Sacrameto Police Seize Child From Parents (OT)

but I am a man of conviction and logic, political correctness casted aside.

People like you

For like 2 hours....

, and his parents regained control of his medical treatment.

They may say you're unfit to have kids if you have guns around

EVERYONE is right - that's why we have opposing opinions.

It's sad how few people respect the intellect of those with whom they disagree.

I do not do sh#t or say sh#t to "get along", Greg. I do what I feel is right in my heart.

What people fail to realize on my side of the aisle, is that getting mad is not necessarily bad, or hateful IMO.

For no demonstrable reason!

This is non-partisan

Did you read the story, Sierra, and the progression of events? Or are you just knee-jerking for CPS?

She unlawfully leaves...

Interesting how much hate I get on this too. Should be a non-partisan issue...

After a physician deems the child/Mom safe, why aren't CPS obliged to get a f*#king warrant?

At least there is a kid to fight over...

It was clear the 2nd doc cleared them.

The irony of it all is that this is just a talk show bullshit topic designed to do one thing - enrich the host of that talk show by inciting ignorant and easily duped people into emotional reactions by stoking their fears of being held accountable.

In case you think I'm unduly infringing on your precious, righteous county, I'm being invited by the the event coordinator, and you may know him if you are a resident of the county. He ran for Gov and city council seats in your area.

But, I stand by the notion that removal of children from their natural family should always be the last and final option,

There is a difficult line between protecting children and protecting parents rights.

I wonder how many children have slipped through the cracks.

Who's the ingenius, he who judges after reading all of the facts of the story, or he who just makes judgements off one line of the story?

Ask yourself that...genius.

Endangering a child's life = CPS gets involved

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I think we agree on nearly everything, except possibly how the government machine of this system is broken.

Did you read all the FACTs? Or just what you wanted to read? Who is the idiot?

Ever think to ask yourself the same question? It's a tough question for any of us.


Why is it that you people can never answer a difficult question, and only bounce back the same question? Answer the question! You guys never want to answer, and then usually change the f*#king arguement.

A discussion is give/take. I refuse to bow to your bullsh#t.

Turning the question around is not an answer, an answer is.

Did you read all the FACTs? Or just what you wanted to read? Who is the idiot?

A second doctor, the cops, and CPS cleared them before another group pounced on them.

Apologies will be accepted if you're man enough, weschrist.

"Friday night posting while drunk thread."

you people

you people

It's an oversimplification to say that the process works simply because the child was not injured.

I do think that there may be room for improvement when it comes to CPS's actual execution.

Now that I saw the video, one obvious problem is that they sent the cops to the house, they took the kid and don't even tell the parents what is going on or who they can talk to to help move the process along.

It's like something out of Kafka.

Lot's of folks here saying CPS is underfunded. Then let's fund it.

But I'm still not going to some teabagger rant fest.

I've dated them and the conversational pleasantries of their work causes a problem trying to have a drink with your teeth curled.

Social workers are humans. A small % get it wrong, The others earn their meager pay because they actually and truly give a f*#k about the results of their work.

Social working as a profession, seems to age idealistic people much faster than their hope for human peace can defend.

Blue, your ignorance as to process is amazing.

The judge ruled that a CPS social worker will make regular house visits to check on the infant when he is returned home.

This particular story merits looking at to see what could have been done better...

And again, the second doc cleared them all as healthy before CPS attacked the family.

How does seizing the baby from it's loving parents make this better?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The second doc cleared them.

Kid is at Stanford and is pending surgery in 4-6 weeks. That was the original plan.

The next day her baby was seized FOR NO REASON!

John, shouldn't CPS err on the side of caution and the family?

So you're assuming that CPS knows better than parents and a physician?

Shouldn't it be up to the parents to decide which doctor to trust?

A parent can't decide for themselves which doctor to see? Why not?

A parent can't decide for themselves which doctor to see? Why not?

gomer

1. a stupid oaf, a social reject

2. a patient unwelcome in a hospital(supposedly standing for get out of my emergency room)

"That's the third time in a week that this gomer has come here."

I love it when idiots who know nothing about anything, yet believe the actions of CPS is a precursor to Obama taking our guns, argue with rational people who work in the field and deal with the situations in question daily. That's what makes stupidtaco so special.

Due to CPS, my daughters cannot ever see their mom

My issue is not with CPS, or with anyone's friend or relative who works for them.

My issue is with lack of due process and unchecked authority.

You and Wes seem to be framing this as an "all or nothing, our team or their team" debate. It isn't. This has nothing to do with guns, or immigration, or any other issue.

This is what we are protesting. When a government agency can order police to raid a citizen’s home, without a warrant, and to seize their child against the wishes of medical professionals, is a day that we have entered into tyranny. More is sure to come with state-run ObamaCare. Next it will be for your guns. As Dollard said, “if they can do this to these parents, imagine what they will do to us in the future.”

Also, in relation to the broader, over-arching problem of increasing 4th Amendment violations by law enforcement agencies, we are going to begin investigating “brainwashing” of police officers by the Federal Government (via seminars, classes, videos and literature) in terms of casting these officers’ fellow citizens as domestic terror and other types of threats, when in fact these officers’ fellow citizens’ only crime is being Republican and/or legally armed and/or military. It is precisely this ‘war on the right wing extremists’ mentality that is being inculcated into police officers’ minds by the Federal and some state and local governments that is most-often responsible for the type of behavior you see on the part of the Sacramento Police Department in this incident.