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Timid TopRope

Social climber
'used to be Paradise, CA
May 3, 2013 - 01:03am PT
Bluey
lillabiene is not passing judgement. She is offering up a very personal account from her family and observations of friends involved in CPS.
Why do you always set yourself up on the premise of bluering vs everyone else?.....martyrdom syndrome?

I also usually do not click links from yahoo-based citations. Ain't doin' it!

When it rolls off the presses from a journalistic source I'll have a look. In the meantime keep banging your head against the wall with your perceived indignation.

LilaBiene

Trad climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:03am PT
People like you

Which "people" do you mean, precisely?

And on passing judgment...it was you, was it not, that wrote that the parents did not follow the rules?
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
May 3, 2013 - 01:06am PT
I'm a "lib." I read about this in the morning and googled up other stories on it. It's International news and there are stories in the mainstream media.

I think this is outrageous. There should be an investigation and if the stories are true, people should be fired.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:11am PT
I also usually do not click links from yahoo-based citations. Ain't doin' it!

When it rolls off the presses from a journalistic source I'll have a look. In the meantime keep banging your head against the wall with your perceived indignation.

So someone you know, like me, and I like you too, and Nita. You will trust me to make a judgement call bAsed on the news? The news did side with the parents....
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
May 3, 2013 - 01:15am PT
Bluey, i watched the news feed, pretty sad. I personally feel like CPS and the cops should have Not taken the baby....That said, in no way is this a liberal vs conservative issue.. ....I hope the baby gets returned to the parents tomorrow... with an apology... and.......


Edit: Bluey, calm down...LilaB is good peeps....


bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:18am PT
Which "people" do you mean, precisely?

And on passing judgment...it was you, was it not, that wrote that the parents did not follow the rules?


Exactly people like you! I know your type! YOU ARE THE ONE PASSING JUDGEMNT! I actually read the facts of the f*#king story and made a logical conclusion. YOU! made a knee-jerk reaction to the story. And that is typical for you and your kind.


You people damage our society with this bullsh#t. Same thing in Sacramento. Feel-good as#@&%es think they know best! Let parents watch over their kids, not the State!

F*#king commies!

EDIT
:Bluey, i watched the news feed, pretty sad. I personally feel like CPS and the cops should have Not taken the baby....That said, in no way is this a liberal vs conservative issue.. ....I hope the baby gets returned to the parents tomorrow... with an apology... and.......

Nita, It is kinda is political. State vs. personal property.

I know you hate politics, but I love kids, and family, as you do. I will fight this one for ya~ You can stay out, I'll fight it.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:34am PT
Nita, I will not calm down. But I really love you and your old Man. You are are people I would trust my child with. I love you guys.

I think what you fail to realize is that this sh#t will not stand, our welfare state, food-stamps, tax-the-rich, mentality.

The system in Calif is INEVIEVITABLY gonna crash. Ask smart dudes like JElezaian, Hartouni, or others.

We have hit a wall, or nearly hit it. Brace yourself. This stuff can't go on!

If nobody sounds the horn, everybody will swept away!

Won't happen in 10 years, but what happens when we run out of cash?

You and yours be comfy, and I'll raise the alarm bell when I see it coming!

I always give a shout-out to my ST bros. Be nice if someone came to our protest!

Cheers, Nita!
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:36am PT
Blue, The second story you linked says the baby was returned to the parents.

You have this story completely screwed up. The police are required by law to take the baby if CPS determines the baby is in danger. CPS got involved because the hospital said the child was in danger. That was a call made by a doctor. So CPS got involved which is again required by law and had the baby taken and then they investigated the legitimacy of whether the baby was in danger or not. Once it was determined that the child was safe, then it was returned. This is how the system is suppose to work. Sometimes a baby is taken mistakenly, but often its not a mistake, and CPS has to lean towards the safety of the child, rather then the parents rights.

This report is from 3 days ago saying the baby was returned. So what you saw was just sensationalism.

http://rt.com/usa/us-court-russia-child-594/
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:37am PT
the only f*#ks screaming 'commies' where f*#ks who hated the idea of truth justice and the american way being extending to all human beings...

what are you getting at... you retarded pieced of american exceptionalist 'we get to changed the rules as we goddamn well like' bullsh#t?


Yeah, yeah, commies were awesome...f*#k off and die~!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:38am PT
Blue, The second story you linked says the baby was returned to the parents.


For like 2 hours....
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:39am PT
Oh.. the the title of your first link is wrong. Police didn't take the child because the parents went to get a second opinion. They took the child because a doctor informed CPS that the child might be in danger and CPS determined that this might be true and they had the police step in.
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:42am PT
For like 2 hours....

Please show a story which says the child is not with the parents. I see no story that says its not.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:46am PT
Oh.. the the title of your first link is wrong. Police didn't take the child because the parents went to get a second opinion. They took the child because a doctor informed CPS that the child might be in danger and CPS determined that this might be true and they had the police step in.

How is my title, at all, incoherent? The Nazis still have the baby!

Do you f*#king people read before you post!
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:47am PT
Please show me a story that says the child is still with protective services. And not that first link. I can't find one story that says its not with the parents.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 01:52am PT
http://www.today.com/health/parents-police-removed-our-child-after-we-sought-second-medical-6C9708419

From earlier today...

EDIT:
I can't find one story that says its not with the parents.


And that's why I'll protest! You should too!
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 01:55am PT
, and his parents regained control of his medical treatment.

Which part of this don't you understand? From your link.

CPS did its job. The system worked.
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 02:02am PT
You ought to try thinking about what a tough Job CPS has. A doctor said the child was in danger. The system is set up to listen to doctors, but is also set up with oversight by a judge. What would you do if you were a child protective worker and a doctor told you a child was in danger? Would you futz around and wait to talk to the second doctor? What if the parents disappeared with the child? You do know that that happens don't you?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:03am PT
After what, John? Regained control of their baby after seizure?

Do you see the Fascism here? They took their kid!!!!

But then gave him back,,,that;s all good.
John M

climber
May 3, 2013 - 02:04am PT
The system worked.

Doctor calls CPS.. says child is in danger.

CPS determines after talking to doctor that the child might be in danger. They call police and the police do their jobs.

The parents protest and hire a lawyer. It goes before a judge and the judge determines that everything is okay, but is required to review the case after a certain amount of time has passed just to make certain that he/she didn't make a mistake. Thats to protect both the parent and the child.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:05am PT
JOhn, the 2nd doctor told the cops everything was cool, and CPS still attacked! Quit defending them. They are vampires!
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