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Hawkeye

climber
State of Mine
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:23pm PT
Where the fuk is Hedge today.

We're going to flush him down the toilet today for his bullsh!t.

he is spinning in the drain, along with a turd.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jul 12, 2013 - 12:27pm PT
Snowden seems to be able to attract attractive women, first the ballerina and now leaker and human rights types:

Credit: ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Not supermodels but pretty cute for press conferences in a Russian airport.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jul 12, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
Don, you're right (of course). The Chevron inquiry had nothing to do with the NSA--they subpoenaed the records from MSFT. No FICA court involvement...

My bad. It just came up at a time when the NSA is in the papers for subpoenaing MSFT for such records, and my numb brain made the incorrect connection.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Colombia, South America
Jul 12, 2013 - 03:00pm PT
Hey no problem k-man, you just happened to mention a lawyer scandal I'm interested in. Here's a more detailed description of the Chevron case.
As I said human rights law is my passion and my case against Chiquita is similar in some ways ... but no fraud involved and no bribery paid. The fact that news reporters are relating this to the Snowden case kind of pisses me off.

http://www.americanlawyer.com/digestTAL.jsp?id=1202599826041

jghedge

climber
Jul 12, 2013 - 09:04pm PT
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 12, 2013 - 09:12pm PT
given is ruled by capitalist we gave billions to in order to oppresses the masses we had promised to help the second they over threw theyre dominating government...

the idea america doesnt like russia is a joke

but youd have to be under 50 or actually graduated from public school to realize
jghedge

climber
Jul 12, 2013 - 09:28pm PT


Merely previewing part of the soundtrack for the movie

Fincher's already on it, I hear
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jul 12, 2013 - 09:31pm PT
No Ordinary Day in Moscow
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/07/12/no-ordinary-day-moscow

Russia, Others Should Treat Snowden’s Asylum Claim Fairly | Human Rights Watch
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/07/12/russia-others-should-treat-snowden-s-asylum-claim-fairly

Edward Snowden meets with representatives of human rights groups and R...
Edward Snowden meets with representatives of human rights groups and Russian officials at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport on July 12, 2013.
Credit: © 2013 Tanya Lokshina/Human Rights Watch
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 04:00am PT
A judge has ruled the Obama administration cannot cite the ‘state secrets’ privilege to halt a lawsuit against NSA surveillance brought by the Electronic Frontier Foundation years before Edward Snowden and his leaks surfaced. The Jewel vs. National Security Agency suit was was filed in 2008 by the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and AT&T customers who claimed Bush officials had conducted an “illegal and unconstitutional program of dragnet communications surveillance.” In what privacy advocates hailed as a "huge victory," the judge ordered the NSA to provide more data on how the “recent disclosure of the government’s continuing surveillance activities” could impact national security.
....


http://www.eff.org/press/releases/federal-judge-allows-effs-nsa-mass-spying-case-proceed

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130708/14275123739/court-rejects-state-secrets-excuse-why-feds-want-out-lawsuit-over-nsa-warrantless-wiretapping.shtml

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/9/4507088/no-more-secrets-an-important-case-against-nsa-spying-takes-a-big-step

http://rt.com/usa/state-secrets-nsa-lawsuit-continue-807/

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2013/07/11-1
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 04:22am PT
Credit: rSin
more from the boy who refuses to be president...

The White House spiraled into panic mode late Friday after Edward Snowden's earlier appearance in Russia, with President Obama moving forward with plans to personally call Vladimir Putin to urge the Russian president to deny Snowden asylum.




Panicked Obama Dials Putin After Snowden Appearance

White House slams whistleblower's meeting with human rights groups as "propaganda platform" while unloading propaganda blitz against Snowden

 Sarah Lazare, staff writer



Published on Friday, July 12, 2013 by Common Dream
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/07/12-5[photoid=310692]
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Jul 13, 2013 - 10:56am PT
Richard Stallman &#40;left&#41;, Edward Snowden &#40;center&#41;, Juli...
Richard Stallman (left), Edward Snowden (center), Julian Assange (right). "YES WE CAN"
Credit: Wikileaks
MikeL

climber
SANTA CLARA, CA
Jul 13, 2013 - 11:49am PT
Some of those fuks (I was going to type folks) are running and operating the U.S. secret services. They torture people for a living. Those people are EVIL and I don't give a goddamned they are on 'our side.'

I think this is where the problems start to come out. I don't worry so very much about the egocentric maniac who is evil and knows it. What I'm concerned most about are the people who "know" the righteousness of their cause. Those people are the people who will do anything.

I think that might describe many folks here.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jul 13, 2013 - 11:57am PT
What I'm concerned most about are the people who "know" the righteousness of their cause. Those people are the people who will do anything.

I think that might describe many folks here.


Gosh Mike, more concerned about a bunch of climbers spouting their opinions on this informal forum than you are about folks who lie and torture for a living? I find that pretty interesting, and fairly revealing.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jul 13, 2013 - 12:59pm PT

Mercosur Countries Recall European Ambassadors Over Morales Plane Blockade

Block announces it will be "inflexible" in the face of the aggression faced by Morales


The sh!t is starting to fly...
jghedge

climber
Jul 13, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
^^^ But no recalls of ambassadors from the US...hahahaha

You gotta admit that's pretty funny.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
put it this way then,


after the mandate he was afford after he failed on the job more spectacularly than roosevlt managed to

let not forget that the top down draconian policies the bush administration forced on EVER department in existance he could

forcing the exedus of half of langley's professional workforce during the W years

he gutted the service and lined up home schooled zombies to fill all the jobs

children whos parents taught em what yes sir meant before they could talk



the REAL story
which snowden's researchers havnt gotten around to yet

is the thousands of other people with access to this same data, who we know have in the dozens sold access to it privately WHILE the FBI AND THE NSA LOOK THE OTHER WAY
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Jul 13, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
But no recalls of ambassadors from the US...

Why do you think that is, when the Mercosur Countries believe it was the US who requested that the EU states block Morales' flight?

I have an idea, and it dovetails with why the EU states followed the [supposed] US request to block the flight.

Why does the EU bow to the US, when they are also pissed at the Snowden revelations?
jghedge

climber
Jul 13, 2013 - 06:02pm PT

"Why does the EU bow to the US, when they are also pissed at the Snowden revelations?"


Because they're doing it too (NSA-style surveillance), or at least France and Germany are, and Spain/Portugal seem like they could benefit from it themselves, with the arson Spain has been having, and the attacks Spain had at the Atocha 9 years ago

The SA countries know that putting up a brave ideological front to the US, without actually doing anything that would affect themselves materially, will immunize them from terrorist attacks - oh well, not everyone has the courage of their convictions, I guess.
rSin

Trad climber
calif
Jul 13, 2013 - 07:50pm PT
its more a testiment to them being on our dole
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 14, 2013 - 07:11pm PT
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/12/us_backs_off_propaganda_ban_spreads_government_made_news_to_americans

Not that the networks weren't enough!
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