satellite Dish off the fallen tree...RJ
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 2, 2013 - 07:47am PT
yea sid,
then i'll mount the unit
to my helmet
and walk around touting
the internet on my lid
then folks can
randomly plug into me
their usb coors
for a minimal fee.
Patrick Sawyer

climber
Originally California now Ireland
Oct 2, 2013 - 11:11am PT
I have no advice Norgie, but that Stewart fellow seems like a ... pr...
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Oct 2, 2013 - 11:13am PT
Did you knott get half the money up front this time?
10b4me

Ice climber
Soon 2B Flagstaff
Oct 2, 2013 - 11:21am PT
You need to get these deals down on paper.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 2, 2013 - 11:23am PT
I thought we talked about this before. You had an impression upon meeting the slouch, you should have trusted that impression and asked for your fee upfront. No better way to learn than getting burned a few times. Some jobs are better left undone.
FrankZappa

Trad climber
Hankster's crew
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
Whoa....so now this is becoming a pattern?

Bullies pick fights they know they can win, and people take advantage of others when they know they can get away with it.

You need to put something more into your business so it looks like it is more legitimate, and have folks sign a contract, put down a percentage down-payment, and in the contract state that if the bill is not payed on time interest will accrue. Puts the heat on them and makes it look like your are accustomed to dealing with potential non-payment; unfortunately a handshake doesn't cut it these days.

You gotta get over your poor-black-child (sob sob) background and deal with that or this will continue.

And learn when to walk away.

Diplomacy is obviously the best course of action. Don't change the price; makes it look like what you did wasn't worth the fee. Make it look like you did them a favor at a good price and instead give them the opportunity to pay it off monthly.

And when all else fails find a way to get even....that's not too hard to do but right now you are the loser and when you get even you have two losers. Instead try hardest for the winner scenario.
happiegrrrl

Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
Oct 2, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
When it happened the first time, Norwegian, you ought to have figured out systems to put into place to reduce the chances of it happening again. You know that saying "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."?

Also, it sounds like you enjoy the idea of bad-mouthing them. Here's the thing: They don't care. It's a small world, but not THAT small. In any case, they can and probably would make up some song and dance turning the tables that it is actually you who is wrong....

I think your family would prefer you get paid for your services rather than being compensated with the ability to waggle a finger at someone who got the better of you in business.

Good luck.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Oct 2, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
When I did tree work we got paid upon completion. You should be able to accept credit cards-- easy with a smart phone.

For the non-payers it's small claims court or a lien. Not rocket science.

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