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Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Jul 9, 2013 - 12:37pm PT
Tomorrow the wind will wreak havoc and some Belgian team will produce the winner. Note that Cavendish's team is Belgian, so I'm kind of hedging my bets here. I'm not saying that I'll be particularly happy with him winning.

Yes, but I saw footage of Cav out sprinting a pair of rice rockets on the Isle of Man. He must be good and fast.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Jul 9, 2013 - 12:46pm PT
My guess is Cavendish will be rewarded with last place for his efforts today. But he won't care because to him, finishing third is no different than finishing D F last.
shady

Trad climber
hasbeen
Jul 9, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
Your truth rings clear.
And he'd still be able to race.
That's why they should DQ the wanker before he endangers anymore riders.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 9, 2013 - 11:12pm PT
Oh.... that was an awesome sprint!
Kittel, the underdog of the top 4 sprinters was first to score his second win. I was bummed for Sagan, he was boxed in and didn't really have a chance, but that is the luck of the draw.

Bravo Marcel!


That bump from Cav causing the ugly crash wasn't too egregious....but, indeed, why didn't he sprint straight? Dawg! Careless primadonna.
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Jul 9, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
Cav should have been relegated to last place for that bump
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Jul 9, 2013 - 11:45pm PT
Cavendish is not what the sport is all about . . . he is a sprinting specialist and quite good at that discipline, despite his petulance. He is useless in the big scheme of The Tour . . . merely a sideshow to the real riders. It is unfortunate that there is so much hype surrounding the pure sprint, but it is a form of cycling and it is potentially dangerous, so we must accept what is.
Dolomite

climber
Anchorage
Jul 9, 2013 - 11:48pm PT
If Phil and Paul didn't have such a huge bromance going with Cav, sprinting might not be such a big deal!
shady

Trad climber
hasbeen
Jul 10, 2013 - 12:47am PT
I dedicated my first pint of the evening to Phil and Paul. I can't imagine how hard it must be to keep the enthusiastic dialogue going...and going...and going, while broadcasting for a stage so broad and flat it could only be described as oceanic.

Odd, as I watched the prime time broadcast it seemed as if they had edited in more mention of Argos/Shimano and Kittel, where this mornings version they were pumping the "Big Three" sprinters teams. None-the-less, I'm really stoked for Kittel and Argos/Shimano on their second stage win.

After seeing this evenings edition, and thinking back to his earlier aborted sprint, where he swooped another A/S team member, I'm more convinced then ever about the guilt of Cavend#@&%e. I've tried my best to give him the benefit of the doubt the last few years because he is a gifted sprinter, and thinking he'd mature. I'm done with that.

Rant over, thanks for letting me vent.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 12:49am PT
Pretty clear that Cav caused the crash. Not sure why Phil and Paul don't man up and call him out.
shady

Trad climber
hasbeen
Jul 10, 2013 - 01:02am PT
A few years back Paul did just that after a near collision, and got himself in hot water.
Highroad, quietly, went after him and Versus for not following the journalistic code of neutrality.
They've both pulled back from expressing their opinions.

EDIT:
Dolomite, with all due respect, sprinting is a big deal. That's why it's a dicipline they award a jersey to the best one. Just like KOM and GC, it wouldn't be bike racing without it.
Darwin

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jul 10, 2013 - 01:24am PT
I would guess Phil and Paul's comments were moderated by the nationalities of their audience. Cavendish has bugged me for a while now, but IMHO the referee call on his actions in today's sprint could have gone either way. If he had won, I'm pretty certain he would have been disqualified.


fugit: as I typed that I felt he should have been relegated to last regardless of winning or not. I'm just glad that Veelers wasn't hurt and that justice seemed to have been done with Argos's Kittle winning.

Dar

w.r.t to my prediction: ok, the winds didn't seem to play a big a role - but Argos-Shimano is a Dutch team and therefore almost Belgian, kind of like Canadian is almost US of American.

; - ) ** still will not save me, I know.
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jul 10, 2013 - 10:25am PT
EEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!



http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cavendish-doused-with-urine-in-tour-de-france-time-trial
Dolomite

climber
Anchorage
Jul 10, 2013 - 01:25pm PT
I do love Phil and Paul and actually they weren't too defensive about Cav. In fact they seemed a little surprised he wasn't penalized. I don't like him much, but I wouldn't throw piss on the guy! Sheesh, you'd think he was trying to build a climbers' hostel in Eldo!

Gunkie

Trad climber
East Coast US
Jul 10, 2013 - 05:07pm PT

From the bleacherreport...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1699369-tour-de-france-2013-mark-cavendish-hit-with-urine-by-fan-during-stage-11?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t3

...a fan took things to a new extreme, throwing urine on cyclist Mark Cavendish...

The incident occurred during Wednesday's Stage 11 time trial, which stretched from Avranches to Mont-Saint-Michel. The motivations behind the fan's actions are still unclear, but Sky Sports speculates that it may stem from Cavendish's involvement in a crash that took out Tom Veelers during Stage 10 on Tuesday.

Despite the belief by many that Cavendish was to blame for the wreck, he was exonerated from any wrongdoing by race officials, according to William Fotheringham of The Guardian.
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
There is really no excuse for slinging pee, but overhead shot showed pretty clearly that Cav swerved in and hit Veelers handlebar. Not intentional, but but a pretty aggressive move that poor Tom never saw coming.

I guess rubbin' is racin'
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 10, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
Yes, may I retract my comment about Cav's move being "not too egregious?"

Upon further reflection I must say "way too effing egregious." It was the reflects of someone that is WAY Too internally programmed to win. You don't have to take out every competitor. DUDE, just sprint.

May the judges be shamed.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 10, 2013 - 08:17pm PT
Good time trial.

I was so glad that Tony Martin held on for the win. After waiting in the hot seat for 3.5 hours, how nice it was.........and Andrew T. held on for 11 th (?) place.....sweet... ahead of Contador and other faves.
dee ee

Mountain climber
citizen of planet Earth
Jul 10, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
Shady......"Cavend#@&%e."
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Jul 10, 2013 - 11:22pm PT
When I saw the replay my reaction was " Wow, he took that guy out!" All of the announcers (Bob Roll etc) all felt it was incidental. I was surprised by that.
shady

Trad climber
hasbeen
Jul 11, 2013 - 02:35am PT
Good to see Martin overcome his crash and nab this victory. Well done Tony!

Aaaaaaahhhh, a golden shower for Cavend#@&%e. He may not have liked it........but I found it quite refreshing.
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